诡秘外国网友评论节选意译 - 【1117-1122】【含本章说】
【1117章(红祭司-171章)最强组织】——本章说
tpk
Rose Redemption
救赎蔷薇
【恍惚间,戴里克看见面前多了道身影,他是一个俊美,阳光,充满朝气的男子,罩着纯白的长袍,有一头金色的短发。】
aryss
the blazing sun
永恒烈阳
【那身影七八米高,穿着银色的全身盔甲,眼睛位置是一团似晨曦如黄昏的光芒。】
aryss
gos of dawn badheil
晨曦之神巴德海尔
(回复楼上)UuuhhhBhh
warrior God?
战士之神?
(回复楼上)aryss
the god of combat
是战斗之神
【她变成了那名男子,走到了暗红长桌最上首。】
Anna_94
same chair as The World
和世界一样的座位
(回复楼上)lindatan90
From description below, it seems like the two leaders actually sat side by side at the same end of the table. So it's actually different from The World.
根据下面的描述,看起来桌子末端是两个领袖并排坐着的。所以这其实和世界的位置不太一样。
Adicawida
so, Sasrir is TC? or at least they have similar pathway...
所以,萨斯利尔就是真造?或者至少他们俩的途径相似……
【“他们”在暗红长桌两侧分别找了位置坐下后,最上首空余的那把高背椅上,虚空变深了一点,勾勒出了仿佛笼罩着迷雾的女性身影。】
Strider1337
Is that you Evernight?
是你吗黑夜?
TomoyaNagase
I also feel like this is the Evernight Godess.
我也感觉这是黑夜女神。
Blazss
Hehe. Finally!
呵呵。终于!
Shtriya
was she wvernight ? As she is in many things already .
她是黑夜吗?她已经在很多事情里都出现过了。
sugber
Daaaamn..
妈妈妈妈耶……
【“……这也是祂的想法……”】
PonX
So looks like this is also what ASG wanted.
所以看来这也是远太想要的结果咯。
(回复楼上)SRandom
'He' probably refers to the first creator who created the world and split into the 22 sequences. The ASG was going against the basic order of the universe (i.e. divergence) by forcefully taking the authorities of many other ancient
“祂”指的可能是创造了这个世界并分裂出22条途径的第一个造物主。远太的做法违背了这个宇宙的基本定律(比如分离),因为他强行从许多其他的古神手中夺走了权柄
(回复楼上)Markarev
Not entirely correct. But saying more would be a (huge?) spoiler.. ;)
不全对。但再说下去就是(大型)剧透现场了……;)
(回复楼上)SRandom
Stop correcting people based on spoilers...What's the fun about the discussing the story then?
拜托停止靠剧透的内容来纠正别人的推断的做法吧…那讨论故事情节的乐趣到底在哪呢?
(回复楼上)Nox_Invictus_
I agree, whats the fun of theories if someone in ahead in the store confirms or denys everything.
同意,如果有人读的进度比其他人都快,然后天天跑回来说别人的推论对不对,这样还有什么意思呢
【“……死亡和鲜血将不可避免,我们以‘救赎蔷薇’为名……”】
Ozwin
Oohhhh!
噢噢噢噢!
Anna_94
In the Name of God
In the Name of God
In the Name of God we go to heaven
以神之名
以神之名
以神之名,我们将进入天堂
【这是乐队Powerwolf的一首歌——In the name of god的歌词】
(回复楼上)Anna_94
Mater sin - the name of God
Where nights in war and fire
Raise your sword for holy blood
We burn them on the pyre
殉道者们,以上帝之名
在这充斥战火的夜晚
为圣血举起手中的剑
将他们尽数焚毁火葬
(回复楼上)Anna_94
To defend, to commend to the holy war
Mater Maria
To the end we will stand, we are fighting for
Deus in regnium!
【……这段防和谐词还是不译了,各位知道Mater Maria是拉丁文写法的圣母玛利亚,Deus in regnium是拉丁文的“在神的国度”就行】
(回复楼上)Nox_Invictus_
is this an reference? I'm not familiar. where does this come from?
这是引用哪里的东西吗?不记得有看到过这些内容。都出自哪里呀?
(回复楼上)Anna_94
song fron PowerWolf
PowerWolf的一首歌
【“之前的神殿废墟里,有祂遗留的壁画,神战遗迹某处,也有祂遗留的壁画……‘巨人王庭’内,这类似的壁画,类似的力量,说不是祂,我都有点不相信……这位天使之王究竟有多喜欢壁画,走到哪里画到哪里……”克莱恩忍不住在心里吐槽了乌洛琉斯一句。】
faimherb
Ouroboros: art is eternal, as am I
乌洛琉斯:艺术是永恒的,正如我的存在一般
(回复楼上)Dex2
😂😂😂
【他第二个注意到的身影坐在“命运天使”乌洛琉斯的身旁,穿着泼了鲜血般的黑色盔甲,有一头明亮如同火烧的红发,年轻而英俊。】
aryss
so this is Medici
所以这就是梅迪奇了
(回复楼上)Polymyth
wait is that Medici's armor that the star used to wear?
等等,梅迪奇身上的铠甲不会就是星星之前穿过的那个吧?
(回复楼上)aryss
iirc the armour is silver not black.
如果我没记错的话那个铠甲是银色的,不是黑色的。
【另外,“它”也是所有身影里坐姿最嚣张的那个,不仅向后压住了椅背,而且还将双脚搁到了暗红长桌上,一点也不在意周围都是同样身份的高位者。】
Blazss
So savage.
真是粗蛮。
Anna_94
Just like leonard when Mr.Fool didnot present he like to put his feets on the table. but medici my man he didnot give a sht.
就像是愚者没在场时的伦纳德一样,爱把脚搭在桌子上。但我的梅迪奇他可是毫不在意。
Heaven_Bridge
Leonard, you cant learn from him!
伦纳德,你可不能跟他学!
【“红天使”,梅迪奇!】
aryss
aha!
啊哈!
【“确实。”有过类似经历的科林.伊利亚特轻轻颔首,站了起来。】
desertfox
Wait. When did Colin experience this before?
等等。科林啥时候有过这种经历了?
(回复楼上)chillytaka
previous expedition I believe, when they met the child named Jack and see the ouroboros symbol in a mural
应该是上次探险的时候,他们见到了一个叫杰克的小孩,在壁画上看到了乌洛琉斯的标志
【而那些高背椅上,坐了十一道身影,最上首两道,左边五道,右边四道。】
handwritten
All these assymetry OH GAWD it's killing me
所有这些不对称的东西,我·的·天·啊,简直是让我死
【右边四道则是被一根根绑带包裹住的木乃伊,穿着深沉黑袍,五官轮廓仿佛南大陆人的中老年男士,覆盖银色全身盔甲的巨人和丰腴柔美端庄圣洁的女士;】
aryss
mummy?, god of the dead salinger, god of dawn badheil and goddest of harvest omebella.
木乃伊不知道是谁,死神萨林格尔,晨曦之神巴德海尔还有丰收女神欧弥贝拉。
【最上首两张高背椅坐的分别是留着黑色卷发眸含阴影的男子和被迷雾笼罩着的女性。】
Anna_94
Wait Amon?.
等等,阿蒙?
(回复楼上)aryss
no..not amon. its sasrir.
不……不是阿蒙。是萨斯利尔。
aryss
so these two are dark angel sasrir and most probably the evernight goddess.
所以这两个人一个是暗天使萨斯利尔,另一个最可能是黑夜女神。
Carlos_Lopez_0470
I believe the one enshrouded in fig to be the Annihilation Wolf.
我相信那个笼罩阴影的家伙就是毁灭魔狼。
(回复楼上)Bone_God
he died before ASG showed up
魔狼在远太出现之前就死了
【“纯白天使,奥赛库斯……”】
aryss
so that is the eternal blazing sun's name.
所以这就是永恒烈阳的名字了。
【这位守护者话音未落,突然发出一声惨叫,身体内部喷射出了一股又一股金黄的火焰。】
Observer98
EBS is such an asshole. Just saying his name is enough to trigger some divine retribution
永恒烈阳真是个混蛋。光是念一下他的名字就要触发神罚的吗
(回复楼上)lindatan90
Actually, from Klein's explanation below, it seems like this is just remnants power from the symbols and not EBS's doing, because the Giant King Court is sealed off from the outside world and EBS can't detect it.
其实,从克莱恩后面的解释来看,这里看起来只是蕴藏在徽记中的残存神力而已,不是永恒烈阳要这么干,因为巨人王庭和外界是隔绝的,永恒烈阳也感应不了这里。
【“智天使,赫拉伯根……”】
Shippudenisthebest
wisdom angel might be the present god of knowledge and wisdom 🤔
智天使肯定就是现在的知识与智慧之神
【这个时候,科林.伊利亚特控制住情绪,继续念道:“风天使,列奥德罗……】
Reptile_Not_Alien
why is there no comments about rascible bro's true name >.>
为什么没人对暴躁老哥的真名留评论啊>.>
Chryne
God(Lord) of the storms
风暴之神(主)
【“黑夜女神,阿曼妮西斯……】
Shtriya
so her name is amanises . the vanished subsidry god besides the Wolf of Aniihilation .
所以她的名字是阿曼妮西斯。就是和毁灭魔狼一起消失的那个从神。
aryss
wow! finally we know her name. one of the earliest gods to be introduced.
哇哦!她的名字终于揭晓了。这可是早期最先介绍的几个神之一。
radarwave34
i knew it!!
我就知道!!
(回复楼上)Reptile_Not_Alien
wha, how?!
啥,你怎么知道的?!
(回复楼上)radarwave34
i predicted it bro
老哥,我之前就预言了这个
(回复楼上)radarwave34
and because shes the god of misfortune
因为她是厄运之神嘛
(回复楼上)Reptile_Not_Alien
oh ye, next chap also showed the callback. Your memory tho, dammn
哦对,下一章也会有一个回忆部分回顾这个消息。不过你的记忆力是真特么好
Hulyo_july
Amantha extract? Amantha mountain range? Dmn so many clues to her name in the previous chaps.
安曼达纯露?安曼达山脉?妈的,前面的章节里已经有这么多指向她名字的线索了……
【“亡灵之神,萨林格尔……】
Kaylamatea
Seriously, all these complicated names...why can't there just be an angel called Bob.
说真的,这些名字都好复杂……为什么就不能来个叫鲍勃的天使呢
【“灵物之神,托尔兹纳……”】
Anna_94
What parhway is this guy?. Chained god?. this guy is the mummy one right.
这家伙啥途径的?被缚之神?这家伙是个木乃伊对吧。
(回复楼上)Cami2708
It's the mutant pathway
是异种途径的
(回复一楼)lindatan90
Should be. He was also subsidiary god of Mutant King of 2nd Epoch.
应该是。他还是第二纪异种王的从神。
aryss
so this guy is the mummy. he is probably the chained god.
所以这家伙是个木乃伊。有可能是被缚之神。
(回复楼上)UuuhhhBhh
is it the chained pathway that currently in hand of mother tree of desire?
被缚途径目前是不是在欲望母树手里?
(回复楼上)aryss
yes. the prisoner pathway.
是的。囚犯途径。
【曾经的“救赎蔷薇”简直强大到可怕!】
Ozwin
Bit of an understatement... but likely necessary to have a chance at that creator fellow.
这有点轻描淡写了……但想要有机会和那个造物主老哥掰掰手腕,这也是必须的吧。
aryss
most of them are deities now
现在他们大多数都成神了
【1117章(红祭司-171章)最强组织】
Blazss
Evernight must have some authority to even sit on the seat of honor. And I think there's more to this betrayal thingy, like ASG expected this to happen or deliberately arranged it to happen for some baffling reason. Like what Roselle did, he is trying to minimize the corruption for something, it could be from the extraordinary characteristics, Cosmos, or the Underground?
黑夜肯定手里有一些权柄,要不然不可能坐在桌子上首。而且我觉得这整个背叛的事情里面肯定还有什么内幕,比如远太其实知道他们会背叛,或者因为一些莫名其妙的原因故意安排了这件事的发生。就像罗赛尔干的事那样,他试图减小自己身上的污染,这可能是来自额外的非凡特性的,或者来自星空,来自地下的?
(回复楼上)Slesk
I mean is possible but how could someone as powerful as the Ancient Sun God be corrupted by anything? From what we've learned that guy was a god of a bunch of pathways.
我得说,这是有可能,但远古太阳神这么强大的存在,怎么会被什么东西所污染呢?就我们目前看到的来说,这家伙可是好几条途径的神。
(回复楼上)SRandom
More likely that he had too many pathways and became insane. As Evernight said, Divergence is the basic order of the universe.
更有可能是因为他融合了太多条途径,所以才疯掉的。就像黑夜说的,分离是这个世界的基本法则。
(回复一楼)DeadSoul262
Well, I don't think that dark Angel sasrir is from seer pathway. Because,
1. Most of the gods and the angels at rose redemption gets some form of benefit/revenge if ASG dies. Neighbouring pathways like sun, evernight, knowledge, wind become gods, medici, that demoness, and death Salinger revels in the widespread war, chaos and death afterward. God of combat and earth mother gets revenge from the death of giant king. I don't see any benefit an angel of seer pathway would get from ASG's demise.
2. Evernight had already killed the seer pathway's old god demoniac wolf fleagrea and His descendants, antigonas. Surely the angels of the seer pathway, if anyone remaining at all, will never trust Evernight again.
嗯,我不觉得那个暗天使萨斯利尔是占卜家途径的。因为,
1. 如果远太死了,大部分救赎蔷薇的神明和天使都能实现某种形式上的好处/复仇。像太阳、黑夜、知识、风暴都是相邻途径,能成神,梅迪奇、那个魔女还有死神萨林格尔之后都能掀起一场席卷范围广大的战争,带来混乱和死亡。战神和大地母神能为巨人王的死复仇。我不觉得占卜家途径的天使能从远太的消亡中获得任何好处。
2. 黑夜已经杀掉了占卜家途径的旧神,魔狼弗雷格拉还有他的后代,安提格努斯。所以如果占卜家途径还剩下任何天使的话,他们肯定不会再信任黑夜了。
(回复一楼)sxfdcgfvhgbjhn
From the titles, it sounds like most of the members were angels whereas she was a sequence 0 true god. Plus, concealment was probably very important for the conspiracy. Not to mention the curse on the Land Forsaken by the Gods aligns with Her domain
从头衔来看,目前听起来坐在这里的大多数都是天使,但她是序列0的真神。而且,隐秘能力可能对于这次密谋活动来说至关重要。更不用说神弃之地留下的一部分诅咒看起来和她执掌的领域一致
Tetractys
Parallels aside, Klein has some pretty big shoes to fill compared to that All-Star line up.
抛开相似度不提,克莱恩那个队伍要比得上这只全明星阵容的话,还有很长的路要走啊
(回复楼上)Nihilum
At least the likelihood of being betrayed his low for only one member of his team is in the same group as him. My concern is that the first three members of the tarot group is in the same group. Did the author foreshadow Alger's betrayal with the Hanged Man card
至少他被背叛的可能性还是很低的,因为他的队伍里只有一个人和他是一个互换组的。我担心的是,塔罗会初始的三个成员是同一互换组的。作者是不是用倒吊人牌暗示了阿尔杰的背叛啊
(回复楼上)VoidFang
Alger is very fearful of the Fool, unless a god who can prove to be stronger than the Fool and threaten Alger, I don't think he will betray.
阿尔杰非常畏惧愚者的,除非有个神明能证明祂比愚者强,然后威胁阿尔杰,不然我不觉得他会背叛。
SRandom
Dissociation and deviation are the most basic order, but the ASG had taken too many authorities.
分离和异变是最基本的法则,但远太却攫取了太多的权柄。
Bone_God
Sh*t is this some kinda beyonder dream team? Just missing Amon and Adam to rule the world.
我擦,这是什么非凡者梦之队吗?只缺一个阿蒙和亚当就可以统治世界了。
(回复楼上)SRandom
Amon and Adam were the sons of ASG, so they probably won't betray 'Him'
阿蒙和亚当是远太的儿子们,所以他们俩应该不会背叛“祂”
ScorpCommander
Was Dark Angel Sasrir’s pathway ever confirmed? I have the suspicion that the similarities of the the Rose Redemption hall and the one above the Gray Fog are similar because Sasrir was of the Seer pathway. If so, it can be determine how everyone is seated on the table: 5 Kings of Angels on the side with 5 seats, 4 Gods on the side with 4 seats, and Evernight and Sasrir at the head of the table. If Sasrir is of the Seer pathway then he would be the founder of Rose Redemption along with Evernight as they both reign over Concealment. This might be how they were able to hide it from ASG.
暗天使萨斯利尔的途径现在实锤是哪个了吗?我怀疑这个救赎蔷薇聚会的大厅和那个灰雾之上的大厅有相似之处,是因为萨斯利尔是占卜家途径的。如果是这样的话,那就可以确认所有人座次排列的道理了:5个天使之王坐在侧桌边5席,4个神明坐在另一边4席,而黑夜还有萨斯利尔坐在上首。如果萨斯利尔是占卜家途径,那他就是和黑夜一起建立救赎蔷薇的创始者,因为他们俩都有隐秘权柄。这可能就是他们能成功对远太隐瞒此事的原因。
(回复楼上)ScorpCommander
It could instead be inferred that Dark Angel Sasrir is the True Creator. None of the others in Rose Redemption seem to be of the Shepherd pathway so Sasrir could be the King of Angels in this pathway instead. Medici saying that Rose Redemption was involved in the rise of the True Creator can point at this as well as Elder Lovia being possessed earlier in the chapter(by someone of the same sequence like Derrick and Chief Colin were).
这反而可以推断出暗天使萨斯利尔就是真实造物主。救赎蔷薇中的每一个人似乎都不是牧羊人途径的,所以萨斯利尔反而应该是这条途径的天使之王。梅迪奇说救赎蔷薇参与了真实造物主的崛起过程,洛薇雅长老在这一章里是被他附身的那个,这同样可以点明这一点(因为他们附身的都是同一序列的人,比如戴里克和科林首席)。
【1118章(红祭司-172章)克莱恩的畏惧】——本章说
etractys
A demoness wearing a monocle.
一个戴着单片眼镜的魔女。
(回复楼上)Ozwin
Susie wearing a monocle.
戴着单片眼镜的苏茜。
(回复楼上)UuuhhhBhh
the scariest thing in this novel
这本书里最可怕的事莫过于此
(回复一楼)Dark_Magus
What? The death seeker has fears?!
什么?作死达人还会害怕?!
(回复一楼)CoffeePanda
A demoness wearing monocle with a bag of gold in hands
一个戴着单片眼镜,手里提着一袋金子的魔女
【曾经的“救赎蔷薇”完全可以叫诸神联盟……可就是这样一个组织,在远古太阳神的威压下,依然只能隐蔽发展,躲躲藏藏,于黄昏的宫殿内密谋……曾经的远古太阳神究竟有多么强大……克莱恩难以遏制地吐了口气,于心中涌现出了强烈的感慨。】
Hulyo_july
If I had to guess the Ancient Sun God probably is connected to the Fool or even more the Lord of the grey fog, this guy is op asf scaring these rose redemption fellows. I mean the fool has infinite potential and is the first card in tarot cards. Its the only pathway group with marauder, apprentice and seer that is not included in the rose redemption members? That sounds fishy indeed was it excluded from joining the gathering? Of these deities? I don't thnk so. I've read it few chaps b4 that this pathways currently doesn't have a true God sitting in it.
Does that mean that there were somebody in it before?
If yes then who?
如果要我猜的话,远古太阳神可能和愚者有些联系,或者甚至就是灰雾之主,这个家伙实在是太挂壁了,把这些救赎蔷薇的人都吓坏了。我的意思是,愚者也有无穷的潜力,而且也是塔罗牌里的第一张牌。它的途径互换组只有偷盗者,学徒还有占卜家,但这里面没有一个是救赎蔷薇的成员对吧?这听起来就很可疑,他们是被排除在了这场聚会之外吗?排除在这些神明之外?我不这么觉得。我之前读到的章节里说,这些途径目前并没有真神。
这是不是意味着之前有人登临过神位呢?
如果是的话,那是谁呢?
(回复楼上)Bone_God
Annihilation Wolf was the ancient god of Evernight and Fool pathways
毁灭魔狼是黑夜和愚者途径的古神
【他审视了下自己的塔罗会,发现和“救赎蔷薇”相比,简直就像小孩子的游戏,即使算上编外的威尔.昂赛汀、帕列斯.索罗亚斯德、阿兹克.艾格斯和蕾妮特.缇尼科尔,也没法和全盛时期的“救赎蔷薇”比。】
anrodymas
Klein have some faith lol even youself started as a normal human being
克莱恩有点自信嘛23333甚至连你自己也是从普通人类身份爬上来的呢
(回复楼上)reverof
and it had been just a year and so
而这才只过去了差不多一年
Kioga
Don't forget Danitz
别忘了达尼兹
【“还有,女神确实是曾经的‘毁灭魔狼’从神,‘厄运女神’阿曼妮西斯,在那位古神陨落之后,祂不仅掌握了‘黑夜’相关权柄,成功登临了序列0宝座,而且还一手覆灭了弗雷格拉的所有后裔,将安提哥努斯家族的天使封禁于‘夜之国’内,用‘天之母亲’的身躯做降临的容器……真是狠啊……”】
Randompasserby
what's the word for scared and aroused at the same time again? 😅
那个词怎么说来着,就是形容一边收到了惊吓一边又令人“亢奋”了的那个?2333
(回复楼上)Mr_Scary_Cat
Gotta say, the evernight goddess is hot
不得不说,黑夜女神真的好辣啊
(回复一楼)Anna_94
Klein mother is goddam hot.
克莱恩的麻麻真的太特么热辣了。
(回复一楼)aryss
scaroused... ??
吓硬了……??
Shtriya
thats why i always said that this goddess is no good news and she is pro puppeteer .
这就是我总是说这个女神出现不是什么好消息的原因,她是个专业的操纵者。
(回复楼上)LazyOracle
yeah idk why anyone would believe someone who has concealment in their goddamn title
是啊,我也不懂怎么会有人相信一个头衔里有特么“隐秘”的人
Polymyth
Praise the Lady 👩
赞美女神
【作为黑夜的眷者,克莱恩想到这里,下意识就抬头环顾了一圈,害怕内心的隐秘泄露到外界。】
Observer98
Klein really has to stop doing this. Maybe when he gets stronger he'll lose the inclination but someone gunning for his own godhood shouldn't be that subservient to another god regardless of how good her milk tastes.
克莱恩以后真的不能再这么做了。也许等他强一点之后他就不用依赖她了,但一个能为了自己的神位杀人的人,不应该对另一个神明如此顺从,不管她给的好处到底有多香。
(回复楼上)Damick
I don't know. Since theorically the evernight domain has nothing to do with the seer pathway, I believe that she destroyed them for a personal reason. Remember that she took antigonus' and mother of the sky's father's authority. It is only natural that they would have animosity towards her, who took what should be rightfully theirs. It is implied afterall that mother of the sky was an angel of the evernight pathway, being not only a perfect vessel, but a rightful sucessor of her father's legacy. The brothers even went to the trouble to create a nation called Evernight to try to reclaim that domain for themselves. So I beliege that they were openly enemies of Evernight and she destroyed them at the root and
我也不知道。既然理论上来说黑夜的领域和占卜家途径没有关系,我相信她毁灭那些人应该是出于个人原因。记得她之前夺走安提格努斯还有天之母亲的父亲的权柄吗。他们对她有敌意是很正常的,她夺走了本该属于他们的东西。毕竟之前暗示过,天之母亲是黑夜途径的天使,她不仅是一个完美的容器,还是她父亲遗产的合法继承者。他们甚至还费尽心思建立了一个叫永夜之国的国度,试图宣称她手中的领域。所以我相信,他们和黑夜是公开为敌的关系,她也是把他们连根铲除了
(回复一楼)lindatan90
I won't say Klein is subservient. He only appears subservient as he is under the watchful eyes of the Goddess. He don't really has deep faith which can be seen from his lampooning. It is just an act to be safe.
我不觉得克莱恩有很顺从。他只是表现得很顺从,因为他现在还被女神注视着。他不是真的很信仰她,从他内心的吐槽也能看出来。这只是为了自保的举动罢了。
(回复一楼)Kioga
Don't worry guys, he's not from this era, his fate has no reason or way to strongly attach to a god, specially now that he knows what he knows
不用担心,各位,他也不是来自这个时代的人,他的命运没有理由,也不可能和一个神明紧密联系在一起,特别是现在他也知道了他该知道的东西
(回复楼上)Kioga
faith*
打错,(不是命运),信仰
【但碍于暂时性的黑夜眷者身份和本能的畏惧, 克莱恩没敢去多想,将关注的重点放在了别的地方。】
CaCao
"temporary"
“暂时性的”
【“因为不想让古神弗雷格拉复活,所以女神才控制了‘占卜家’途径的种种事情,不让未得祂允许的非凡者更进一步?】
Bubba970
Can't help but suspect that it's more about facilitating someone with the Gray Fog: in many ways, you could say Klien's predicessors failed, because they never acquired the Fog's power, so the goddess must have "fixed" the situation.
这让人不禁怀疑,这更像是在给拥有灰雾的人大开方便之门:从很多意义上来说,你都可以发现克莱恩的前辈们失败了,因为他们从来没有获得过灰雾,所以女神一定是“搞定了”他们。
(回复楼上)lindatan90
If the Ancient Sun God is the transmigration from 3rd cacoon, He is definitely one with cheat. So He actually failed because He gave up the Marauder Uniqueness. Can't imagine why He did that though. Perhaps He discovered some deadly trap within the gray fog?
如果远古太阳神是从第三纪的光茧里钻出来的穿越者,他绝对是带着金手指的人。所以他失败了,是因为他把偷盗者的唯一性让出去了。不过我无法想象他为什么要这么做。也许他在灰雾里发现了什么致命的陷阱?
【“对了,下午镇内那个圣职人员虚影提到谁诱惑了‘暗天使’萨斯利尔这神之左手、天国副君时,名字没法说出,像是被抹去了一样,这不就是‘隐秘’的表现吗?】
Shtriya
Is my comedic comment of her seducing sasir is becoming true ? 😅😅😂😂😂😂😂
所以我之前发了一个开玩笑的评论,说她引诱了萨斯利尔,竟然是真的吗?23333
(回复楼上)TrTryu
You Somehow divined it...
你不知怎么占卜出了真相……
【“也就是说,女神一手导演了远古太阳神的陨落,开启大灾变,结束了第三纪元……】
Tetractys
Yikes.
没~错。
Agm_18thlord
Oh ****.
哦我擦。
Vessel_Scholar
This is probably her requirement ritual to ascend to seq 0. "Direct the fall of a deity"
这可能是她晋升序列0的一是要求。“策划一个神明的陨落”
(回复楼上)Tukang_Sampah
i think she's already a sequence 0 before the fall of ancient sun god, because on the mural she is called "evernight goddess".
我觉得她在远古太阳神陨落之前就已经是序列0了,因为她在壁画上被称作“黑夜女神”。
(回复楼上)Vessel_Scholar
oh yeah, missed that
哦对,我忘了
Shtriya
atleast now kleins thoughts are like me . this giddes is pro , my bro klein . this was always my gut feeling .
至少现在克莱恩的想法和我一样了。这位姐可是专业的,克莱恩老哥。我一直以来都是这么觉得的。
aryss
she is one scary mofo 😱
她也太特么可怕了吧
SRandom
This is kinda of foreshadowed many chapters back since the land forsaken by God is always shrouded in darkness.
这感觉好多章之前就已经暗示了,自从描写神弃之地被笼罩在黑暗之中就开始了。
KplormKuts
Damnnn,the evernight goddess that dangerous?!😞😞😞😞😞
妈耶……黑夜女神这么危险吗?!
sugber
Bro... this mommy has one hell of a history
哎呦……这位麻麻的黑历史可真是够可怕的
【“虽然那不是阴谋,利用的是女神最渴望的事物,让祂心甘情愿自行走入陷阱,但执掌隐秘,谋划过白银城造物主陨落之事的女神,会没有一点额外的准备?】
CelineXD
does that mean Godness not only tacitly agree with the Geroge III's advancement to Black Emperor, but She has probably foreseen sth and started to plot very long time ago, including using Azik and Klein's relationship to commondate Death's uniqueness and also achive great benefits in this world war?
这是不是意味着女神其实不仅默许了乔治三世晋升为黑皇帝,而且还可能预见到了某些事情,在很长时间之前就开始谋划了,包括利用阿兹克和克莱恩的关系来获取死神的唯一性,还有从世界大战中获取巨大的好处?
(回复楼上)anrodymas
If it’s true then since the moment Klein got her attention there has been a ploy or arrangement all along and man that was in 1 vol. I am scared to see what will happen next.
如果真是这样,那克莱恩被她注意到的一瞬间,他就一直身处于一个阴谋之中,或者一直是被安排着的。但天啊,那可是第一卷啊。我好害怕接下来会发生的事情。
(回复楼上)CelineXD
yeah....that's indeed scary!!!
是啊……这真的很可怕!!!
(回复楼上)lindatan90
I think She wasn't that happy with George III as She let Trissy live instead of sending her to foggy town. This has actually adds some variation to George III's plan.
我觉得她并没有那么乐见乔治三世的事情,因为她放任特莉丝活了下来,而不是直接把她送进迷雾小镇。这其实给乔治三世的计划增加了一些变数。
Observer98
Best to start asking these questions now.
现在最好要开始多问一些类似的问题了。
【“呃,了解了这么多隐秘历史,我喝下‘古代学者’魔药后会不会当场消化……”】
KplormKuts
oh yes you definitely will,go get it man!
哦是的,你绝对会当场消化的,快晋级吧!
【“天使之王里最强的那位,神之左手萨斯利尔,后来为什么不见了,消失在了历史的长河里?呃,也许祂就是现在的某位邪神,‘真实造物主’,‘宇宙暗面’,或者‘欲望母树’?】
TomoyaNagase
Yeah I can picture him to be the current True/Fallen Creator.
是的,我完全能想见他就是现在的真实/堕落造物主的样子。
Observer98
Dark Side of the Universe is my favourite evil god.
宇宙暗面是我最喜欢的邪神。
(回复楼上)lindatan90
Who don't even have a single airtime until now.
他到现在脸都还没露过一次
(回复楼上)Observer98
Anyone that's chunni enough to unironically call themselves Dark Side of the Universe is okay in my book
对于任何一个竟然会认真地管自己叫做宇宙暗面的中二病,我都非常可以
Kioga
I'll cross True Creator out because his origins were pretty much given on that mural of the New Gods eating the Ancient Sun God, Mother Tree of Desire, probably not, unless there are sequences that can change the *** of an angel, so it could be the Dark Side, but we don't know much about him anyway, so we're back to nothing
我会把真实造物主排除在列表之外,因为他的起源已经在那个新神分食远古太阳神的壁画上交代得很清楚了,欲望母树应该也不是,除非还有能在天使级变性的序列,所以可能会是宇宙暗面,但我们对于他知道的情报也不多,所以我们最后还是得不出任何结论
【就在这个时候,他目光一扫间,看见首席的侧脸前所未有的苍白和难看,嘴里还低声念叨出了几个单词:“这不可能,不可能……”】
desertfox
Yo, the guy must have been so broken...
哟,这伙计一定非常崩溃……
【“全能的主啊,我忏悔,……诱惑了萨斯利尔,王们频繁到属于黄昏的宫殿内密谋……】
Hulyo_july
Now this make sense indeed. According to what we've read so far. The "..." is amanises concealed, tempted sasrir and often holds gathering in the giants Palace lol
And the Kings of angels, medici was also here because of his specialty of conspiring. They really were scheming against ASG.
现在这真的非常说得通了。根据我们目前读到的东西。这个“…”就是被隐秘掉的阿曼妮西斯,她诱惑了萨斯利尔,还经常到巨人的宫殿里举行聚会2333
还有天使之王们,梅迪奇也在这里,因为他擅长搞阴谋。他们真的在策划针对远太。
【“……我发现了这一切,但已经太晚,堕落,血腥,黑暗,腐烂,杀戮,污秽和阴影已流淌着淹没了这片土地。】
Asain
ah i see, all authorities of the gods are there in the town
啊我懂了,所有这些神明的权柄都在这座城市里出现过
【这一刻,戴里克仿佛从首席的眼中看到了一丝怜悯和悲伤,听见他“嗯”了一声道:“也许。”】
Observer98
Just let the kids keep believing...at least until they come to believe in our Lord and Saviour, Mr Fool.
就让这些孩子们继续相信下去吧……至少在他们信仰我们的救世主,愚者之前。
【1118章(红祭司-172章)克莱恩的畏惧】
Mfnick
There are too many secrets that are come to light in this chapter, I am kind of shocked, I think the world building of this novel is one of the best on light novel literacy
这一章里曝光的秘密实在是太多了,我有点震惊,感觉这本书的世界观构架真是我读过的轻小说里最好的之一,真的
(回复楼上)Blazss
Exactly. The whole plot coming from the beginning to this very chapter was very well-planned and executed perfectly. I seldom admire novels, but this one really requires in-depth thoughts that most authors in webnovel lack of. Well-played.
If you want suggestion, this is what I'm currently reading right now that got me hooked diferrent from LotM but definitely the best of best too: Mother of Learning.
确实。整个剧情从最开始到这一章都安排得非常好,写得也很完美。我不太常对小说抱有欣赏之情,但这本真的很需要一些深入的阅读思考,这是大部分网文作者所欠缺的。真的很厉害。
如果你们需要推书的话,我目前正在读这本,也很沉迷,这本和诡秘的风格不太一样,但绝对也是最高级别的:mother of learning.
【这本书是外网网友的原创网文,所以暂且不翻中文名了】
(回复楼上)desertfox
Mother of Learning is so good. Actually it was my #1 novel before I knew about LoTM. And it's already finished.
Mother of Learning真的很棒。其实这本书在我看诡秘之前是我心中排行第一的小说。而且已经完结了。
Randompasserby
Taking the Demonic Wolf Flegrea's madness because of his Non-Neighboring Authorities as precedent, with what we know of the near Omnipotence of the Ancient Sun God after He defeated most other Ancient Gods even after distributing some of those Authority to His Children and Followers..
I'm getting the feeling the Rose Redemption original plot might be along the similar lines of "Purifying" the Ancient Sun God and the Fallen Creator was the necessary evil by-product? Kind of like the Angra Mainyu of this universe?
考虑到魔狼弗雷格拉是因为他拥有非相邻途径权柄而疯掉的这个先例,还有我们已经知道远古太阳神在击败了大部分古神,甚至还把部分权柄分给了自己的孩子和追随者之后,依然是接近全知全能的情况下……
我有种感觉,救赎蔷薇一开始的计划可能更接近“净化”远古太阳神,而堕落造物主就是一个必然的,邪恶的副产物?有点像是这个宇宙的安哥拉·曼纽?
【安哥拉·曼纽是琐罗亚斯德教(祆教)中代表邪恶的神明,由于祆教相信二元论,安哥拉·曼纽就是与代表光明的阿胡拉·马兹达对应的恶神,两人是孪生兄弟。】
(回复楼上)Randompasserby
At any rate we really lack any information on the Crux of the issue, which is the Ancient Sun God Himself 🤔
无论如何,我们目前还是很缺乏很多核心信息,那就是远古太阳神本人的信息
CelineXD
1. According to mural in Afternoon Town, Derrick only found three founder names of Rose Redemption (Dark Angel Sasrir, War Angel Medici and Fate Angel Ouroboros). The rest were concealed because they all became Gods and Godnesses and left Rose Redemption?
2.I don't think Sasrir is True Creator. Because in the mural, True Creator was a baby born after Wind/Wisdom/White ate ASG's body. It appeared Ouroboros and Medici was loyal and following True Creator probably because they think it's part of ASG? and back then they really wanted redemption instead of rebellation. And they realized the rest members (now six deities) acted out of disgraceful desires so they built those deities in their twisted versions in True Creator's temple (discovered by Derrick long time ago) and said Sasrir wad tempted!
3. Back then ASG definitely had something wrong, so everyone except His two sons gathered together in the name of redemption. But there's still limited clues for the reason.
4. it's noticed Colin had strange (probably sad) expression when seeing Godness of Harvest (Ombelle). Derrick thought he was hoping a true harvest in city of silver. However, is there anyone remembering Emily White once said city of silver believed in Ombelle instead of Giant King Amuir? I don't know if there's anything related with his odd expression as well as mumbling.
5. In this chapter, Klein is wondering why Feynapotter (Believed in Earth Mother) not declared war on Storm on behalf of Feysac (Believed in God of Combat), considering they are actually Mother and Son. Is it foreshadowing some plot behind the war? or hinting there's sth wrong with Ombelle and Bladel?
1.根据下午镇的壁画,戴里克只看到了三个救赎蔷薇创始者的名字(暗天使萨斯利尔,战争天使梅迪奇,还有命运天使乌洛琉斯)。剩下的都被隐秘掉了,因为他们现在都成了神明,离开了救赎蔷薇?
2.我不觉得萨斯利尔就是真实造物主。因为在壁画上,真实造物主就是在风暴/智慧/纯白天使分食远太尸体之后诞生的婴儿。但乌洛琉斯和梅迪奇似乎对真造很忠诚,还追随着他,可能是因为他们觉得他是远太的一部分?而且当时他们真的是想救赎他,而不是反叛他。而且他们意识到了其他的成员们(现在的六神)的行为都是出于不光彩的欲**望,所以他们在真造的宫殿里制造了各种扭曲的这些神明的形象(戴里克很久以前发现的那个),还说萨斯利尔被诱惑了!
3.远太当年肯定出了一些问题,所以除了他的两个儿子之外的所有人都以救赎之名聚在一起搞了个聚会。但现在这个理由还缺乏线索。
4.科林看到丰收女神(欧弥贝拉)的表情很奇怪(可能还有点悲伤)。戴里克觉得他是期望白银城能有一次真正的丰收。然而,大家还记得埃姆林·怀特曾经说过的吗,白银城信仰的是欧弥贝拉,而不是巨人王奥尔米尔?我不知道这和他奇怪的表现还有喃喃自语会不会有点关系。
5.这一章里,克莱恩在想为什么费内波特(信仰大地母神)没有代表弗萨克(信仰战神)向风暴宣战,特别是考虑到他们其实是母子。这是不是暗示了什么战争背后的阴谋?或者是在暗示欧弥贝拉和巴德海尔有什么问题?
Demoneastz
This made me fall for Evernight Goddess. To think She is the one who directed the fall of ASG...
这让我完全为黑夜女神所倾倒了。一想到她就是那个一手策划了远太陨落的存在……
Nyooo
To able to lead the egotistical angels and direct the fall of th e Ancient Sun God, the Evernight Goddess seems like a protagonist of the era.
能够领导这么多自负的天使们,还一手策划了远古太阳神的陨落,黑夜女神看起来真的像是这个时代的主角。
Shtriya
Amanises being goddess and tempting the sasir is no shock to me , as i had already guessed it sometime ago . But her being the true mastermind is shock to me and even being a member of rose redemption🤯 .
And it is really very shamefull matter for medici to become a sequence material for like of alsita even after being a complete antique piece of history .
Damn this goddes is pro among pros 😅. I think klein should find a way to go out of this goddess range . She is really very dangerous . My gut feeling about her are becoming true with each chapter .
It is first time i feel pity for klein that he is in really great danger and most dangerous is his Grandma or sugar mama😅
After reading this chapter im really intresres in knowing about sasir and TC .
阿曼妮西斯就是女神,还引诱了萨斯利尔,我一点都不惊讶,因为我之前早就猜到了。但她就是那个救赎蔷薇幕后的主谋,甚至还是其中一员,我真的震惊了。
而且对梅迪奇来说,作为一个老古董,历史的参与者,竟然变成了亚利斯塔的序列魔药材料,实在是太丢脸了2333
妈耶,这个女神在专业选手里也是最专业的。我觉得克莱恩应该想个办法脱离女神的控制。她真的非常危险。我内心深处对她的直觉随着一章章进展逐渐成真了。
这还是我第一次为克莱恩感到遗憾,他现在真的身处于极大的危险之中,但最危险的就是他的干妈或者干奶奶2333
看完这章之后,我真的对于萨斯利尔还有真造的消息非常感兴趣了。
Aaaalison
To think why Azik used his true name this time, why he didn’t have the mask to change his look, why such an important stuff like 0-08 was taken out of the church, why Adam got 0-08 and Evernight god death uniqueness...can’t say they’re all coincidence and for sure they both know how special Klein is...
考虑到阿兹克这次轮回使用了自己的真名,为什么他没有用那个面具来改变自己的外貌呢,为什么像0-08这么重要的东西被从教会偷出去了,为什么亚当能拿到0-08,黑夜能拿到死神的唯一性…这不能都是巧合吧,而且他们也肯定都知道克莱恩有多特殊……
Heshin
In line with "His" will is it?
I'm starting to think Klein might not have been the last transmigrater to awaken... The Fool may have duped every one including himself.
这也是“祂”的意志,不是吗?
我开始觉得克莱恩可能并不是最后一个苏醒的穿越者了……愚者也许欺骗了所有人,包括他自己。
Aby55
Sigh...I was always worried that the Goddess might turn out to be sinister
唉……我一直在担心最后揭晓女神是一个阴险的存在什么的
ResidentialPsycho
The Evernight Goddess is so crafty. No wonder she and Klein get along so well.
黑夜女神真的太狡猾了。怪不得她和克莱恩相处得这么好。
Whisky_007
The chef’s action shows that he knows some secrecies hidden from this meeting. I believe this would be a huge cule in future chapters of.
首席的举动说明他肯定知道这次聚会幕后隐藏的一些秘密。我相信这应该会是未来章节里的一个重要线索。
【1119章(红祭司-173章)默契的配合】
Demoneastz
Finally, they made it to the sea! Now hop on the boat, and let's set sail to find One Piece!
终于,他们到了海边了!现在就跳上小船,让我们扬帆起航,去寻找海贼王的宝藏吧!
DeadSoul262
I just realised, if Klein rescues the people of city of silver and brings them outside, he will have a very capable Kill-squad. Gehrman Sparrow with an army, that'll be something to forward to!!
我才意识到,如果克莱恩把白银城的人救了出来,把他们带出去的话,他将会拥有一只非常能干的杀戮小队。格尔曼·斯帕罗加上一支队伍,这太令人期待了!!!
nsa41
Loyal army for the new kingdom of fool.
Kelin is going to start is own empire .
愚者的新国度的忠诚军队。克莱恩要建立自己的帝国了。
Mapaglarong_Haraya
What a great teamwork, only by time worn experience, will you gonna achieve such feat especially when fighting in such environment
这团队配合真不错,只有通过时间的磨练,才能做到这样的效果,特别是在这种环境下战斗
Aby55
Wow! They made it out! There's hope for them
哇哦!他们出来了!他们有希望了
Slesk
Nice, now the City of Silver has a beach to open up for tourism =D
棒,现在白银城有海滩了,可以开放旅游业了=D
hsbhassan
Well with all this information dump... I am going to address my theory now.. I think there were some hidden circumstances to the formation of RR and three angels betrayed the ASG and present RR angels i.e. sasrir, red and silver were betrayed and they are even now loyal to ASG.
Adam and Amon just abandoned ASG but the three are still struggling to resurrect ASG under the name of RR.....
好的,这信息量……我现在来说说我的推论……我觉得真实造物主的诞生里应该有一些隐情,还有三个背叛了远太的天使和真实造物主现在手里的天使。比如萨斯利尔,红天使和银天使,他们当时是背叛了,但现在他们还忠于远太。
所以亚当和阿蒙就这么遗弃了远太,但这三个人还挣扎着想要复活远太,只是以真实造物主之名……
AKirchner
Unshadowed Cruzifix, the Gaze of The True Creator, The Gray Fog and a tacit cooperation between a Shepherd, a Demon Hunter, a Blessed of the Fool plus three more people and at least two Mystical items were needed to come this far. Two people dead.
How did Jack survive that?!?
无暗十字,真实造物主的注视,灰雾,还有一只有牧羊人,猎魔人,愚者眷者+其他三个人还有至少两件神奇物品的战术小队默契配合,才将将走到这步,还死了两个人。
所以杰克到底是怎么活下来的?!?
【1120章(红祭司-174章)王庭追猎者】
Tetractys
I wonder how he preserved himself for so long. Probably has something to do with the sleeping Sasrir.
不知道他是怎么能撑这么久的。也许和沉睡的萨斯利尔有关。
Seion_Ozora
Really author?! Another death!! Can you just give m-*cough* them a break?!! OTL
不是吧作者?!又发便当!!你就不能特m*咳*让他们休息一会吗?!!OTL
ResidentialPsycho
I wonder what will happen when they use the key.
不知道他们要是用了那把钥匙的话会发生什么。
ThisDaddy
Sasrir might have fallen inthe fight with the ancient God
萨斯利尔可能在和古神的战斗中陨落了
(回复楼上)Dr_SaltedFish
I still think he is the true creator, cause it was mentioned very early on that the body of the true creator was seal in the land of the forsaken. His slumber might not be voluntary?
我还是觉得他是真实造物主,因为很早的时候提到过,真实造物主的身体被封印在了神弃之地。他可能并不是主动沉睡的?
(回复楼上)lindatan90
Though I always inclined on theory that Sasrir = True Creator too, I think this chapter actually shows that He isn't. TC doesn't seems like one in slumber and is rather active.
虽然我一直倾向于认为萨斯利尔=真实造物主,但我觉得这一章其实表明了他不是。真实造物主并没有沉睡,还挺活跃的。
【1121章(红祭司-175章)弱点】
desertfox
Colin is such a badass! Klein can't posture much if he was there right now. Haha.
科林真的太屌了!就算克莱恩在这里都没办法这么装逼。哈哈。
Tetractys
To the victor go the spoils!👑👑👑
赢者通吃!
Randompasserby
Shame that Klein didn't get to posture much this expedition but then again given that the Fallen Creator is also watching on the sideline... 😫
可惜克莱恩这次远征过程中没啥机会装逼,但话又说回来,既然堕落造物主也在一边全程看着呢……
TomoyaNagase
Looks like Colin will be able to reach rank 3! He still needs the formula I think.
看来科林马上能到序列3了!不过他还需要配方吧。
(回复楼上)Demoneastz
I bet He got the formula tho, City of Silver babe!
不过我打赌他已经拿到配方了,这可是白银城啊宝贝!
(回复楼上)Randompasserby
I really hope he did, can't go empty handed now or "His" dignity in front of Derrick and Collin would suffer 🤔
我也希望他拿到了,现在不能空手而归的,不然“祂”在戴里克和科林面前的威严会受到损害的
(回复楼上)Mr_Scary_Cat
He'd need someone with the ability to divine the formula from the giant's spirit/characteristic.
他需要一个有能力从巨人的灵魂/特性中占卜出配方的人。
(回复一楼)ResidentialPsycho
I think they already have a Sequence 3 characteristic for that pathway. They just don't have the formula. If they can get the formula, then they could tremendously increase their power.
我觉得他们已经拿到了这条途径的序列3特性了。他们只是没拿到配方。如果他们能拿到配方的话,那他们的力量就能极大地获得增强了。
【1122章(红祭司-176章)“愚者”的指示】
Tetractys
It looks like it's only a matter of time for Colin's advancement. Very happy for him, he deserves it after everything that has happened so far.
现在看来科林的晋级只是早晚的了。真是为他开心,经历了这么多事情之后,他完全值得获得这样的奖励。
(回复楼上)Aby55
Yeah he's badass and the City of Silver needs him to be even stronger. The Fool does as well
是啊,他那么狂霸酷炫,而且白银城也需要他变得更强一点。愚者也是
(回复一楼)Mapaglarong_Haraya
and we will have a loyal believer of the fool as his anchor in the near future
而且我们的愚者在不远的将来又会获得一名忠诚的信徒作为他的锚了
(回复一楼)Krebert
It's rare that as a reader, I feel genuine admiration for a character, but the Chief is just too freaking cool. Experience, wisdom, responsibility, and valor.
作为一名读者,我很少会对一个角色感到由衷的敬佩。但首席真的太特么酷了。老练,智慧,负责,英勇。
Luofuchen
Cant wait to see what Elder Lovia is up too.
She may have been in contact with True Creature.
Just as Derrick is in contact with The Fool.
迫不及待想看到洛薇雅长老到底想干啥了。她可能正在和真实造物主联络。就像戴里克正在和愚者联络一样。
(回复楼上)DeadSoul262
Lovia is definately in contact with True creator. And I am sure that her goal was to check the condition of Dark Angel sasrir, the exact reason why God of Knowledge and Adam helped Klein indirectly.
洛薇雅绝对正在和真实造物主联系。而且我很确信她的目标就是要确认暗天使萨斯利尔的状态,这也是知识之神和亚当间接帮助克莱恩的原因。
Mapaglarong_Haraya
looks like Adam envisioned such instances if these are not coincidences
看起来亚当预见到了这样的情况,如果不是巧合的话
AKirchner
If the only way is through the Palace, how come Jack could enter the Forsaken Land?
如果唯一一条路就是得穿过宫殿的话,那杰克到底是怎么进入神弃之地的?
Slesk
Mr Fool treats Little Sun very well =D
愚者好好奖赏了小太阳一番=D
ResidentialPsycho
A Sequence 3 formula. How exciting! Derrick will be able to make a major contribution with this.
一个序列3配方。太令人激动了!戴里克终于能用这个获得巨多贡献点了。