诡秘外国网友评论节选意译 - 【1108-1116】【含本章说】
【1108章（红祭司-162章）混乱的家庭】
Tetractys
As a man, I can't begin to fathom the mental state "Tracy" must have had growing up. Witnessing his father turn into a woman and giving birth to a younger brother, and then turning into a woman himself.
However, I don't mean to disparage Transgender people with this comment, whatsoever.
作为一个男性，我真的完全没办法体会“特蕾西”在成长过程中经历的心理状态。目睹自己的父亲变成女人，生下自己的弟弟，然后自己也变成了女人。
不过我这条评论完全没有任何贬低跨性别人群的意思，真的。
（回复楼上）Ozwin
If someone dropped that whole thing on me I would probably be frozen stiff like a deer in the headlights. I would have no clue on how to begin unpacking all the emotions laid out there, much less having any idea what to tell her what she should do with them. “There is a whole sequence based on psychology, we should really go speak with one of them about this. All I can do is dumbly listen and make an oof sound at appropriate moments.”
如果有人跟我分享这整件事情，我大概会不知所措到和被聚光灯照到的小鹿一样完全僵硬吧。我根本不知道到底要怎么开始一点点拆开这些被包裹着放在那里的一系列复杂情绪，更不用说要怎么告诉她要如何处理这些情绪了。“我知道有一个基于心理学存在的序列，我们也许真的应该找一个他们序列的人聊聊这件事。我能做的就只有傻傻地听着，在合适的时候‘哎呦’几声附和一下。”
【deer in the headlights：被汽车头灯照到的鹿。据说鹿因为视网膜上有更多的感光体，反而导致它们在夜里被骤然出现的汽车灯光照到时会僵在原地，因为它们那个瞬间，被这种灯光货真价实地照瞎了。所以北美高速上经常能看见被撞死的鹿。】
（回复一楼）Talthor
Likely ****ed up beyind belief as many who take that pathway aren't awarenore do they want to turn into the oppositr gender. It likely fucks with their heads, prolly why most of that sect is kind of crazy. This doesn't apply for Transgenders since we already saw a depiction of that with Xios friend, it didn't really affect her as in her mind she was already/always female.
这很可能是为了狠狠摧毁那些完全不知道他们选了这条途径之后会被转变性别的人的信念。这感觉就像是给他们的脑袋狠狠来上一击，也怪不得这个教派的人大部分都有点疯。这和跨性别没关系，因为我们已经见到了一个真正的跨性别描写，休的朋友，这对她的自我认知来说明没有什么影响，因为对她来说她从始至终都是女性。
（回复一楼）Randompasserby
Transgender people are just being true to themselves. The only one we've seen someone with this motivation was Xio's poor friend.
Most other times we've actually seen their nasty habit of just casually springing the surprise before people are about to advance like a cruel joke 🤔
跨性别人群只是在做他们自己罢了。我们见到的唯一一个有这种动机的人就是休那个可怜的朋友。
其他大多数时候，我们看到的只不过是他们总是喜欢给那些要晋升的人搞这种所谓“惊喜”的恶心爱好罢了，简直像是个残酷的玩笑。
（回复一楼）Damick
Yeah, one thing is to want the change, like shermane, but if it is not something you desire, it must be pretty awful. In a sense it is how trangender people feel before changing, but worse, since the person lost what they were, instead of longing for what it is not. About the father's transformation, it is possible for it to not be a problem for a kid, but it requires a loving family and talks, which I suppose Tracy had neither
是的，重要的一点就是他们得想要改变，就像雪曼。但如果你并不想要这种改变，那感觉一定糟透了。从某种意义上来说，这其实就是跨性别人群在手术之前的感受，甚至更糟，因为这些人失去了他们“是什么”，取而代之的是他们“不是什么”。至于这个父亲的转变，对于孩子来说这还是有不造成困扰的可能性的，但这需要一个有爱的家庭和许多长谈，这两个选项我猜特蕾西哪个都没有
（回复一楼）ThisDaddy
Not worse than killing your own parents...like Derrick.
不会比被迫杀死自己的父母更糟了……就像戴里克。
Randompasserby
Oh. So the blood's for divining Katarina's whereabouts huh 😐
My first thought whenever Klein's collecting blood was to automatically assume he's going to kidnap people into Groselle's Travels again lol....oh well, he could still do that I suppose. Kidnapping a Demoness, how scandalous 😏
哦。所以血是用来占卜卡特琳娜的下落的哈。
每当克莱恩开始收集血液的时候，我就会自动认为他又要把人绑进格罗塞尔游记里了23333……哦好吧，我猜这回他还是可以这么做。绑架一个魔女，噫听起来好变态啊~
（回复楼上）desertfox
Maybe I got it wrong but didn't Medici wanted Klein to look for Katarina? If Klein immediately sent Katarina to Groselle's Travels, how is he gonna explain that to Medici?
也许我理解错了，但梅迪奇不是要克莱恩去找卡特琳娜吗？如果克莱恩立刻把卡特琳娜放进格罗塞尔游记了，他要怎么跟梅迪奇解释啊？
（回复楼上）Randompasserby
Pulling Katarina into the book would already be one hell of a risk despite Medici, I was mainly talking about Tracy actually.
就算不论梅迪奇，把卡特琳娜放进书里本身就是极大的风险了， 所以我这里说的其实是特蕾西。
（回复楼上）desertfox
Oh, I missed that. Nevertheless, pulling Tracy into the book erases her traces in the real world. Katarina would sense that.
哦哦，我漏掉了这段。不过，把特蕾西拉进书里，就可以抹掉她在现实世界的一切踪迹。卡特琳娜会感知到的。
（回复一楼）Sogar
I'm honestly surprised he has not ... It is the best way to make sure she can't reach anybody and that he can deal with her whenever he wants. I see it as a guaranty that even if she gets out of her state she won't be able to do anything.
The only reason for him not to do so is that she might well die (or find a way to do so) before he deals with Katarina which is definitely something he wants to avoid.
说实话，他没这么做我反而很惊讶……这其实是确保她没办法成功求救的最佳方式了，他可以随心所欲地料理她。我觉得这算是一个绝对保险，即使她脱离了这种状态，她也肯定没办法做任何事情。
他不这么做的唯一一个原因就是她也可能会死（或者找到方法寻死），而且是在他搞定卡特琳娜之前，这绝对是他想要避免的情况。
（回复楼上）Isaactomace
I think he would rather avoid bringing people he cant trust into it. Imagine if it was actually adams blood he got instead?
我觉得他更愿意避免把任何他没办法信任的人拉进去。想象一下，如果他得到的其实是亚当的血呢？
Mr_Scary_Cat
Technically, Vice-Admiral Tracy still has the chance to switch over to the Red Priest pathway and once again become a man.
确切来说，特蕾西中将还是有机会转到红祭司途径，再次成为男人的。
（回复楼上）Dr_SaltedFish
Only at the demigod level, but who wants to give her such benefit? She has to betray the demoness sect first. She needs to know about neighbouring pathway, doesn't seem like Tracy even know about that.
只有半神层次才行，但谁会愿意给她这样的好处呢？她首先得背叛魔女教派。她还得知道邻近途径的事情，特蕾西现在看起来甚至连这个都不知道。
【1109章（红祭司-163章）耐心】——本章说
【做完这一切，克莱恩飞快将一只老鼠转化成了秘偶，让它跑至自身操纵能力的边缘，张开嘴巴，低声诵念起一个尊名：】
onemeterofsky
Uhh, rat...? Can Klein choose a little more sophisticated marionet? I mean Zaratul is using black crows, why can't Klein have a dove or raven or squirrels(?!). But hey, this is Backlund, so I guess rats do blend in the crowd...
呃，老鼠…？克莱恩就不能选一个稍微复杂一点的秘偶吗？我的意思是，查拉图用的都是黑乌鸦啥的，克莱恩为啥就不能用鸽子或者渡鸦或者松鼠（？！）。但，嘿，这可是贝克兰德，所以我猜老鼠确实能有助于混迹于人群之中…
【他怀疑“红天使”恶灵和自己一样谨慎、小心和沉稳，希望做收网的渔夫，而不是那个网。】
Ahart
the mantis stalks the cicada, unaware of the oriole behind...
螳螂捕蝉，黄雀在后……
（回复楼上）Eternal_Pathfinder
whole pack of Orioles
一大群黄雀
handwritten
Oh wow this is new. MC almost got outsmarted in a Chinese novel
哦哇哦这可是前所未见。在中国网文里主角竟然会差点被智商碾压
【我的这番行动没有刻意掩饰什么，如果我去借封印物，而大主教给了，那说明女神在乔治三世那件事情上的真实态度是：不喜欢那个国王成为“黑皇帝”，但也只能默认，若是有人愿意破坏仪式，很乐意提供一定的帮助……克莱恩抚平了略显焦躁的情绪，让观察的状态变得较为放松。】
sugber
That is , if people even know if Klein is a Blessed, he could just hide the artifacts characteristics with more bizarre ****.
那就是说，就算人们甚至知道克莱恩是个眷者，他也完全可以用更加诡异的各种东西来掩盖封印物的效果。
【一位活了一千多年的“不老魔女”，强大而资深的序列3圣者，在“红天使”恶灵的陷阱面前竟似乎毫无反抗之力，就那样没有了动静。】
SRandom
Hunter pathway is about setting traps
猎人途径就是和设陷阱有关的嘛
（回复楼上）Kioga
A Magician should set up stages too, but recently our Magician has been a bit lazy
魔术师也需要提前布置好舞台的，但最近我们的魔术师有点懒
（回复楼上）Bunnybell
Lately he is being too occupied with spooking people to set up play XD
最近他都忙着吓唬人，没时间布置戏剧了XD
sugber
Im shocked, how the ****k, no way, i dont believe that the red angel evil spirit who doesnt even have power near the angel level was able to kill this sequence 3 so smashing low sequencers.
我震惊了，这特么怎么可能，我不相信这个甚至连天使级力量都没有的红天使恶灵竟然能就这么杀掉一个序列3，就像碾碎一个低序列一样。
（回复楼上）MasterHaug
Surprise element and he is a REALLY experienced evil spirit.
毕竟这是意想不到的“惊喜”，而且他可是个真正经验丰富的恶灵。
【——“诡法师”互换位置时，可以选择只对调身体和连外物一起两种方式，不过，这在如今的层次没法精确，不能克莱恩想留下什么外物就留下什么，只能选择全部留和全部不留。】
lindatan90
"could choose to swap either"
是“可以选择对调”
【这里译文出现了个错字，把“could only choose to”写成了“could only choose two”】
【听到这句话，克莱恩边从衣兜里拿出一件事物，边上翘起嘴角，颇为愉悦地回应道：“你也做得不错。”】
faimherb
Klein ready to bribe him
克莱恩准备好要贿赂他了
Gengar_The_Fool
HAHAHA.
🤣🤣🤣
AmonRolled...
🤣🤣🤣
哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈。阿蒙既视感……
【说话间，他对着手中的单片眼镜呵了口气，将它戴到了左眼位置。】
Christopher_Blase_9814
Klein is such a troll here! 😂🤣
克莱恩在这里真是个顶级钓鱼人！23333
Ialreadyhaveone
Hahaha MASTERPIECE! BRAVO 👏 BRA 👏 VO 👏
哈哈哈哈神来之笔！太棒了👏太👏棒👏了👏
TomoyaNagase
Klein trolling a king of angels by pretending to be a different king of angels! Well done! If scaring a king of angels with your bizarre acting doesn't qualify for digesting bizzaro sorcerer then what does?
克莱恩假扮成一个天使之王来戏耍另一个天使之王！干得漂亮！如果用诡异的景象惊吓一个天使之王还不能满足消化诡法师魔药的条件，那还有哪个办法可以呢？
Anna_94
Nonono not the left eye, Amon wearing it on his right eye .
不不不不不是左眼，阿蒙都是戴在他右眼的。
aryss
yeah, that is one way to court death 🧐
是的，这种作死的方式挺独特🧐
Randompasserby
Damn it Klein if you're trolling I swear to God... I felt like my heart stopped beating a couple seconds there 😭
妈耶克莱恩，如果你这是在钓鱼，我真的对天发誓……我感觉我的心脏那瞬间停跳了那么几秒钟😭
YuriLover212
If I ever find out that any of my friends also read LoTM, I am sooooooo doing this!
如果我有朋友也看诡秘之主的话，我也会对他们干一样的事情！！！
（回复楼上）Jack_N_Mikhail
that would be hilarious
🧐🧐🧐
especially if you and a bunch of your friend do it together 🧐
那应该会超搞笑
🧐🧐🧐
特别是如果你和你的一群朋友同时做出了这样的举动的时候🧐
KplormKuts
he's gonna pretend to be Amon's avatar?
他是在假装自己是阿蒙的分身吗？
Adicawida
again, monocles man, scary as sht...
又来了，单片眼镜男，恐怖的一批……
（回复楼上）Dark_Magus
I swear! Gets me every single time!
真的！每一次都能吓坏我！
（回复一楼）Choupi_Master
I will never see monicles the same way ever again
我再也没法像以前一样正常看待单片眼镜了
Observer98
Now even the readers are providing feedback
现在甚至连读者们也可以提供魔药消化反馈了
Je56
Truly God-level acting 😂
真正的神级扮演233333
Skyfiend13
bizarre trolling well done!!! I'm dying in laughter here
这个吓人手法够诡异，好！！！我已经快笑死了
benji210
****
我x
MellowtotheMax
Oh my god 😂😂😂😂😂
我的天啊23333333333
Ukeme_Inyang_0326
Traumatic behavior...
应激行为……
BlackDeathSupreme
someone get this man an oscar award
真的应该来个人给他颁个奥斯卡奖
【索伦.艾因霍恩.梅迪奇的笑容顿时就凝固了。】
aryss
basically everyone is suffering some form of Amon PTSD
基本上所有人都或多或少的有点阿蒙PTSD
LordOfTheMorning
It was at this moment he knew... he fked up...
这个瞬间他立刻意识到……他搞砸了……
【这句话本身就是个表情包常用梗】
Draenaos
hahahahahahaha damn. i'd be scared ****less too.
哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈妈耶。换成是我我肯定也吓到失智。
Ozwin
Hahahahahaha
哈哈哈哈哈哈哈
Anna_94
This ending really fit the ending song of Sherlock holmes series. its really sync in.
这个结尾真的很搭夏洛克·福尔摩斯连续剧的片尾曲。同步率100%。
【说到连续剧，我怀疑说的就是神探夏洛克？】
ozush
priceless
这场景真是无价之宝
Freakzilla
medici: .... r u f*cking kidding me?!?!?!
klein: u think so? 🧐 nah...
梅迪奇：……你特么在跟我开玩笑嘛？？？
克莱恩：你觉得是这样吗？🧐那可不是哦……
Shtriya
damn he did the unexpectedly biggest **** in this novel . he just did bizarre acting with a angel as target. **** he played big this time for acting .
妈的这应该是这本书里他作过最令人意想不到的最大的死了。他刚刚可是把一名天使当做了他扮演诡法师的目标。他这次为了扮演可真是玩的够特么大的。
sugber
No way! What an absolute madlad! He scared a King of Angels ****tless!
不可能！他真是个疯子！他竟然真的吓住了一个天使之王！
Denizen13
This ending was approved by 🧐 gang
本章结尾已通过单片眼镜🧐团队审批
Gengar_The_Fool
HAHAHA.
🤣🤣🤣
AmonRolled...
🤣🤣🤣
Post-Amon-Traumatic-Disorder is REAL...
🤣🤣🤣
哈哈哈哈哈哈哈。阿蒙来了……PATD（阿蒙创伤后综合征）是真的……
【其实就是把PTSD改了一个词】
【1109章（红祭司-163章）耐心】
Daoist_SunFart
That's some hard core trolling. Klein is definitely a keyboard warrior!
这钓鱼可真是太硬核了。克莱恩真不愧是键盘侠！
（回复楼上）Ats
Ikr. He shouldve done that to others aswell. Even gods are wary of Amon 😂
对吧对吧2333他甚至应该对其他人也这么干一波的。甚至连神都有点怕阿蒙233
Vanokkor
Oh, so thats how he's gonna digest part of the potion
哦，所以这就是他消化部分魔药的方式
Tetractys
I wonder if that'll be enough to fully digest the potion. Scaring a former King of Angels is no easy feat, after all!🤣🤣🤣
不知道这是不是够他完全消化魔药了。毕竟要吓唬一个前·天使之王可不是那么容易！
Demoneastz
That's one hell of a way to do 'acting' lmao. Truly a keyboard warrior
这种“扮演”的方式可是太可怕了哈哈哈哈哈。真正的键盘侠
Daoistspritstone
the thrice reckless disease has crossed realms
三浪病已经传播到超越世界了
【修真聊天群的梗。“三浪病”多发于中青年修真人群中，一旦被感染到，就很难被治愈。不管你是八品玄圣还是一品跃凡，只要感染到“三浪病”，意识就会不受控制，开始犯“作”。】
Ozwin
I can’t hahahahaha, he must be pissing himself rofl, excellent scare!
我撑不住了哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈，他肯定把他惹怒了，我笑到把房顶掀翻，这吓人技术简直精湛绝伦！
Aby55
Lmfao! This works as well for digestion?? What a troll
我笑死了！这也能消化吗？？钓鱼带师啊
VoidFang
My heart skipped a beat when Klein put on the monocle, it was scary.
克莱恩戴上单片眼镜的时候我心跳漏了一拍，实在太吓人了。
GoodWithAToaster
😱 🧐
Anteriom
Wtf i never would have even THOUGHT to use Amon like that! Damn i don't ever want klein as an enemy
卧槽，我想都没想过还能用这种方式利用阿蒙！妈耶，我绝对不想要克莱恩这样的人成为我的敌人。
Oddpancakes
Omg that's what trolling is!
我的天啊，这就是真正的钓鱼！
【其实troll这个词更像是“戏耍”和“钓鱼”，但钓鱼在国内的语境似乎已经变了很多，不知道这样形容还适不适当】
Fire_Eternal
If you wanna see a king of gods panic...
如果你想看到神王惊慌失措的话……
Mr_Scary_Cat
The first second I freaked out, the next few minutes I kept smiling and laughing. Klein you freaking troll!!
我看到这段的第一秒吓坏了，接下来的几分钟里我先是微笑然后大笑。克莱恩你真的太会耍人了！！！！
Freakzilla
Klein giving a free lesson in provokation to the provokation god 😏
I swear, if Klein should one day switch sequence (though we all know he won't) he should be a provoker👌🏻 they are scheming, love traps, and dare provoke even the gods. It's a perfect match.
克莱恩这是免费给挑衅之神上了一堂挑衅课啊~
我发誓，如果克莱恩有一天打算转序列的话（虽然我们都知道他不会的），他应该转职成挑衅者~他们爱搞阴谋陷阱，还敢甚至挑衅神明。这简直完美契合他啊。
Adam_Michael_Daw
That ending!!! Oh man, what's going to happen!?
这个结尾！！！哦天啊，接下来会怎么样！？
Mr_Scary_Cat
This is such a power move!
这招可真是太绝了！
l3ee
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
😱🧐
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
sdidelot6982
Lol using the horror of Amon to scare ppl...
哈哈哈哈利用阿蒙的恐怖来吓别人……
Shtriya
Shit🤯 , Damn he trolled king of angel and above that the hunter pathway angel . With this his digestion is for sure . For sec i thought taht NTR king has made his move again . This scared the **** out of me 😅😂😂. Sequence 3 soon.
卧槽，妈耶，他把一个天使之王，还是猎人途径的天使之王耍得团团转。就凭这肯定能消化了。有那么一秒我还以为那个牛头人之王又出手了呢。差点给我屎都吓出来23333序列3马上就到了。
sxfdcgfvhgbjhn
Well, that's a rather suicidal prank. He just finished analyzing how Medici could instakill him. I hope he survives to seek death yet again.
嗯，这可真是个自杀式的恶作剧。他刚分析完梅迪奇能一瞬间就杀掉他，结果就干了这个。我希望他能在这次作死之后再次活下来。
【1110章（红祭司-164章）通“灵”】——本章说
【“我再说一遍，你很有‘挑衅者’的天赋。】
aryss
that is a real compliment coming from the master provoker himself 😎
这可是来自真正的挑衅大师本人的称赞😎
Shtriya
yeah
没错
【“当初查拉图消化‘诡法师’魔药的时候，也没敢在我面前假扮阿蒙。”】
victorkok
Klein is the master in courting the death
克莱恩真是作死大师
ThisDaddy
hahahaha
哈哈哈哈哈哈
shameless
klein may be a sequence 4 but his balls is sequence 0
克莱恩也许只有序列4，但他的胆子可是序列0级别的
Jack_N_Mikhail
Now I need to know which Zaratul he is referring to. The present one, or the previous one that almost became a King of Angels.
现在我就想知道，他说的是哪个查拉图。现在这个，还是之前那个差点成为天使之王的
【看着面前气势内敛却给人位格极高感的“红天使”恶灵，克莱恩忍不住在心里咕哝了几句：要不是刚才“诡法师”魔药有了较大程度的消化，我还真以为你意志如钢，实力恢复到了至少序列1的层次，而现在嘛，我基本可以确认你镇定表现下隐藏的是对阿蒙的强烈畏惧，这也说明你目前的位格顶多序列2……】
desertfox
So it was a probe disguised as a joke. Damn, Klein. Courting death left and right.
所以这可能只是伪装成了一个玩笑的试探而已。妈耶，克莱恩。在作死的边缘左右横跳
（回复楼上）lindatan90
The main objective is still digestion actually...
其实主要目标还是消化啦……
Gengar_The_Fool
Kleinception with AmonRolled...
🤣🤣🤣🧐🧐🧐😋😋😋
克莱恩套娃和阿蒙式抢劫……
【如果达尼兹在这里，让他趁这个机会喊两声“胆小鬼”，那他就算喝了四五瓶“挑衅者”魔药也能很快消化掉……】
axo291
😂😂
desertfox
Yeah, and then he will be dead right after digestion.
是的，然后他消化完了，人也死了
Anna_94
nonono if Daniz do it he will just jump sequence without need drinking the potion. he straigh up Demigod.
不不不如果达尼兹这么干了，他甚至不用喝魔药都能跳序列了。直升半神。
Dark_Magus
More like he will be digested right after😆
不如说更像是他事后会成为被消化的那个吧XD
Asain
bruh lmao
笑死我了老哥
【“我说的是小查拉图。”索伦.艾因霍恩.梅迪奇随口回了一句。】
Jack_N_Mikhail
This is what I wanted to know. Thanks author
我就是想知道这个。感谢作者
【这和伦纳德体内老爷爷的描述一致……克莱恩微不可见地点了点头，转入正题道：“你已经解决了‘白之魔女’？”】
TrTryu
How is Klein aware of their conversation?🤔
克莱恩是怎么知道伦纳德和老爷爷的对话内容的？
【看来“挑衅”并不是只有嘲讽和骂人这么两种方式啊，呃，骂人也只会骂一句的达尼兹简直是猎人之耻……克莱恩边想边开口道：“我已经履行了我的承诺，我想你应该不介意给我一点小小的报酬。”】
SRandom
Dogsh*t
狗*屎
（回复楼上）Manaworkz
🐕 *
lindatan90
Klein is taking notes about "provoking" here 😅
克莱恩这是在对“挑衅”的部分记心得笔记啊233
【“没问题。”索伦.艾因霍恩.梅迪奇抬起右手，抓向自己的眉心，从那里拖出了一条略显模糊的虚幻身影，正是表情茫然残留着恐惧的“白之圣女”卡特琳娜。】
Deadlogic88
THE GLABELLA!!!
是眉心！！！
【六七百章过去了，这个梗大家还记得吗】
Ghizghuth
There it is. The mark of the truly powerful.
就是如此。真正强者的标志。
【“白之魔女”卡特琳娜一脸虔诚地说道：“它与原初的苏醒有关，本身除了位格够高，有‘0’级层次，并不具备什么特殊能力。”】
desertfox
Yo, so Trissy is planning to awaken the Primordial just to deal with George III? I like her guts but she's still evil so I don't care even if she dies.
哟，所以特莉丝计划的是唤醒原初，就为了对付乔治三世？我欣赏她的胆量，但她依然是个坏人，所以哪怕是她死掉了我也不会在乎。
（回复楼上）Dex2
me too
我也
（回复一楼）SendNuds
The goddess took the ring away, Trissy no longer has it
女神拿走了那枚戒指，特莉丝手里已经没有那枚戒指了
（回复一楼）Kioga
Ot might've been part of the 'deal' she made with the Demoness
或者这可能就是她和魔女做的“交易”的一部分
【“事实上不只，因为乔治三世本人很可能也是。”“白之魔女”卡特琳娜诚实回答道，“那两位天使一位是鲁恩王国的创立者，第四纪存活下来的‘保护者’威廉一世，祂是‘仲裁人’途径的序列1‘秩序之手’，另一位是曾经的南威尔公爵，德林克.奥古斯都，祂是‘仲裁人’途径的序列2‘平衡者’……至于王室共有几件‘0’级封印物，我并不清楚。”】
Observer98
Hand of Order is a pretty cool potion name. As expected of a Sequence 1.
秩序之手这个魔药名听起来真是酷。很符合序列1该有的感觉。
【10镑钞票上那位“立国者”还活着？又有种历史走进了现实的感觉……克莱恩结束思索，点了点头，转而问道：“你们为什么要和乔治三世合作？”】
Asain
kek
科科
【“征服者”是“红祭司”途径序列1的魔药名称！】
desertfox
So this must be Medici's goal. Alright.
所以这一定就是梅迪奇的目标了。好吧。
【隔了几秒，穿黑底红纹长袍的索伦.艾因霍恩.梅迪奇和“白之魔女”卡特琳娜一起走出了“镜子”，后者身形清晰，充满血肉之感，一点也没有已经死去的迹象！】
KplormKuts
😞😞such a traitorous evil spirit,I can't believe he connive with the Demoness to deceive Lucien but he'll definitely find out and punish them,I trust our MC!
这个嘴里满是谎言的骗子恶灵，我简直不敢相信他竟然和魔女合谋欺骗了路西恩，但他绝对能发现真相惩罚他们的，我相信我们的主角！
（回复楼上）CenserBearer
Lucien? Lol wrong novel dude
路西恩？哈哈哈哈哈走错书了吧哥们
（回复一楼）lindatan90
I won't say He is traitorous. It's not like He is a subordinate of the mc after all. Be it the evil spirits or Klein, they were just using each other for their own advantage.
我也不会说他这是背叛欺骗什么的。他毕竟也不是主角的下属。不管是这个恶灵还是克莱恩，他们都只是为了各自的利益而利用彼此而已。
Polymyth
WTF??
卧槽？？
Polymyth
I hope Klein is still observing from the grey fog.
希望克莱恩这会还在灰雾之上看着这一切呢。
sugber
We’ve been tricked!
我们都被耍了！
【“但这是不可能成功的事情，就算他提升再快，能得到不少帮助，也没办法对抗王室、军方和那个组织的联手，不，单纯只是奥古斯都家族，以他的层次和实力也没可能撼动，除非黑夜亲自下场。”】
Observer98
You're underestimating our boy. The eventual face slapping is going to be delicious.
你低估我们的男孩了。最后的打脸反转一定会非常令人享受。
desertfox
You just planted a flag right there. Haha.
你这是刚插了个旗啊。哈哈哈哈哈
（回复楼上）Dex2
Exactly! now you made it possible for him to do the impossible
是啊！现在你反而让他有能力把一切不可能变成可能了
Anna_94
Did you know that Evernight is Shotacon she grooming Klein to be the God of seer pathway. never understimated the power of Milf
那你知道黑夜其实是个正太控，而且打算一手培养克莱恩成为占卜家途径之神吗。绝对不要小看辣妈的力量口牙
Tukang_Sampah
I'm coming back from the future to tell you that you have never been more wrong Katarina
我是从未来回来的，这次就是专程来告诉你，卡特琳娜，你错得不能更离谱了
Shtriya
Even his weak enemies are stronger tahn u and others are are under 6 feet or his servents .
甚至连他最弱的敌人都比你要强，剩下的要么是不到6英尺高的小娃娃，要么是他的仆从。
sugber
We’re all going to come back from the future to prove you wrong Katarina!
我们从未来跑回来就是为了证明你大错特错，卡特琳娜！
【“你觉得你有资格成为我真正的目标吗？”】
Christopher_Blase_9814
I love how layered this story is... This author is so talented!
我真是爱这本书的层次感……作者实在是天才！
Anna_94
yoooo didnot demones sect wreck havoc the entire continent in 4 epoch or something. with Death, azik father, The duo so OP that the orthodox gods descend to handle them. dont tell me Medici gonna start another war?, bigger than the current war!!!!?????.
哟，魔女教派不是在第四纪破坏了整个大陆还是怎么的吗。和死神，也就是阿兹克的父亲一起。这两个组合实在是太强了，以至于要七神降临才搞定他们。别告诉我说梅迪奇是想挑起另一场这样的战争吧？比现在的战争规模还要大的那种！！！？？？
（回复楼上）lindatan90
Don't think so. Katarina said that Primordial Demoness is still not in good condition since the Pale Disaster when she met Azik last time. Medici on the other hand, has at most the strength of a seq 2. In order for both to gain more power, they need the hunter pathway characteristics. In other words, they are natural enemy that cannot cooperate without sacrificing of one side.
我不这么觉得。卡特琳娜上次见到阿兹克的时候说原初魔女自从苍白之灾之后状态就不是很好，现在也没恢复。梅迪奇，另一方面，目前最多就序列2强度。对他们俩来说，想要恢复力量，都需要猎人途径的非凡特性。换句话说，他们现在是天然的敌人，除非其中一方死掉，不然是不可能合作的。
CelineXD
very like what Klein does to Tracy😏
和克莱恩对特蕾西做的事情真是相似呢~
sugber
Hunter showdown? Who will kill George III first?
猎人现身了？谁能率先杀掉乔治三世呢？
【1110章（红祭司-164章）通“灵”】
Randompasserby
See, this right here is why you should never trust a freaking Evil Spirit that has authority on Conspiracy to begin with. No matter how comical or non-threatening he seemed.
Kudos for the Klein scaring the **** out of him at the beginning though. 👍🏼😂
Never mind us readers as collateral damage...
看吧，这就是为什么你从一开始就不应该相信一个该死的，掌握着阴谋权柄的恶灵。不管他看起来有多滑稽搞笑，或者有多缺乏威胁性。
向克莱恩致敬，竟然能从一开始就把他差点吓出屎来23333
至于你这招对我们读者造成的友军伤害，不用介意……
Zacc
As expected... he is still excellent at tricking people. I love how consistently and cleverly characters are written in this novel.
果然不出所料……他还是很擅长戏耍别人的。我喜欢这些角色形象在这本小说里表现的一致性和聪明的描写方式。
Tetractys
We can't be too sure how much of the information gleaned from that spirit channelling was true or not. For the sake of simplicity, I'll assume everything was true, but not the whole truth was given.
Klein was closer to the knife's edge than he thinks. Good thing he didn't do anything too out of line.
我们现在还不能确信这次通灵中获得的信息到底有多少是真实的。为了简单起见，我就假设所有东西都是真的吧，但她并没有把所有的真相说出来。
克莱恩这次可远比他想象的还要在刀尖上跳舞一点。还好他目前还没有做太出格的事情
（回复楼上）Dex2
I think Klein didn't trust the red spirit either despite how much of a convincing act it out up
我觉得克莱恩也没有完全信任红恶灵，虽然他表演得似乎很真实一样
CrimsonMoon
Didn't Klein speculate that the Loen Royal family gave a sequence 1 characteristic of the Red Priest pathway to the Demoness Sect in exchange for their help? Medici is probably aiming for that characteristic to help himself recover no? 'He' probably wants to negotiate with the demoness sect and you can't negotiate if you killed their saintess of white.
克莱恩不是推测说鲁恩王室用了一个序列1红祭司途径特性，向魔女教派换取了她们的帮助吗？梅迪奇也许就是想要用那个特性来帮助自己回复？不是这样吗？“祂”也许是想要和魔女教派谈判，但如果你杀了他们的白之圣女，肯定就谈不成了。
（回复楼上）Blazss
Probably he's using Saintess White to glean information to their Sect.
也许他是想利用白之圣女给他搜集她们教派的情报。
（回复一楼）lindatan90
He is definitely after the seq 1 Conqueror characteristic. But I don't think He plans to negotiate. When it comes to characteristics of nearby pathways, it's almost non-negotiable. Even the God of Combat doesn't plan to negotiate with Evernight when it comes to Death Uniquenes and characteristics. So how could an evil spirit with at most seq 2 level has chance of success negotiation with seq 0 Primordial Demoness?
他绝对是冲着那个序列1征服者特性去的。但我不觉得他的计划是想谈判。一旦涉及到临近途径的特性，这几乎是没得谈的。事情涉及到死亡途径的唯一性和特性的时候，甚至连战神也不打算和黑夜谈判。所以这个顶多序列2的恶灵哪有和序列0原初魔女谈判成功的资本呢？
ThisDaddy
Klein scared him, He tricked Klein. What a show.
克莱恩吓了他一下，他耍了克莱恩一把。真是一场大戏。
BrokenMortal
How much you want to beat that Klein is above the grey fog watching this interaction?
有多少人想赌克莱恩在灰雾之上看到了这场互动全过程的？
Demoneastz
Oh my-- For the Fool's sake, this is unexpected. What Kind of conspiracy this evil spirit is plotting
哦我的——愚者啊，这真是万万没想到。这个恶灵到底在策划什么阴谋
AKirchner
One of the reasons why I like this novel is that his opponents are smart and decesive as well.
我喜欢这本书的原因之一就是，他的对手也和他一样地聪明狡诈。
【1111章（红祭司-165章）扑克大师】
Demoneastz
" Even a dog might open the gates to angelhood after living for more than a thousand years." Whoops, He just jinxed it. Susie would be a demigod soon, like less than a thousand-year I bet
“就算是一条狗，活上一千多年，说不定都已经推开了那扇门，成为了天使。”哎呦，这阴阳怪气的。苏茜马上就能成为半神了，我打赌这时间肯定比一千年少得多
（回复楼上）CrimsonMoon
Just imagine the look on her face when she meets Susie later on in the story after Susie becomes a Saint hahaha~ 😂
想象一下如果之后的剧情里，在苏茜成为圣者之后她遇上了苏茜的场面，那她的脸色得有多好看哈哈哈哈哈~
（回复一楼）Krader
When she meets saint susie attempting to become an Angel it will really make her feel depressed...
等她发现圣者苏茜正在试着冲击天使的时候，她大概会直接抑郁吧……
DeadSoul262
It's really enjoyable reading an angel level provoker provoking another provoker angel. It's provokception. :)/
看到一个天使级挑衅者挑衅另一个挑衅天使，实在太令人愉悦了。这就是挑衅套娃。:)
（回复楼上）Slesk
Who's provoking powers are greater some keyboard boi who got isekai'd or an angel level figure who was once at the peak of his pathway? lol my bets on keyboard boi =D
究竟谁的挑衅能力更强一些呢，是某个穿越键盘侠boy，还是曾经在他的途径登顶过的前·天使级大人物？哈哈哈哈哈我押我们的键盘侠boy=D
Randompasserby
Oh. OH!!!
We've known previously that the Beings at or near the Highest Sequence could have an effect on the general traits of the whole Pathway via backwards propagation.
And now we can confirm the twistedness of the Demoness Pathway comes from the Primordial "Herself". It doesn't necessarily have to be this way... like the Temperance Faction trying to pull the Prisoner Pathway to their preferred ideal, theoretically so could you do that with the Assassin pathway 🤔.
I mean, the domains of Beauty, Pleasure and who knows what else are such a shame to be bonded constantly with Evil y'know 😅
哦。哦！！！！
之前我们已经知道，接近或者身处最顶级序列的存在可以通过反向传播对整个途径的普遍特性施加影响。
现在我们实锤的是，魔女途径的这种扭曲性都是来自原初魔女“祂”本人。她们不是非得用这种方式的……就像是节制派试图将囚犯途径拉回他们理想的生存形态一样，理论上来说对刺客途径也是可以做到的。
我的意思是，美丽和欢愉的领域和权柄，还有不知道什么的其他东西，都被一直和邪恶的存在绑定在一起，这也太可惜了……
（回复楼上）Dr_SaltedFish
Technically if you managed to prop someone like Shermane into seq 0, maybe... But... The potion names are not very positive to being with... Unfortunately, the entire line is just kinda fked. What primordial is doing is probably the norm, but her purposefully getting men to unwillingly turn into woman/getting stuck in the same circumstances as her (as mentioned by Medici, passing down the karma and getting a hoot out of it) is a very **** move on top of her entire existence.
技术上来说，如果你打算把某个像雪曼这样的人拉到序列0，也许……但……她们的魔药名听起来也不是特别的积极向上啊……不幸的是，这一整条途径都有点糟糕。原初做的事情也许只是她们的常态，但她有意识地把男人在不情愿的情况下变成女人/让他们和她一样卡在这种尴尬的境地里（就像梅迪奇提到的那样，把这种报应一代又一代的传下去，从中获取乐趣），这对于一个像她这样的顶尖存在来说真的是一种非常恶心的举动。
Sollkiri
They got bamboozled by an adept cheater. Among all pathway sequences, the Fool's group is one of the most deadliest and holds the tittle of the greatest cheaters, cowards and tricksters. Never fight them in their own game.
他们都被一个资深骗子给骗了。所有途径的序列里，愚者这个组合就是其中最致命的一个，还握着最强欺诈者，最怂和最会搞小伎俩的名号。绝对不要和他们在他们的优势局里作战。
ResidentialPsycho
My theory about all of the Demoness Sect members being former men has proven true this chapter. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. Lmao! Those poor unsuspecting assassin Beyonders...
我之前关于所有魔女教派的成员之前都是男的的理论在这章被证实了。每。一。个。成。员。哈哈哈哈哈哈！这些可怜的刺客非凡者们，真是毫无防备……
Blazss
Teleportation nexus... an apprentice pathway mostly do that! Mr. Door?!
传送节点……基本上都是由学徒途径的人做的吧！门先生？！
Tetractys
I wonder if there's an expiration date for blood when it comes to Groselle's Travels. If Tracy's blood still works, what's the "time limit" before it becomes ineffective? Otherwise, what about ancient bloodstains? Could he just scrape some dried pieces off, maybe re-liquify it? 🤔🤔🤔
不知道对于格罗塞尔游记来说，血液有没有保质期啥的？如果特蕾西的血液还能用的话，那它失效的“时间限制”又是什么呢？如果没有的话，那古代留下的血液痕迹又会怎么样呢？他能不能直接把一些干掉的血迹刮下来，也许加点水重新把它变成液体？
（回复楼上）Bouletcorp
I wonder what would happen if the drop of blood from the mutated sun sacred emblem (blood from the Eternal Blazing Sun) were to be put on the book 🤔
不知道如果那滴变异太阳圣徽里面的血（永恒烈阳的神血）被放进书里会怎样
（回复楼上）Dex2
I believe the God can resist such an influence of being pulled in.
我相信神明应该是能抵抗这种被拉进去的效果的。
（回复一楼）desertfox
I don't think there's an expiration date. Klein was even able to pull the mummy inside Groselle's Travel.
我觉得应该没有什么有效期吧。克莱恩甚至能用这个把木乃伊拉进格罗塞尔游记里
（回复一楼）Dex2
No, once the blood runs out of spirituality, it can't be used. Spirituality is produced by living stuff - mainly cells (If I put it in a simple manner). Once they are all dead, it will no longer work. Good thing is the Gray fog can prevent stuff from losing its spirituality
不，一旦这滴血里面的灵性耗尽了，那就不能用了。灵性是活着的东西才能产生的——主要是细胞（如果简化描述一下的话是这样）。一旦它们都死光了，那就没办法用了。但好消息是，灰雾可以防止物体的灵性流失
Seion_Ozora
If this is a manhua chapter, I imagine Katarina would get stabbed by so many arrows/speech bubble 🤣
如果这一章变成漫画的话，我想象中的卡特琳娜会被无数个对话框伸出的箭头万箭穿心，哈哈哈哈
【1112章（红祭司-166章）旅行笔记】
Zacc
Mr Door is really enigmatic. Could someone who appears to have the strength of a King of Angels really be stuck? Is he going to be the herald of the apocalypse or what?
门先生还真是神秘啊。一个看起来真的有天使之王级别实力的存在，难道真能被困住这么久吗？他会不会成为那个世界末日的预兆呢？
（回复楼上）lindatan90
If the combined strength of two seq 0s are not enough to seal a seq 1, what else will? Also, it's not like He has absolutely no way out. He just need some help from the outside. He used to ask Roselle to provide Him some help so that He can return.
如果两个序列0合力还不能封印住一个序列1，那还有什么存在可以呢？而且，他看起来也不像是完全没办法脱困。他只是需要一些外界力量的帮助。他之前一直要求罗赛尔帮他出去来着。
Tetractys
Those negative effects at the end don't correspond to what Klein discovered about the Unshadowed Crucifix. I'm guessing that these effects are the result of the sequence four Unshadowed characteristic and the domain of Afternoon Town/Giant King's Court.
最后这些负面影响和克莱恩发现的无暗十字架不相符。我猜这些效果应该是序列4无暗者特性遇到了下午镇/巨人王的王庭区域之后发生的异变。
（回复楼上）Randompasserby
Hmm I'm more inclined to think the negative effect is from the Terrain itself rather than the Unshadowed Crucifix 🤔
The Giant's Pathway powers and themes seem to correspond to either Dawn or Twilight so far and I'm guessing we're seeing the Twilight part now
唔，我更倾向于认为这是这片区域自身自带的负面效果，而不是无暗十字架的原因
目前巨人途径的力量和主题似乎都和黄昏或者暮色有关，所以我猜我们现在看到的应该是暮色部分效果
（回复楼上）Dex2
I'm also thinking it's twilight. The description is that it is in an eternal dust. It would make sense why it seems to be restricting one who is "sunshine"
我也觉得这是暮色的效果。它的描述本来就说这里是永恒的黄昏。这也同样能解释为什么这里似乎在抗拒那些代表着“阳光”的东西。
Ats
And so the shepherd brought her lambs into the twilight.. what would happen I wonder?
所以牧羊人把她的羊羔们带到了黄昏之中……不知道接下来会发生什么？
CelineXD
love to see more small horror stories of Fors!🤪
超级期待看到更多佛尔思的短篇恐怖故事了！
Gopher
*Klein drops Fors in a pirate town*
Fors: *writes Yaoi and Yuri Pirates of the Caribbean*
*克莱恩把佛尔思带到了一个海盗城镇*
佛尔思：*开始写加勒比海盗的乙女/百合故事*
AKirchner
Klein, what have you done to these poor pirates? Or should I say Creeping Hunger?
克莱恩，你都对这些可怜的海盗们做了些什么啊？或者我应该说蠕动的饥饿？
ResidentialPsycho
With The Fool peeping on them, Sun and his comrades will have a much safer journey than they otherwise would. No more tricky Ouroboros time-loop traps!
既然有愚者一直在偷窥他们的旅程，太阳和他的同志们这次的旅途应该会安全得多了。乌洛琉斯那些难搞的时间循环陷阱再也伤不着他们了！
【1113章（红祭司-167章）强大的看守者】
Tetractys
Derrick Berg lights the way
With a beacon, guides them
Under watchful Foolish eyes
In the dark, forsaken
Come the day, burning bright
Cast away the darkness
Pass the torch, old to young
From the dream, awaken
戴里克·伯格照亮了道路
用他手中的灯塔，指引着他们
在愚者的注视目光下
前行于黑暗的神弃之地
来把，明亮的、燃烧的日光
请将这黑暗一扫而空
火炬由老者传到青年手中
也将从梦中醒来
Zacc
If those Silver Knights have beyonder characteristics they would be quite useful to kill..
如果这些银骑士身上都有非凡特性的话，那他们就太有用了，值得一杀……
Anna_94
THE SUN POWR IS LIMITLESS, LIMITLESS!!!!
太阳的力量是无限的，无限的！！！！
（回复楼上）SaintBookwormLich
But only thebLord of Mysteries could guide it: Praise The Fool!!
但只有诡秘之主可以引领这力量：赞美愚者！！！
ResidentialPsycho
Little Sun is like a lantern leading the way.
小太阳简直像个引路的灯笼一样。
【1114章（红祭司-168章）残留的意志】
SRandom
So the Giant King's parent were normal humans who probably got contaminated by something.
所以巨人王的父母就是普通人类，可能被什么东西污染了。
（回复楼上）Zacc
... and he wanted to keep that a secret... the implications of that are potentially world shaking.. What are giants then? Just mutations caused by beyonder characteristics?
…而且他还想保守这个秘密…这其中的蕴意可能会震惊整个世界…那巨人们到底是什么？只是非凡特性导致的变异吗？
ResidentialPsycho
This makes me wonder if humans were first and elves, giants, etc. were created from them.
这让我开始思考，如果其实先产生的是人类，精灵，巨人，等等等等的种族都是在人类的基础上被创造的呢。
Ats
So pa and ma are not giants.. maybe the giant king was picked up somewhere 😂
所以爹妈都不是巨人…也许巨人王是从不知道哪里捡来的23333
Tetractys
I wonder what use these skeletons could have. Any beyonder characteristics would've long been pillaged.
不知道这些骸骨有什么用处。任何非凡特性肯定都早就被拿走了。
（回复楼上）elm_in_eden
It's probably just Amon or Adam confirming the history.
应该只是阿蒙或者亚当过来确认历史的时候挖的。
（回复楼上）CelineXD
i bet it's amon who has lurking in the forsaken land for a very long time!
我打赌是阿蒙，他很早以前就潜伏在神弃之地了！
【1115章（红祭司-169章）王庭内部】
Main_Def
I feel that this kind of confirmed what I was feeling since Klein saw the cocoons.
He didn't transmigrate and he is still on Earth.
However, he an Roselle are from before the First Epoch.
我感觉这某种意义上证实了我的感觉，自从克莱恩看到那些光茧的时候我就感觉不对。
他并没有穿越，这里还是地球。
然而，他和罗赛尔都是来自第一纪的人。
（回复楼上）Nihilum
So is this before civilization or after Klein's time ? Cos if it's after, it will be a fallout type situation with ruins, pollution and relics everywhere.
The bit with the cosmos and moon suggests that it is simply another galaxy
所以这是在文明诞生之前的纪元还是在克莱恩原本的时代之后？因为如果是之后的话，那现在的情况应该是辐射系列那种情况的废土，遍地都是废土，污染和遗迹什么的。
但星空和月球的情况都表明这里应该只是另一个星系而已。
（回复一楼）Alessan
Different geography, no ruins of modern cities, different colored moon. Doesn’t seem very likely.
地理环境不一样，也没有现代文明的废墟，月亮的颜色也不一样。看起来可能性不大。
（回复楼上）elm_in_eden
Depends on how long it's been. All three could change with enough time, geography could shift, cities crumble, and the sun would age and change. Though I agree it's not the most likely option. It would need a really really long time, and an older sun would have all kinds of changes to the environment, which has never been mentioned.
但这都取决于到底时间过去了多久。只要时间够长，这三者都可能发生变化，地理会改变，城市会崩塌，甚至太阳也是会衰老和变化的。虽然我也同意，这个可能性不太大。这些过程需要的时间实在是太长太长了，一个衰老的太阳应该会对环境造成各种影响变化，但文中从来没有提过这些事情。
【讲道理，太阳要衰老到红巨星阶段也要四五十亿年，这个时间跨度已经太长了……】
（回复楼上）errantsystems
I'm fairly certain the sun will increase in luminosity enough to kill everything on Earth before it becomes red enough to result in a red moon, and yeah feel like Klein would have noticed if the sun was red or if the moon was just a differently-colored Earth moon (note the moon isn't geologically active so it's not gonna look different). This is the author of Throne of Magical Arcana so I doubt scientific aspects like this would be completely overlooked.
我非常确信太阳在变得足够红，导致月亮也变成红色之前，它的亮度增加程度绝对足以杀死任何地球上的生物了，而且，是的，如果太阳变红了或者月亮只是一个换了个颜色的地球月亮的话，克莱恩应该能察觉到（需要注意的是，月亮不属于地理活动的一部分，所以它看起来应该不会有变化）。这可是奥术王座的作者，所以我觉得这种科学方面的设定应该不会被简单忽视掉。
（回复三楼）Zacc
Also aren't there multiple moons?
而且这里不是有好几个月亮吗？
（回复三楼）Jackattack
Also this world has no oil, which suggests no fossil record. It seems like a much younger world. And ya know.. it has literal gods in it.
而且这个世界没有石油，这意味着这个世界没有化石记录。看起来似乎是个年轻得多的世界。而且你懂的……这里可是有货真价实的神存在啊。
（回复楼上）errantsystems
Well, it has coal, so it can't be too young (and must be geologically active). Generally oil is less accessible (aka deeper/less deposits on land) than coal though, due to how it forms. I can't remember if they said how they mine coal, but maybe it's just whoever goes too deep gets corrupted or something? We know that knowledge can corrupt, so it would kinda make sense if "no oil" = "actually there's oil but you can't talk about it".
嗯，但这里有煤，所以不可能太年轻（而且地理上的变化应该很活跃）。一般来说石油会比煤更难获取（更深/陆地上的存量更少），因为它的形成方式的问题。我不记得他们有没有说过他们开采煤矿的方式了，但也许他们说过只要往地下去的更深就会被污染还是什么的？我们都知道，某些信息和知识可以污染人，所以如果“没有石油”=“其实有石油，但是不能谈论的知识”的话，这也说得通。
（回复楼上上）Ats
Maybe the skeletons there are not carbon-based 😁
也许这里的骨头都不是碳基生物的~
（回复楼上）Jackattack
lol if so... I frankly have no idea what that would imply! It would be interesting though.
哈哈哈哈如果真是这样……我真是完全不知道这能暗示出什么！不过听起来挺有意思的
（回复楼上）Ats
All living beings are carbon-based.
If somehow they get high pressure (like being under megatonnes of earth like) & high heat over a long time (millions of years), they will form other carbon-based material but with different molecule structure such as coal, oil, and natural gases.
Different raw material & treatment (pressure, heat & time) will make coal/oil quality differs. For example, coal with blacker color will generate more heat than coal with lighter (brown) color.
所有的生物都是碳基的。
在高压条件（就像是被埋在百万吨级的地表下）还有高温条件下很长时间（几百万年）的话，他们会形成其他类型的碳基物质，但分子结构有所不同，比如煤炭，室友，还有天然气。
不同的原料和不同的条件（压力，温度和时间）都会导致煤炭/石油的品质不同。举个例子，颜色比较黑的煤炭相比颜色比较浅（偏棕）的煤炭，燃烧时放出的热量更高。
（回复楼上）Ats
But then again, this novel's world has gas and coal, but no oil. Its strange because, to make it simple, gas-oil-coal are same material with different phase gas-liquid-solid. They have different phases only because they have different amount of carbon chain.
Well its a fantasy world. Lets leave chemistry out of it haha.
但话又说回来，这本小说的世界里有天然气和煤炭，但没有石油。这非常奇怪，因为，简单来说，气-油-煤其实都是同一种物质，只是存在的形态不同，是气体-液体-固体罢了。它们的形态不同仅仅是因为其中的含碳链数量不同而已。
嗯，但这是个幻想世界对吧。所以我们就还是把化学扔开不谈吧，哈哈。
（回复楼上）Jackattack
But the thing is the author clearly is a big fan of science, biology, physics, chemistry and math. If you've read Throne of Magical Arcana, the authors first novel, it is basically all about science past the first 100 chapters or so. So the fact that oil specifically is missing while coal and gas exist should be intentional. I'm just not sure why lol.
但问题是，作者显然是个科学，生物，物理，化学还有数学的爱好者。如果你看过他的奥术王座的话，也就是作者的第一本书，那本书基本上在前100章内全都是和科学有关的东西。所以唯独石油这种物质消失了，但煤炭和天然气还存在，这种现象绝对是故意的。我只是不清楚具体的原因到底是什么23333
（回复楼上上）Sinfish
In general, coal will never turn into oil, and oil will never turn into coal, but they both will turn into natural gas given sufficient heat, pressure, and time.
Oil is pretty much exclusively formed fairly deep, but not too deep underwater and is made of creatures in marine sediments.
It requires sufficient life which isn't found in deep ocean, but also requires anoxic environments which can't be found in shallow water.
Oil being found on land is all land that was formerly underwater.
Coal but no oil might suggest a lack of tectonic activity in this world preventing coasts from significantly shifting. Or perhaps a lifeform eats oil, or even some sort of cthulhu monstrosity is consuming it.
Plus, it may be that oil exists, but for some reason it can't get close enough to the surface to be exploited by their level of industrial-age technogy.
一般来说，煤炭是永远也不可能变成石油的，石油也永远不可能变成煤炭，但它们都可以在一定的热量，压力和时间条件下变成天然气。
石油几乎都是在相当深的地方生成的，但在水下的话就不会有那么深，而且都是由海洋沉积物中的生物尸体形成的。
它需要有足够多的生物，但这在深海是没有的，但同时它又需要有缺氧的环境，这种环境在浅海又是找不到的。
在陆地上发现的石油说明这里之前都是处于水下的陆地。
有煤炭但却没有石油，这可能说明这个世界缺乏地质构造活动，使得海岸线没有特别剧烈的移动。或者也许是某种存在以石油为食，或者甚至是某种克苏鲁怪物之类的存在把石油都吃光了。
另外，也有可能石油其实是存在的，但出于某种原因，它们的位置无法离地表太近，无法被他们目前的工业时代科技水平所开发。
（回复三楼）Demoneastz
Something must have happened for there are no more ruins of modern cities, right? It's not like we got to see Atlantis ruins. Geography might have changed a lot for all those years like there are godly beings out there popping out and doing high-level battles that equal to nuclear warfare. Moon colour is different? I guess this is had to do with mysticism, Mr Door hinted to Roselle that everything would make sense once He went to the moon. Roselle must have seen something up there, something that made Him realise that He is still on the same planet. Lots of possibilities. I like this novel even more!
这里没有现代都市的遗迹，所以肯定是发生了什么事，对吧？这可不像是我们能看到亚特兰蒂斯的遗迹什么的。地理上来说，这么多年过去的确有可能变化很大，毕竟这里还冒出来一堆神级的存在，高序列的战斗和核打击没什么不同。月亮的颜色不一样？我猜这个应该和神秘学有关，门先生暗示过罗赛尔，一旦他登月一次，一切就都明白了。罗赛尔肯定在那里看到了一些东西，一些让他意识到他依然身处于同一座星球的东西。可能性实在是太多了。我越来越喜欢这本书了！
CelineXD
is there anyone connecting this chapter with Attack on Titan?🤣
Giants, originated from humans, some with intelligence while some without because of different results brought by beyonder characteristics.
Giant King kept his intelligence as well as memory, hr became the King but had to keep it as a secret even from his wife and son. He felt guilty because he let the race to slave humans?
I wonder if how many supernatural species are actually originated from humans. And i think it's a possible explanation that 2nd epoch is when quasi human fight against mutants until ASG ended it and probably opened the tombs to make confirmation?
Since Lovia is calm about this, and she's backed by TC. did TC told her before this exploration like Fool's suggestion to Derrick?
有没有其他人（也和我一样）把这一章和《进击的巨人》联系在一起了的？
巨人，其原始人类，有些有智慧有些没有，因为非凡特性造成的效果不同。
巨人王一直保有着智力和记忆，他成为了王，但不得不保守这个秘密，甚至是向他的妻子和儿子。他一直感受到罪恶感，因为他让自己的种族就这么奴役人类？
不知道这个世界里到底有多少超自然种族其实都是起源于人类的。而且我感觉这很可能是个合理的解释：第二纪泛人类种族和异种战斗的时代是被远古太阳神终结的，他可能打开了这个墓穴来确认真相？
既然洛薇雅对这件事情表现得很冷静，而且她背后就是真实造物主。那是真实造物主提前告诉了她这些吗，就像愚者对戴里克提的建议一样？
Tetractys
Who knows what kind of traps lay in wait, guarding a true divine kingdom?
谁知道在前方，这片真正的神国中，等待着他们的会是什么样的陷阱？
hsbhassan
Well, for those arguing about Oil.... it's been thousands of years and the corpse of the King's parents can still be identified. Maybe the decomposition has been effected and thus normal sense cannot be applied....
I am guessing they were normal humans...
呃，关于各位有关石油的争论……这都几千年了，巨人王父母的尸体现在还是可以辨认。也许这个世界的分解效率被影响了，所以没法用常理来判断……
我猜他们之前应该都是普通人类……
【1116章（红祭司-170章）熟悉的注视】
Tetractys
Two down just like that. Derrick needs to be extra careful.
两个人就这么死了。戴里克真的得格外小心一些。
Mapaglarong_Haraya
A table for a conspiracy against God....blasphemous angels...
一桌子的密谋针对神明的渎神天使……
Aby55
Poor Joshua! And oh ****....why is that table so familiar? The original palace of The Fool? Did Klein subconsciously create a copy of the originally transmigrators palace? How and why?
可怜的约修亚！还有，哦我擦……为什么这张桌子看起来如此熟悉？是愚者原来的宫殿吗？克莱恩是不是无意识地创造了一个和原本的穿越者一模一样的宫殿？怎么做到的，为什么呢？
（回复楼上）Ozwin
It could also have something to do with the era in which it was created, or moving in the opposite direction, this place could be more likely modeled after the one above the gray fog.
The gray fog appears to have something to do with whatever lies below(which I think also has something to do with the cosmos if I interpreted that correctly) based on what Arrodes has said in the past about how Klein feels to him. Given that even gods are hesitant or fearful of what lies beyond or below this world (again some wordings have confused me a bit but I think it is all related or the same), this otherworldly stuff (and likely the gray fog by extension) appear to be older than most gods and perhaps even this world itself depending on how heavily the author takes inspiration from a certain mythos.
This has kinda bothered me more and more ever since we learned a bit more about the mother tree of desire because from how I understood that it isn’t a traditional god. Perhaps the reason it is so interested in Klein is that it feels a kinship with his power. With as much as the seer, marauder, and apprentice pathway group has been mentioned as a collective when the grey fog pops up, particularly in Roselle’s stuff, perhaps it would support the powers of anyone from those three pathways and maybe eventually give increasing access to the neighboring ones which I think has been hinted at with those worms he got from our marauder acquaintances and the charms he made from them. Maybe the gray fog isn’t meant to guide Klein to be a more traditional god, but perhaps one more like the mother tree of desire. I could very likely be reaching though.
So tldr I think the giant king is far more likely to have based this place on Klein’s or perhaps places related to Klein’s than the other way around.
这也有可能和它被创造的时代有关，或者反过来说，这个地方更可能是以灰雾之上的空间为原型制造出来的。
根据阿洛德斯之前所说的他对克莱恩的感觉，灰雾似乎和它下面的东西有关（如果我理解得没错的话，我认为也和星空有关）。考虑到即使是神也对这个世界之外或者地下的东西感到犹豫或恐惧（这里同样有些措辞让我有点困惑，但我觉得这些东西之间应该都是互相关联的，或者就是同一种东西），这种异界的东西（很可能是灰雾的延伸）似乎比大多数神，甚至可能是这个世界本身更古老，这就取决于作者从某种神话故事中获得多少灵感了。
自从我们对欲望母树有了更多的了解之后，这个点就越来越让我在意了，因为从我的理解来看，欲望母树并不是一个传统的神。也许它之所以对克莱因这么感兴趣，是因为它觉得克莱恩和它的力量有一种亲缘关系。再加上之前提过预言家、偷盗者和学徒途径是一个互换组，同时还点出了灰雾，尤其是这还是在罗赛尔日记里面提的，所以也许灰雾会为这三个途径的任何一条的力量提供支援，也许最后甚至还可以给他提供更多的对临近途径的干涉能力。这一点我觉得从克莱恩获得的那些偷盗者途径的虫子上已经有所暗示了，还有他用这些虫子做的符咒。也许灰雾并不是为了引导克莱因成为一个那种传统意义上的神，而是也许一个更像欲望母树的神。不过我也很可能是在瞎扯。
太长不看版总结：我认为巨人王这个地方更像是基于克莱恩那个地方而建造的，或者是和克莱恩那个地方有关的，而不是反过来的关系。
（回复一楼）Mapaglarong_Haraya
that's the dusk gathering of the rose redemption where the True Creator is born
这是救赎蔷薇的黄昏聚会，真实造物主诞生的地方
（回复一楼）Whatareulookingat
Thats the dusk palace. It has no relation with the palace above the gray fog. The table was familiar because of the number of seats and how they were arranged. It also has nothing to do with the gray fog. Hell, even i have a similar table in my house.
这是黄昏宫殿。这个宫殿和灰雾之上宫殿没有关系。这张桌子看着眼熟是因为座位的数量和他们排排坐的方式很像。和灰雾也没有关系。天啊，甚至我家都有一张类似的长桌好吗。
（回复楼上）Demoneastz
LMAO IKR seems like he is brain-cooked by this current arc
哈哈哈哈对吧，看起来他似乎被这一章搞得脑袋短路了已经
（回复一楼）SRandom
Possibly the palace of the previous Fool
可能是前任愚者的宫殿
（回复楼上）Whatareulookingat
Thats improbable. Since the dusk palace was built by the giants, it has nothing to do with the gray fog. It is just like the city that the dragon of imagination created. Nothing to do with the gray fog.
If someone has evidences or clues that they have a relation please comment on my comment so that i can read.
那是不可能的。既然黄昏宫殿是巨人们建的，那就和灰雾没有关系了。就像是空想之龙建造的那个城市一样，这和灰雾无关。
如果有人有证据或者线索能证明它们和灰雾有关的话，请直接回复我这条评论，这样我就能看到了。
ResidentialPsycho
Now that this place is lively, it's somehow much creepier than when everything was simply dead and silent.
现在这里热闹起来了，但不知为何，比起一开始一片死寂的时候，这样反而要更毛骨悚然得多。
