【龙腾网】据传，2020年的iPhone不会有充电器和耳机了
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This year’s new iPhones might not have as much in the box as you’re used to. According to well-connected analyst Ming-chi Kuo, Apple is planning to stop including a power adapter and EarPods in the box with 2020 models, and will even remove the power adapter from the new iPhone SE’s packaging later this year. Kuo’s research note was reported on by AppleInsider, MacRumors, and 9to5Mac.
本年度的iPhone的盒子里可能不像往常那样、有那么多东西了。根据著名分析师郭明琪称，苹果计划停止在2020款手机的包装盒中配备电源适配器和耳机，甚至计划在今年晚些时候从新款iPhone SE的包装中移除电源适配器。AppleInsider、MacRumors和9to5Mac都报道了郭的研究报告。
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Apple is attempting to offset the cost increases that come with upgrading the iPhone range to 5G, according to Kuo. Smaller packaging would be more eco-friendly and also reduce shipping costs, since more phones could fit into a single shipment. (Encouraging more sales of AirPods can’t hurt, either.)
据郭称，苹果正试图抵消iPhone升级到5G所带来的成本增加。更小的包装会更环保，也能降低运输成本，因为一次运输可以装载更多的手机了（也可以鼓励销售更多的AirPods的，这样也没有啥坏处。）
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Right now Apple includes EarPods with all iPhones, a 5W USB-A adapter with the 11 and SE, and an 18W USB-C adapter with the 11 Pro and 11 Pro Max. Last year’s inclusion of the 18W charger came after years of widespread complaints regarding the slow 5W adapter, so it would be surprising to see it disappear so quickly. It’s not clear, however, whether that will be the case across the whole iPhone line.
现在，所有的iPhone都包含了一个EarPods耳机，iPhone11和iPhoneSE中带有一个5瓦的充电器，iPhone11 Pro和11 Pro Max则配有一个18瓦的USB-C充电器。那个龟速的5瓦充电器已经被广泛抱怨了多年，去年苹果终于引入了18瓦充电器。然而如此之短的时间里、这个充电器就消失了，这将是令人惊讶的。不过，目前还不清楚iPhone的整个系列是否都会出现这种情况。
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Separately, Apple is said to be developing a new 20W fast charger that will come alongside new iPad models. Kuo believes a 10.8-inch iPad is coming at some point this year, with an 8.5-inch iPad mini set for the first half of 2021. These iPads will apparently come with the new 20W charger, which will otherwise be available as a separate purchase for iPhone owners.
另外，据说苹果正在开发一款新的20W快充，它将与新的iPad型号一同推出。郭明琪认为，今年某个时候，10.8英寸的iPad将会面世，8.5英寸的iPad mini将于2021年上半年面世。显然，这些ipad将配备新的20W充电器，否则iPhone用户也可以单独购买。
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评论翻译
zedx79
No EarPods? Yeah I can see that. No charger and usb cable? Courage.
没有耳机？是的，我预料到了，但是没有充电器和USB数据线？勇气可嘉！
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NigelTufnel
If they change Lightning to USB-C, I’d be a lot more OK with it.
如果他们将lightning接口换成USB-C，给会更满意一些。
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FORESEE
iPhone will never have USB-C. Let that dream die. Port-less is its next step.
iPhone永远都不会有USB-C接口，死了这条心把，接下来就是无接口了。
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Novotus
They’ll have to switch to USB-C unless the portless phone is ready for this fall. The EU has a new law that requires all phones to use USB-C in an effort to reduce e-waste.
他们必须切换到USB-C接口，除非今年秋天就能有无接口的iPhone。欧盟有一项新法律，要求所有手机都要使用USB-C接口，以减少电子垃圾。
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Ualdazan
The phrase ‘if they include the charger, you’d have no choice but pay for it’ makes it sound like somehow we are going to see a price cut equal to what it would cost to get a power supply. We all know that isn’t how it works. Instead what happens is they will continue to charge you whatever they think you will pay, and their profit margins will be higher.
“如果他们配了充电器，那么你别无选择，只能为之付钱…”,
这句话让人觉得，不知何故，我们将看到与充电器成本相等的降价？我们都知道，事情可不是这样的，相反，苹果将继续向你收取他们认为你会支付的任何费用，他们的利润率还会更高。
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Intosh
Why would you expect a price cut?! Makes no sense. You are getting a phone with newer tech. You could expect a price cut if they sold you the exact same phone but without the charger. But the new phone is a different phone.
You have TWO of many variables affecting the price here — X the phone and Y the charger. Both variables change and are independent from each other.
你为什么会期待降价？这说不通，你得到的是一部充满新科技的手机。如果他们卖给你的是一部一样的手机、但没有充电器，你可以期待降价，但新款手机是一款不同的手机呀。
有两个影响价格的变量，X是手机本身，Y是充电器，两个变量都是变化的，彼此是独立的。
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Smartyflix
That makes sense though. When you’re only charging $700 for your phone you have to cut corners somewhere…
说得有点道理，当你的手机只卖700美元时，你就必须偷工减料了。
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Turbofrog
This is a weird time for technology, when I legitimately cannot tell if you are being facetious or not. "Only charging $700" still feels like a bizarro phrase when $300 phones are so amazing these days.
这对于科技界来说、是一个奇怪的时代，我无法判断你是否在开玩笑，当300美元的手机都如此惊人的时候，你说“只卖700美元”？我感觉这是一句很离奇的话。
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Tekon
While yes they’re probably cheap to manufacture, including it with the phone increases the box size and therefore increases shipping costs by probably a good deal. Smaller boxes mean more phones can be shipped at a time thus reducing costs.
是的，虽然这玩意造起来很便宜，但放在包装盒里、会增加盒子的尺寸，因此会大幅增加运输成本，更小的盒子、意味着一次可以运输更多的手机，从而降低成本。
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Marv89
And 5$ saved on a device that is sold 10million times is 50million $
一部手机省5美元，1000万部就是5000万美元了。
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FORESEE
People don’t understand economies of scale. They just want to complain that the phone they already have headphones & a shit ton of chargers for, won’t include one. They’re gonna be super mad once the whole industry follows in suit, as they usually do, and only the budget brands pack in "the essentials." It’s a very smart way to reduce a shit ton of waste & save a ton of money. People will get over it.
人们不了解什么叫规模经济，他们只是想抱怨而已。他们已经有配备耳机的手机了，有一堆的充电器，然后还抱怨不带充电器的手机。一旦整个行业像想往常一样、跟进苹果的举动，他们会非常生气的。而且只有廉价品牌才会将“必需品”放在包装盒中。
这是一个非常聪明的方法，可以大幅减少垃圾，节省大量资金，人们将会克服的。
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asarathy
Apple definitely needs the extra 50 million….
苹果肯定需要多赚那额外的5000万美元。
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Trackster
Pretty sure his comment was sarcasm.
“什么叫“只卖700美元”？你是认真的？…”
我很确定他的评论是在讽刺。
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GoodTroll
Honestly, this is probably for the best. Especially the loss of the EarPods. That’s really a waste to ship around the world only to end up in the drawers of most and eventually in the trash. The charger too. Most have a good number floating around at this point and, if not, they are readily available. No mention of the charging cable in the article. Considering how easily they wear out, hopefully they’ll still be providing a new one with a new phone purchase.
说实话，这可能是最好的方法，特别是不配备耳机，这真是一种浪费，运送到世界各地，然后却被扔进了大多数人的抽屉里，最终被扔进垃圾桶，充电器也是如此。大多数人都有很多充电器和耳机，如果没有的话，也很容易得到。文章中没有提到数据线，考虑到数据线很容易磨损，我希望他们仍然在新手机中配备数据线。
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friseurtermin
As much as I hope your right about this, I really doubt Apple will ever offer any "freebie"..
对于这一点，虽然我希望你是正确的，但我真的怀疑苹果是否会提供任何“免费”的服务。
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mrgnarchr
Do they still do stickers?
他们现在还有logo贴纸么？
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dootrick
To be fair, if your Airpods have lasted half a decade when they were only released three and a half years ago (December 2016) you’re going great guns. At that rate you’ll have have them a decade by Christmas.
公平地说，如果你的AirPods的已经用了5年的话，那你真是太牛逼了，这玩意三年半之前才发布的（2016年12月）。按照这个速度，到圣诞节的时候，你该用了10年了吧？
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Turbofrog
If it’s actually about being environmentally friendly (which I can totally get behind), they should pass on the savings from omitting them to the consumer. Or simply unbundle them, and allow buyers to get a free charger with the purchase of an iPhone, if they want it.
As it stands now, Apple gets to pocket a few hundred million extra dollars in profit.
如果真的是为了环保（这个我完全支持），那么他们应该用省下来的钱对消费者让利。或者干脆不要把手机和配件捆绑销售，允许购买者在购买iPhone的时候、免费获得一个充电器，如果他们愿意的话。
而从现在的情况来看，苹果又可以多赚几亿美元了。
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iamantman
Yeah exactly. That’s why I was saying it’s a win win. They’re making more money, and besides the initial rift it causes, it ends up being a net positive from a marketing/brand perspective.
说的没错，所以我说这是双赢，他们赚到了更多的钱，除了刚开始会造成一些分歧，从营销/品牌的角度来看，这最终会是一个利好的举动。
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GoodTroll
The article says they’re also doing this to defray the extra cost of 5G. Not sure I really buy it but there is at least some truth to it. Any innovation is going to cost more. You can argue that year to year improvements are expected, though. It’s still a net positive for the environment, so I approve.
文章说了，他们这样做也是为了抵消5G带来的额外费用，我不确定我是否真的会买，但至少有点道理，任何创新都将付出更高的代价，虽然你也可以说、本来就应该每年都有进步。这对环境来说也是一个利好，所以我是赞成的。
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IamsureItisnot
Lol! Apple, the one fighting like crazy against the law for right to repair and sending lawyer letters to independent shops to prevent them to repair Apple devices, Apple which does not allow any upgrade of components (every solder), no swappable SSD (like the Surface), no SD card support for their phone or tablet, …
You dare to imply that Apple does that for environment reason? That was golden!
笑死了，苹果公司，这家疯狂反对法律要求的“维修权”的公司，它们向独立商店发送律师函，阻止他们修理苹果设备，苹果公司不允许这些商店对其部件（所有焊料）进行任何升级，不允许更换固态硬盘（这跟微软的surface一样），而它们的手机和平板也不支持SD卡。
这竟敢说苹果这样干是出于环保的原因？你可真敢说。
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OpssYourBad
If this is true, then that means the iPhone is still not going USB-C…
如果这是真的，那就意味着苹果仍然不会使用USB-C接口。
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DemocraticSocialist
God damn it
天杀的苹果
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FrozenJackal
iPhone will go completely wireless and will never have a usb-c port, sorry bud!
对不起兄嘚，iPhone将全面无线化，而且永远都不会有USB-C接口
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Illabo
And it’s developers disaster. Xcode over the air debugging are still not reliable all the time. Backups through the cable are much faster too.
这将是开发者的噩梦，Xcode无限调试仍然不可靠，而且通过数据线进行数据备份也快得多。
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Tgggm
They might provide the cable…
他们可能会提供数据线吧。
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MicroGoogApplMazon
I’m confused as to why the whole USB-C thing is even a talking point with iPhones.
There has never been any indication that Apple is even considering switching from Lightning to USB-C. It’s not like USB-C is so new that Apple is waiting to jump on-board. They themselves made USB-C the (only) port of choice on their MacBooks years ago, and even made the switch on the iPad Pro in 2018. If they wanted it on the iPhone, they would done it by now.
It’s not happening.
我很困惑，为什么说起iPhone、要扯到USB-C接口上去呢？
从来没有任何迹象表明苹果正考虑从Lightning接口切换至USB-C接口，并不是说USB-C接口技术比较新，以至于苹果正在等待加入UBC-C阵营。几年前，苹果就在自家的MacBook上提供了USB-C接口的选择（也是唯一的选择），甚至在2018年iPad pro上切换成了USB-C接口，如果他们想在iPhone上使用USB-C接口，他们现在就会这样做。
反而这个并没有发生。
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zduboss
I’m actually alright with this. I’m willing to assume 99.999% of this site’s readership already has a USB-A power brick (something that basically never wears out), and I have countless unused EarPods from my iPhones. EarPods and 5W power bricks are basically e-waste at this point.
其实我对这个没啥问题，我会假设这个网站上99.999%的人都拥有USB-A充电头（基本上没有什么磨损），而且我已经有无数个EarPods耳机了，在这一点上，EarPods和5瓦充电头基本上就是电子垃圾。
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DemocraticSocialist
I still have the USB-A charger from my iPhone 3g recharging my water flosser.
我仍然留着我的iPhone 3G上的USB-A充电头，用来给我的电动牙刷充电。
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2003aaa
Better yet, I still use the brick that came with my iPod 5.5th gen to charge my iPhone XR. Pretty fast, too.
我还在用iPod 5代的充电头给我的iPhone XR充电，也挺快的
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BlatantNinja23 Moderator, The Verge
Completely agree with this, how many earpods remain in the box and just get thrown away? I know for sure I don’t need another lightning cable. Nintendo has been doing this for years in japan, if not what, decades? Its not really that crazy of an idea. Maybe just drop the price of the standard cables/plugs for the apple new comers that might feel cheated.
完全同意这一点，有多少耳机躺留在盒子里、然后被扔掉？我确定我不需要另一根lightning数据线了。在日本，任天堂这样干已经好多年了，可能有几十了？这个想法其实没那么疯狂，也许还能降低标准数据线/插头的价格，对于苹果新用户来说，他们可能会觉得受骗了。
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I am not Spartacus
I just keep the new charger and the earbuds in the box. After a year or two, when it’s time to upgrade, I add them to the Swappa listing to increase the resale value of the device. It always helps, and I never need a new charger when I already have about 15-20 of them sitting in my cable drawer.
我会把新充电器和耳塞放在盒子里，一两年后，当我需要升级设备时，我会把它们添加到Swappa列表中，以增加二手设备的转售价值。这种方法百试不爽，而且我从来都不需要一个新充电器，因为在我的抽屉里，已经有15-20个充电器了。
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ben492
Most "regular" people I see around me, aka not tech enthusiast, use their default headphones that came in the box. Earpods are still very popular in my country because they’re more convenient to use without a dongle, and not everybody wants to upgrade to AirPods.
Let’s also not forget that most people are cheap when it comes to buying accessories like chargers or cables. I don’t think it’s a good idea to stop including chargers, so that the average Joe plugs his brand new iphone 12 pro max to a 5$ charger. Because let’s be honest, official Apple accessories are too expensive for the average buyer.
And when people upgrade their iphone, they usually sell their previous model, with their old charger. So I don’t think it’s that obvious that people have multiple quality chargers lying around at home.
我周围的大多数“普通”人，也就是说、他们不是技术爱好者，都会使用盒子里默认的耳机。EarPods在我们国家仍然很受欢迎，因为没有加密锁，它使用起来也更加方便，而且不是人人都想升级到AirPods。
我们也不要忘了，大多数人在购买充电器或数据线等配件时都很吝啬。我不认为去除充电器是一个好主意，这样一来，普通人都会将他们崭新的iphone12 promax插到一个5美元的充电器上。因为说实话，苹果官方配件对普通用户来说也忒贵了。
当人们升级iphone时，他们通常会卖掉之前的老设备，带着旧充电器。所以我不认为人们家里到处都有充电器在吃灰。
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MicroGoogApplMazon
I don’t think the cost of the accessories is the problem, to be honest. If you’re spending $1,000 on an iPhone, you can surely afford the $30 or whatever the headset costs. To me, it’s more the annoyance of buying the headset separately. We’ve come to expect, over many years, that headsets are included in the box. And, of course, not everyone has a Lightning headset lying around.
For instance, I’m an Android user, so I definitely don’t have any Lightning accessories. But I have a work-issued iPhone 8. If it hadn’t come with EarPods, that would leave me a choice between either not having headphones to use with it, or spend money on buying EarPods (or a dongle) which I wouldn’t want to do since it’s not even my phone.
And when people upgrade their iphone, they usually sell their previous model, with their old charger. So I don’t think it’s that obvious that people have multiple quality chargers lying around at home.
Exactly. I’m seeing a lot of comments here about people saying they have loads of adapters lying around. I don’t understand why. I’ve owned several phones over the years, but I don’t have multiple extra chargers, because I obviously give those along when I sell my old phone. Are people here giving away their old phones without the brick and just hoarding on chargers?
老实说，我不认为配件的价格是问题所在。如果你花1000美元买一部iPhone，你肯定也买得起30美元的耳机把、或者其他价格。对我来说，这更多是在于：要单独购买耳机，这很恼人。多年来，我们一直期待着盒子里会包含耳机，还有，并不是人人家里都有lightning接口的耳机在吃灰。。
例如，我是一个安卓用户用户，所以我绝对没有任何lightning接口的配件。但我有一部iphone8，是我的工作用机，如果它没有配备耳机，那我就只能选择要么不带耳机、要么花钱去买耳机（或蓝牙耳机），因为这部iPhone8不是我的，所以我不想花钱去买耳机。
“当人们升级iphone时，他们通常会卖掉之前的老设备，带着旧充电器。所以我不认为人们家里到处都有充电器在吃灰。”---
说的一点没错，我在这里看到很多人都说他们有一堆充电器在吃灰，我不明白这是为什么。这些年来，我用过好几部手机，但我并没有多个额外的充电器，因为很明显、我卖掉旧手机的时候会把这些都送给买家。这里的人卖旧手机的时候是不是都不送充电头？只是为了囤积充电器？
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GoodTroll
Yes? I think the only charger I’ve sold with a device was with an iPad that was pretty new. I’ve sold a few to gazelle and on ebay or whatever and I don’t think they’ve ever requested chargers or cables.
是的，我想我卖旧设备、唯一带有充电器的是一台很新的iPad。我在gazelle和eBay上卖过一些东西，但我想他们从来没有要求过带充电器、或带数据线。
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MicroGoogApplMazon
Okay… So basically there are people who are actively contributing to the e-waste problem by hoarding on chargers and cables that they don’t need, at least some of which will inevitably have to be disposed, as opposed to selling it along with the phone (which reduces your own waste and also means the buyer doesn’t have to buy another charger and potentially create more waste and add to the problem). And then those same people (or some of them, at least) are now patting Apple on the back by saying that excluding chargers is a fantastic move for the environment.
好吧…所以，基本上有些人就是通过囤积他们不需要的充电器和数据线、来解决电子垃圾问题的！至少其中一些不可避免地要被扔到，而不是和手机一起出售（这样可以减少你自己垃圾，也意味着买家不必再另行购买充电器，可能会产生给多的垃圾、并加剧环境问题）。然后，还是这些人（或者至少其中一些人）现在却在拍苹果的马屁，声称不配备充电器对环境来说是一个极好的举措？
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GoodTroll
Okay. Sure. I mean, wouldn’t the buyer already have their own chargers? The point is that there are billions of USB charges out there, most of which are likely compatible with charging phones and which have a much longer life cycle than phones. So it makes sense to hold onto them rather than send them on to someone who already has their own. Also, we happen to use all those chargers in the house. We’ve got 3 phones, 4 tablets, wireless headphones, battery powered speakers and other gadgets that use them. Holding onto a few chargers from my past phones has permitted me to have enough of them around so we can (usually) find one when it’s needed. The key is not throwing them out or shipping them off when you still need them. Otherwise it’s me definitely buying a new one instead of the other guy potentially buying one.
好吧，我的意思是，买家不是已经有自己的充电器了吗？关键是，有数十亿的USB充电器了，其中大部分都能与手机充电兼容，而且它们的使用寿命比手机要长得多。因此，留着这些充电器是有意义的，而不是把它们送给一个已经有充电器的人。
而且，恰好我们也可以在整座房子里使用到这些充电器呀。我们有3部手机、4部平板电脑、还有无线耳机、电池驱动的音箱、以及其他小玩具，都要使用充电器。留着之前老手机的充电器，充电器数量就足够多，这样我就可以在需要用的时候找到一个。关键是，不要在你还需要它们的时候把它们扔掉、或者送给别人。否则，需要买新充电器的就是我了，而不是买我设备的人。
