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诡秘外国网友评论节选意译 - 【1123-1127】【含本章说】

2021-12-25 14:29 作者:凌冰雪  | 我要投稿

【1123章(红祭司-177章)探索之后】——本章说

【“她怎么就不能每天多写几个小时?】

SiCom

Every catch up reader ever.

每个追更读者的心声。

 

memehilist

if Gehrman personally tele to Fore and gives her some warm reminders everyday and it will not be problem... prolly bring a head of a wanted pirate along will help too.

如果格尔曼亲自打电话给佛尔思,天天给她一些“温馨”提醒的话,这就不会是个问题了……如果带上一个被通缉海盗的头应该也会很有帮助。

 

chillytaka

yeah author, why are you not write a few more hours everyday ? 🤨

是啊作者君,为什么你就不能每天多写几个小时呢?

 

Anna_94

Its feel like Fors is Cuttlefish self insert.

感觉佛尔思像是乌贼的吐槽心声。


【“这次去接她的时候,顺便催一催……”】

aryss

you mean you're going to scare the procrastination out of her 😅 good luck Fors!

你的意思是说你要去吓跑她的拖延症吧23333祝你好运佛尔思!

 

KingofNazarick

Should be "When I GO to pick her up this time".

应该是“等我这次去接她的时候”。

【原文的“去”写成了过去时went。】

 

Chikage

He's such an sadist when it comes to Fors😂

一旦牵扯到佛尔思,他就像个抖S哈哈哈哈


【“等他帮达尼兹成为了‘阴谋家’再说吧,反正这也是约定之一……‘铁血骑士’的晋升仪式说难不难,说简单也不简单,尤其对‘猎人’来说,更是麻烦……这竟然要让擅长挑衅,喜欢谋划阴谋的‘猎人’组建一支至少三十个人的队伍,与他们培养深厚的战友情谊,让他们相继变得强大,并且配合默契,能根据眼神和动作领悟‘猎人’的意思,彼此近乎一体,然后由他们组成仪式……队伍的实力和默契度越高,仪式的效果越好……”】

Wu_Kong

Seriously? Why is only Seer pathway's sequence 4 ritual so ********? Furthermore, how did the Antigonus and Zaratul families existed? Did they just casually killed other family's beyonders?

认真的吗?为什么就占卜家途径的序列4仪式这么难?

而且,安提格努斯和查拉图家族到底为什么会存在啊?他们难道就能这么轻松惬意地杀掉其他家族的非凡者?

 

(回复楼上)Observer98

I think creatures at the demigod level also count for the ritual so they didn't always need to kill a human. Then again everyone has enemies.

Honestly speaking I find the Seer ritual easier than this one. Seems less time consuming.

我觉得半神级别的生物应该也算在仪式的范围内,所以他们并不一定得杀人。而且,每个人都有敌人嘛。

说真的,我感觉占卜家的仪式其实比这个简单。起码消耗的时间看起来少一点。

 

(回复楼上)Wu_Kong

Dude, what are you talking about? Even as a sequence 4 himself, Klein still needed help of Angels to some extent to make his opponents unlucky. In that sense, seer pathway seq4 ritual could be written as- As a seq5, direct a bunch of saints and angels to kill one saint who is protected by his/her own angels... How is it not nigh impossible? Plus, the other rituals that we have seen so far depends to some extent on luck, whereas even if a saint was killed in front of you and crowd, that would still not be qualified as a ritual.

老哥你说啥呢?即使他自己也是序列4,克莱恩也需要一个天使的帮助才能让他的对手在某些方面变得不幸。这样说的话,占卜家途径的序列4仪式完全可以这么形容——作为一个序列5,指挥一群圣者和天使去杀掉另一个被他的天使们保护着的圣者……这不是几乎不可能吗?而且,我们目前见到的其他的仪式都需要一定程度上的运气,因为即使在你和众人面前杀掉了一个圣者,那也不能算是符合仪式要求。

 

(回复楼上)Jay_Crew10

All the Sequence asks is for one demigod level creature to be killed in a performance. Klein's way of promoting is an exception.

这个序列的要求只是在一场策划的演出中杀死一个半神级生物。克莱恩晋升的方式算是个例外吧。

 

(回复三楼)Observer98

Tbf Ince Zangwill himself was also colluding with Angel tier existences so I can't say that Klein's ritual was typical. A well prepared Seer with sufficient Sealed Artifacts(Something families like Zaratul and Antigonus should have) wouldn't be too far off from dealing with "ordinary" demigods or Beyonder creature equivalents.

说实话,因斯·赞格威尔本人也是和天使级存在有关系的,所以我不觉得克莱恩的仪式的情况算常见。 一个准备充分的占卜家,还有足够的封印物(像是查拉图和安提格努斯家族应该会有的储备),对付“普通”的半神或者非凡生物应该是差不多的。


(回复三楼)lindatan90

The ritual requirement is "demigod level creature", not "demigod equipped with angel level sealed artifact and possessed by former King of Angels evil spirits". It doesn't require the Marionettist to fight the demigod creature head on either. They just need to plot and direct. You can't use Klein's ritual as model to judge the difficulty of ritual. Also, if you imagine Klein's target as Ince without 0-08, it wasn't all that difficult. Ince can't safely transform into his mystical creature form without the help of 0-08 and can't cover his trace well from the Church. So all Klein needs for advancement is to lure him into a trap and contact the church and make them do the work. This should be sufficient for ritual requirements.

仪式要求是“半神级生物”,不是“带着天使级封印物而且还被前·天使之王恶灵附身的半神”。而且也并没有要求一个秘偶大师和半神级生物正面战斗。他们只是需要策划阴谋,引导局势。你不能用克莱恩的仪式作为例子来判断这个仪式的难度。而且,如果你把克莱恩的目标想象成没有0-08的因斯,那其实也没那么难。因斯如果没有0-08的帮助,是没办法安全转换到神话生物形态的,也没办法躲过教会的追踪。所以颗粒啊恩晋升需要的就只是引诱他进陷阱,然后联系教会,让他们动手就行。这其实就满足仪式要求了。


(回复一楼)BrokenMortal

It was orchestrated the demise of demigod level creature. He never had to kill it himself. Though I agree its extremely difficult. But it's nothing to Scholar of Yore, 300 years in isolation; wtf. Seer is hard mode!

要求是策划一个半神级生物的死亡。他从来也不需要亲手杀掉它啊。不过我也同意,这实在是太难了。但这相比古代学者来说也不算什么了,三百年与世隔绝,卧了个槽。占卜家真的是困难模式!

 

(回复一楼)lindatan90

As for how Zaratul and Antigonus families advance, it's not hard to imagine either. They just need to find and locate a demigod creature, tell the beyonder that needs that creature as ingredient and provide some assistance from the sidelines, and also invites their families members to watch as spectators. See? It's easy.

至于查拉图和安提格努斯家族要如何晋升,这也不难想象。他们只需要找到并且定位一个半神生物,告诉那些需要这个生物做魔药材料的非凡者,给他们打打辅助,再邀请他们的家族成员在旁边做观众就行了。你看?这多简单。

 

Pure_Xray

I can’t imagine when Danitz or Andersen organize a team ,are you sure that they won’t be killed by their teammates? Or the word camaraderie just means all of the team members are solidly united to kick their leader’s ass?

我无法想象达尼兹或者安德森拉起一支队伍的样子,你确定他们不会被他们的队友杀掉吗?或者“战友情谊”这个词只是代表所有队员都能团结一致,誓要把他们的队长揍扁的意思?


(回复楼上)Dr_SaltedFish

I think Danitz got a leg up on Anderson in this, he is after all a part of a pirate ship. They'll be more than willing-ish to help him in advancing to demigod hood, the only thing they have to fight about is their captain's attention.

我觉得达尼兹在这点上还是比安德森领先一个身位的,他毕竟还是海盗团的一员。他们应该会很乐意帮他晋升半神,毕竟他们唯一需要竞争的就只是他们船长的青睐而已。


Mr_Scary_Cat

if you think about it, as long as Klein has something that acts as an anchor, he can take the potion. So theoretically, he could just establish his own church instead of killing a demigod creature. But that would be way harder in this era.

你们想想,克莱恩只要有什么能当做锚的东西,他就能喝魔药了。所以理论上来说,他完全可以直接建立他自己的教会,不用杀掉一个半神生物。但在现在这个时代来说应该要难很多吧

 

(回复楼上)lindatan90

I think the anchor type needed for advancement is different from faith...

我觉得晋级需要的锚的类型和信仰应该不太一样……


(回复一楼)Feanorw

You mean Kleins advancement to Bizarro Sorcerer? If so, he mentions soon after advancing that using faith would rob him of his humanity, causing him to lose control.

你是说克莱恩晋升诡法师的时候吗?如果是的话,他在晋升没多久之后就有提到过,用信仰当锚会逐渐剥夺他自己的人性,导致他失控。

 

(回复楼上)Mr_Scary_Cat

Ohh, I guess I missed that part.

哦,那我猜我应该是忘了这块了。

 

(回复楼上)Feanorw

Chapter 946. Actually he mentions it in the midst of advancing.

946章。其实他是在晋升中途提到的。

 

Anna_94

do you guys remember Audrey brother?. is not he in military?, and iirc he have special force team he lead hu dread of man and manage to beat Intis 1k Man. is he also hunter?.

你们还记得奥黛丽的哥哥吗?他不是在军方吗?而且如果我没记错的话,他还有一只特别行动小队,他领着这支小队成功击败了因蒂斯的千人队伍。他也是猎人吗?


(回复楼上)Dr_SaltedFish

He should be in the same as Xio's pathway, since the Leon military controls that and black Emperor. Any mid seq can lead their own team, just that Hunter pathway emphasize more on team play at higher levels. Also I doubt Audrey's brother is a demigod, Klein would have noticed it when they interacted.

他应该是和休同一条途径的,因为鲁恩军方控制着黑皇帝途径。任何中序列都可以带领一支自己的小队,只是猎人途径更强调高等级的团队作战。而且我也很怀疑奥黛丽的哥哥有没有半神,如果他是的话克莱恩和他交流的时候应该能发现的。

 

Skyfiend13

lol wonder how Anderson can find 30 subordinates and not hate by all of 'em

哈哈哈哈哈不知道安德森要怎么找到30个下属,还得保证不会被他们所有人恨上


Feanorw

Makes sense. We saw in the fight between Klein and that Iron Blooded Knight a few chapters ago that the IBK can disperse the damage to his comrades. Just as the Bizarro Sorcerer uses the spectators of his act as anchors, the Iron Blooded Knight uses the power of... friendship!

这也能说通。我们都看到了,在几章之前克莱恩和那个铁血骑士之间的战斗中,那个铁血骑士可以把自己受到的伤害分散到所有他的同志身上。就像是诡法师能把观众对他的行为的观测作为锚一样,铁血骑士用的是……友谊!


【这是发现外来者小杰克后,白银城自我拯救的重要一步。】

lindatan90

Wonder what hAppened to this kid now. 🤔

不知道这个孩子现在怎么样了。

   

(回复楼上)Reptile_Not_Alien

died

死了


【戴里克能够体会队员们的心情,因为他也是这样,但是,从“世界”格尔曼.斯帕罗处听说过“神战遗迹”各种事情的他很清楚那片大海并不简单,要想前往海的另外一边,恐怕还有极大的困难。】

Kioga

Nothing is impossible when you have enough Beyonders

只要有足够的非凡者,没有什么是不可能的


【只能希望“愚者”先生庇佑,嗯,那个小男孩能出现在神庙废墟里,说明还有别的道路可以绕过巨人王宫殿,抵达海边……戴里克满含希冀地想着,绕过静静燃烧的篝火,走向位于另外一侧的首席房间。】

lindatan90

That other path should be controlled by True Creator. Wonder why He needs his believers to come to the Land of God Forsaken though...

那条路可能被掌握在真实造物主手里。不过不知道为什么他需要让他的信徒跑去神弃之地……


【戴里克对这名男子并不陌生,知道他是安提尔娜的丈夫多洛雷斯,一位序列6的“黎明骑士”。】

aryss

oh no.. that is sad 😢

哦不……这好悲伤……

 

(回复楼上)Jack_N_Mikhail

(。ŏ﹏ŏ)


【在白银城,未满十八岁前,可以自由恋爱,直至结婚,而若等到十八岁还没有配偶,就会被安排一个,丧偶三年者也同样如此。】

Anna_94

>tfw no state mandate GF

>从没体验过国家给发女朋友的感觉


【这是保证白银城人口数量的必要措施,看似违背人性,但为了整个族群在黑暗之地的延续,只能这么做,而且,这还可以最大程度保证每个人都有一定数量的近亲,不至于在死后异变为可怕的恶灵。】

Anna_94

im wondering how many incest in here?, if they married each other by the time they married their cousin isnot it.

我就在想那这里到底有多少算是乱***伦的人?如果他们和表亲结婚之后才发现那应该不算。


【那次探索里,洛薇雅长老吃掉了她的丈夫!】

aryss

whoa! 😱

哇啊!

 

Ginnudi

Considering how believers of true creator behave themselves I am pretty damn sure that this is the case.

考虑到真实造物主的信徒的种种行为,我很确信这就特么是真的。

 

Tukang_Sampah

Lovia, the misunderstood cultist

洛薇雅,一个被误解的邪***教徒

 

Anna_94

yooooo perhas she believe in TC in hoping Resurec his husband. and she use Knight shadow thibg right?. maybe its actualy her husband?. she devour him thus He still "alive" inside her.

哟也许她信仰真造是希望能复活她丈夫呢。而且她操纵的是一个黑骑士,对吧?也许那其实就是她的丈夫?她把他吃掉是因为这样他就能在她的体内继续“活”下去。

 

Shtriya

frol some past chapter . im hetting feelings taht Lovia isnt that bad . It might be same case as sun , a diety which showed her hope to save her city . But she is not that fortunate as her Hope is a crazy evil god .

根据过去几章,我有种感觉,洛薇雅也许没那么坏。这和太阳的情况有点像,有个神明给了她拯救她的城市的希望。但她就没那么幸运,因为她把希望寄托在一个疯狂的邪神身上。

 

Totem

I had that nagging feeling that in forgetting something, and now I remember: it's lunch time! Thank you Derrick!

我之前有一种纠结的感觉,好像忘记了什么似的,现在我记起来了:午餐时间到了!谢谢你戴里克!

 

radarwave34

maybe the human finger she sometimes barfs out is not hers but its her husbands and shes just keeps it a momentum to remember him by

也许她有些时候吐出来的人的手指并不是她的,而是她丈夫的,她只是用这种方式留下了纪念品,来纪念他

 

(回复楼上)radarwave34

just a speculation

只是一个揣测


Gengar_The_Fool

Somehow this look like Dunn Smith acting with his teammate...

😭😭😭

不知为何这看起来像是邓恩·史密斯对他的队友做的事情一样……


【首席这么问的目的是什么?饱受“倒吊人”阿尔杰熏陶的戴里克下意识就泛起了这么一个念头。】

Kukusan_Network

Look at that boy. All grown up!

看看这孩子。都长大了呀!


【“参与密谋的那些存在,在海的另外一边,还很活跃?”】

Draenaos

oh boy. revenge plot incoming?

哦天啊。复仇剧情要来了吗?


(回复楼上)lindatan90

Nah... For them, to be able to live in peace is sufficient.

不是……对他们来说,能安稳的活下去就很足够了。

 

Carlos_Lopez_0470

if this a revenge plot he might become a tarot club member!

如果这是复仇剧情的话,他可能会成为塔罗会一员!


【“小心洛薇雅。”】

memehilist

chief's final choice: Mr. fool \o/

首席最终选择了:愚者。耶\o/


Shtriya

atlast he said those words

他终于说出来这句话了


【海柔尔乘坐马车从麋鹿庄园返回城中,预备前往鲁恩慈善助学基金与奥黛丽小姐见面,商量捐款与帮忙等事情。】

Kioga

Will she find a roach with a monocle this time?

她这次会不会突然看到一只戴着单片眼镜的蟑螂?


【这时,一个做邮差打扮的人骑着自行车从前方横向经过,姿态颇为悠闲。】

ThisDaddy

yup the postman who deliver letters to Fors's place and always late

没错,这个邮差就是负责给佛尔思住的地方送信的,而且总是迟到


(回复楼上)lindatan90

Don't think it is the same postman...

我不觉得这是同一个邮差……

   

(回复楼上)cadusjo

Not anymore, he isn’t

不再是同一个了,他不是


Adicawida

Monocle? it's monocle, isn't it? I can smell it...

单片眼镜?是单片眼镜对吧?我闻到了阴谋的味道……


【海柔尔随意打量了一眼,看见了一个戴于右眼的单片眼镜。】

Draenaos

well fk!

哦我c!


Dr_SaltedFish

Oh sh*t!!!

哦我去!!!

 

Cherry_rush

fk!

擦! 


desertfox

What the? Not when she is mostly recovered.

卧槽?别在她都快恢复的时候来吧

 

Shtriya

Shit is about hAppen now 😅

现在又要发生一堆糟心事了


Adicawida

I KNEW IT!!!

我就知道!!!

 

sugber

Oh no, He’s back!!

哦不,他回来了!!


Surnam

time for another trauma..

是时候再来一次创伤体验了……

 

Kioga

...and she goes into a coma

……然后她就要昏迷了


【1123章(红祭司-177章)探索之后】

K_Kvothe

Which one is more terrifying seeing a random guy with a monocle 🧐 or looking death in the eye💀?

Hint : you already know the answer 😉

看到一个路人戴着单片眼镜🧐,和直视死神的眼睛💀,哪一个更可怕?

提示:你已经知道答案是什么了😉

 

(回复楼上)Archipelago

Seeing Frank Lee setting up a shop ~

看到弗兰克·李开了家店最可怕~

 

Heshin

Heh Elder Lovia kind of has a dark heroine vibe going. Sacrificing everything to help her city survive and overcome its continued plight. As a villian she isn't half bad.

I'm betting the whole eating her husband thing might have been an advancement ritual.. Wouldn't surprise me knowing that pathway..

呵,洛薇雅长老还挺有种黑化女主角什么的感觉的。牺牲一切,就是为了帮助她的城市活下来,度过一直持续的困境。作为一个坏人,她其实还挺好的。

我打赌这个吃掉她丈夫的事情可能只是个晋升仪式……我们都知道这个途径是什么样,所以我也不觉得惊讶……

   

(回复楼上)Dex2

Makes sense. It could be a ritual needed and the husband had already told her to use him should something befall him

这说得通。这可能是仪式需要,而且有可能她的丈夫已经告诉她如果自己有什么不测,可以利用他来进行仪式什么的

 

desertfox

You thought it was an ordinary mailman,


BUT IT WAS I, AMON!!!

你以为这只是一个普通的邮差,


但其实是我,阿蒙哒!!!

 

bRomeo

Is this chapter hinting that Derrick might get married to lovia. She is widowed and the sun should be 18 soon. o.<

这一章是暗示戴里克可能会和洛薇雅结婚吗。她现在是寡妇,而太阳马上就要18岁了o.<

 

(回复楼上)ResidentialPsycho

Oh, god! Such a horrifying thought! Surely, there's some way for the parties to veto the pairing and opt to join with another.

哦,天啊!这个想法也太可怕了!当然,肯定有什么办法让他们双方能选择否决这种配对,和另一个人结合什么的。

 

SaintBookwormLich

Aaaand Hazel got a nerve break again 👁️ 😂👌

然后……海柔尔又要恐慌发作了


Dr_SaltedFish

Did she actually ate her husband tho? It would seem in line with those crazy rose bishops, maybe that's the event that really broke her mind.

但她真的吃掉了她的丈夫吗?这听起来和那些疯狂的蔷薇主教的行为挺符合的,也许这就是让她真正精神崩溃的那件事。

 

AKirchner

"Why can't she just write a few more hours every day?" - Klein (and every webnovel reader)

“为什么她就不能每天多写几个小时?”——克莱恩(还有所有网文读者)

 

ResidentialPsycho

It'd be hilarious if the Medici trio mistook Amon for Klein at first instead of running in terror since Klein pranked them last time.

如果梅迪奇三人组因为克莱恩上次耍了他们,误以为阿蒙是克莱恩,而不是第一时间掉头就跑,那就太搞笑了。


【1124章(红祭司-178章)强化队友】

Tetractys

Oh no, that jerk Ouroborous bullied our baby snake! That won't do! Little Will is Klein's to bully! 🐍🐍🐍

哦不,那个混蛋乌洛琉斯竟然欺负我们宝宝蛇!这怎么行!小威尔只有克莱恩能欺负!

 

(回复楼上)Talthor

Maybe when Klein advances to scholar he can somehow help!

也许等克莱恩晋升学者之后他能多少帮上一些忙!

 

(回复一楼)PreHIZtoricDevil

what does it mean to accomodate uniqueness? is it one of the requirement to promote to diety?

融合唯一性是什么意思?是晋升神明的要求之一吗?

 

(回复楼上)Roland

Uniqueness is like special "item" of each pathways that can be accomodate for the requirement to reach sequence 0

For example Die of probability is the uniqueness of monster pathways

To accomodate uniqueness....

Wait for next chapter...

唯一性有点像是每个途径的一个特殊“物品”,只有融合之后才能满足序列0的条件

比如,概率之骰就是怪物途径的唯一性

想要融合唯一性的话……下一章会揭晓具体要求

 

Randompasserby

That f*cking monocled ant is going to give me nightmares tonight, thanks 😫

这个该死的戴单片眼镜的蚂蚁今晚会让我做噩梦的,我真是谢谢你啊😫

 

Isaactomace

I feel like i should wear a monocle to work tomorrow and see if anyone starts running...

我感觉我明天应该戴着单片眼镜去上班,然后看看有没有人会当场逃跑……

 

GoodWithAToaster

Perhaps Klein can get Pallez Zoroast to conveniently ‘steal’ Will Auceptin’s next 22 years of life and experience and maybe that could be a cheat way to catapult him to age 22 :) I mean, those marauder angels can pretty much steal anything from what we’ve witnessed through the actions of Amon.

Or maybe, if it lasts long enough, one of his nifty history once more charms could return enough power to Will to digest and integrate the uniqueness?

Or Klein can negotiate with the die of probability above the grey frog and convince/bribe/threaten it to be willing to merge with Will even in young baby reboot mode (depending on whether his body can handle the merging process and power)

🤷🏼‍♂️

也许克莱恩可以让帕列兹·索罗亚斯德方便地直接“偷走”威尔·昂赛汀接下来22年的人生经历,也许可以把他直接催长到22岁,算是个作弊的方法:) 我的意思是,就我们看到的阿蒙的行动来看,那些偷盗者天使不是几乎可以偷走任何东西吗。

或者也许,如果持续的时间够长的话,他那些精巧的“昨日重现”符咒也可以给威尔足够的力量来消化和融合唯一性?

或者克莱恩也可以和概率之骰在灰雾上谈一谈,说服/贿赂/威胁它,让它愿意和威尔融合,即使他现在处于婴儿重启模式(这就取决于他的身体能不能承受住融合的过程和力量了)

 

Seion_Ozora

Twenty two years... and with that apocalypse later.... yeah, Ouroboros definitely took ur luck baby Will 😅

22年……然后不久之后就是那个世界末日……是啊,乌洛琉斯绝对偷走了你的运气,威尔宝宝


【1125章(红祭司-179章)契机】

Tetractys

When Klein goes to "bait" a Hound of Fulgrim, I wonder what his chances are that he'll end up attracting something else, too.

The luck of the MC can sometimes be heaven defying as much as it can also be 🐕*

等到克莱恩要“诱杀”福根之犬的时候,不知道他会不会最后吸引来一些别的什么东西。主角运有时候也可能是反向逆天的,堪比狗屎那种

 

(回复楼上)Mapaglarong_Haraya

I think it would be an unexpected situation again....But one thing for sure on my part, he has easier time to digest the scholar of yore potion, since he keeps on dabbling on history

我觉得那肯定又会发生出乎意料的情况……但有一点我可以肯定,他消化古代学者魔药的时候肯定更容易,他可是一直在探索历史啊 


DeadSoul262

Okay, regarding those methods of accomodating Uniqueness:

1. "Making the Uniqueness coming to life." That's exactly what Numinous Epistopate was trying to do in their artificial Death project.

2. "Forcibly putting the living uniqueness into one's body and taking some time to digest it slowly and reach a balance". This is what the Evernight Goddess is currently doing with the living death uniqueness.

3. This brings us to the final inference. Will thinks, power of Creator is needed to suppress the uniquess. Does that mean, Ancient Sun God is not truly dead? I think, only Evernight knows the answer. She has some really deep secrets for sure.

好的,关于融合唯一性的方法:

1. “把唯一性活化”。这完全就是灵教团一直在他们的人造死神计划里想做的事情。

2. “让‘唯一性’活化到一定程度,然后强行收入体内,用不短的时光一点点消磨,适应,达到平衡”。这是黑夜女神目前正在融合死亡唯一性的方法。

3. 然后是最后的推论。威尔觉得,想要压制唯一性,造物主的力量是必须的。这是不是意味着,远古太阳神并没有真正死亡?我觉得,只有黑夜知道真正的答案。她肯定有很多隐藏得极其之深的秘密。

 

(回复楼上)Mr_Scary_Cat

You got it all mixed up. The first is being born with it, like Amon and Adam. The second is giving human characteristics and forcing it to merge with you using the creator's suppression, imagine if someone forcibly merged with the hidden sage using the suppressive power of the creator. The third is taking it as an incomplete potion and an apotheosis ritual. This third one is what Will is aiming for. The evernight's way of digesting Death's authority seems more like the third method as well since the uniqueness never came to life, only almost.

你把这些东西都搞混了。第一种是天生自带,就像阿蒙和亚当。第二种是给予它们人形,然后在造物主的压制下强制它与你融合,想象一下如果一个人在造物主的压制下被强制和隐匿贤者融合在一起的样子。第三种是作为不完整的魔药配合成神仪式服食。这第三种就是威尔想要的方式。黑夜女神的方式是消化死神的权柄,这看起来更像是第三种方式,因为这个唯一性从来就没活化过,只是差一点活化了。


(回复一楼)Dex2

I think you've got it mixed up or I didn't get your message well. In the 2nd method where you put it in your body is where you need the power of the creator to slowly achieve balance with it. In this sense I suspect that:

✔ Creator is that level that ancient Sun God nearly reached Apparently.

✔ Without that level, perhaps you can use that crazy will that all angels and above experience and need to balance with anchors. I think this is the method Evernight is using since she isn't at the level of "Creator".

On another note, seems even Amon and Adam are uniqueness being brought to life then injected with human nature.

The way I see it, doing a simplified godhood ritual then taking a potion can sometimes be the easiest... unless the ritual is too tricky

我觉得你是把这些东西都弄混了,要不然就是我没看懂你的意思。在你说的第二种方法中你需要把它融合进你的身体,还需要造物主的力量来慢慢实现平衡。 这样的话我怀疑:

✔ 造物主显然就是远古太阳神差一点就达到的位阶。

✔ 没有这个位阶,也许你可以利用所有天使及以上的人都会经历的那种疯狂的念头,这也需要锚来平衡。我觉得这就是黑夜利用的方式,因为她还没到“造物主”级别。

另一方面,看起来甚至阿蒙和亚当都是活化的唯一性,只是被注入了人类的天性而已。

在我看来,进行一个简化版成神仪式,然后喝下魔药,有些时候应该是最容易的方案……除非这个仪式特别难搞

 

Demoneastz

Yippi, Here we got sequence 3!

耶,我们来了序列3!

 

timbre

And this proves that mysterios fog is above unique ness.

而这也实锤了,神秘的灰雾是在唯一性之上的存在。


【1126章(红祭司-180章)“出乎意料”】——本章说

Shtriya

is ahe going to scam him or going to give everything he needs for his advancement ?

她是打算骗他,还是要把他目前晋升仪式需要的东西全都给他呢?

 

(回复楼上)Santari

My first thought was a scam as well :p、

我第一反应也是她要骗他:p、


【他点燃蜡烛,焚烧相应的精油和草药粉末,退后两步,熟练地低诵起女神的尊名,末了道:“我将这充满生命之力的手杖献祭给您,愿得到您的恩宠。”】

Tetractys

How will our dear Frank Lee get it now? 😭😭😭

那我们亲爱的弗兰克·李现在又要怎么拿到它啊


(回复一楼)DeadmanWhisperer

this cane is so good tho...

但这个手杖挺不错的啊……

 

(回复一楼)Dr_SaltedFish

The cane is a sign that he has also been running around healing the peasants. Besides the cane itself, that's a lot of brownie points too.

这个手杖也能代表着他就是那个四处奔波,治疗贫民的人。除了手杖本身之外,这种行为本身也是个极大的加分点。


【克莱恩心中一喜,忙低头感谢起女神的赐予。】

LazyOracle

These things always frustrate me

每次看到这种什么感谢我都觉得很难受


Carlos_Lopez_0470

Goddess might now be able to know Klein has access to forsaken land of the gods ...

女神现在也许已经知道克莱恩能进入神弃之地了……


【“早知道这么顺利,其实不一定非得用‘生命手杖’……】

KplormKuts

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 see this MC and his after thought,skin pain! lol

哈哈哈哈看看这个主角还有他事后的想法,就是肉痛!哈哈哈哈哈


【“我那么大一堆杂物,说不定也够了……】

Ozwin

Klein, your cheapness is showing again.

克莱恩啊,你的小气又表现出来了哦。

 

Agm_18thlord

Definitely has talents as a provoker.

他绝对有成为挑衅者的天赋。


【“或许我什么都不献祭,女神也会赐予,现在的情况说明,祂本身就是支持我成为‘古代学者’的……】

Bubba970

In my mind, the Evernight Goddess is the ultimate classy lady, so asking for help without a sacrifice is like showing up to a third date without flowers: she won't say anything, but she won't respect you after the fact either.

在我心目中,黑夜女神永远都是一名优雅的淑女,所以不提供任何献祭就举行仪式,感觉就像是进行第三次约会却不带花一样:她什么也不会说,但在这事之后你就再也别想获得她的尊重了。

 

(回复楼上)Nox_Invictus_

but instead of flowers, Its an incredibly valuable demigod level artifact.

但比起花,这可是一件究极宝贵的半神级封印物啊。

 

Verez

Notice how every sentence he's trying get a lower price for the materials.

Cane>JunkPile>just give it to me for free

要注意到,他这里想的每一句话都是试图压低东西的价格。

手杖>垃圾堆>直接免费送我完了


【“嗯, 这么看来,在晋升序列2,获得天使位格前,女神应该还是会眷顾我的,之后就难以判断会有什么样的发展和变化了……”】

YuckaMountain

🤵👰💒


【然后,他开始计划怎么对付“福根之犬”这所谓的“源堡看守者”。】

Anna_94

Sefirot?.

源质们?

 

(回复楼上)Skyfiend13

Sefirot is plural, sefirah is singular

源质们是复数,源质是单数

【这里注明一下,Sefirot是卡巴拉生命树中的十种属性,也是卡巴拉生命树图形中会标出的十个节点,中文译作“源质”,乌贼的设定想必也是源于这里】


【“魔术师”不做无准备的表演。】

sugber

Haha, i love this.

哈哈,我喜欢。


【他戴的肩章对应高级督察,可实际上,以他的序列位阶和“红手套”小队队长的身份,应该等于警司,甚至总警司,但那个层次的警官,已不太会出这种任务,佩戴相应的肩章来丰收教堂容易引起民众的怀疑。】

Anna_94

Can we got Leonard spinoff pls. God i miss the detective aspect in this book, Like secret police investigation thing, Catching cultist etc, Mysteries murder.

能不能给我们来点伦纳德衍生情节啊,拜托。天啊,我真想念这本书里面的侦探要素,比如负责秘密调查,抓邪*教**徒还有涉及神秘学的谋杀案件的jing***察什么的


【埃姆林略显复杂的表情顿时有点凝固,张了张嘴,却不知道该说点什么。】

SRandom

...

 

Gengar_The_Fool

Emyln: Not Me... Old Man... No... I mean... It wasnt me, Father...

Leonard: 😏😏😏

Utravsky: 😐😐😐

埃姆林:不是我……老头……不,我是说……不是我,神父……

伦纳德:😏😏😏

乌特拉夫斯基:😐😐😐


【伦纳德.米切尔点燃了宗**教火药桶!】

lindatan90

😅

 

CringePlum14

"holy" war

“圣”战

 

Kioga

Great talent as a provoker

很有挑衅者天赋嘛


【“……”埃姆林。】

Gengar_The_Fool

Emyln: What the fvcking hell is wrong with you all, just take the Giant and go...😱😱😱

Leonard: . . . 🤣🤣🤣

埃姆林:你们都特么什么毛病啊,带走那个巨人赶紧滚不就好了吗……

伦纳德:……哈哈哈哈哈哈


【“……”伦纳德。】

Ozwin

ROFL

我把屋顶都笑塌了

 

aryss

lololol! all the best to our dear sanguine who has to under protective custody 😂😂😂

哈哈哈哈哈哈哈!祝我们亲爱的,马上要被保护性关押的血族一切顺利~


Kioga

and once again the vampire goes to the basement

然后这只吸血鬼又要被关在地下室了


【埃姆林愣在那里,不知该以什么表情来应对。】

Oddpancakes

Wrong place, wrong time bwahahaha!!!!

真是错误的时间和错误的地点,噗哈哈哈哈哈哈哈!!!!


RingoBrown

Sanguine Lives Matter!

血族的命也是命!

【这梗大家都懂吧】

 

Gengar_The_Fool

#SanguineLiveMatter

#SanguineNotVampire

#EmylnGoToJail

#SaveMeMr.Fool

#血族的命也是命

#是血族不是吸血鬼

#埃姆林进监狱吧

#愚者先生救我啊


【佛尔思揉了揉发黑的眼圈,喝下最后一口苦涩的咖啡,猛地站了起来,开始更换外出衣物。】

RoaringTurtle

The bitter taste of fear goes well with the bitter coffee

苦涩的咖啡和恐惧的苦涩味道更配哦

 

Kioga

The Fragrance of Darkness; That is Coffee.

那黑暗的芬芳,正是咖啡的味道

【出自逆转裁判中戈多的名台词。但是不是具体这么译,我没找到原文……】


【佛尔思表情扭曲了一下,闭了闭眼睛道:“希望是这样……”】

Skyfiend13

lol a series would drain her dry

哈哈哈哈连载可是会榨干你的


【隔了几条街的另一个出租屋内,经过一段时间忙碌,做好了预案和准备的克莱恩戴上“蠕动的饥饿”,身体飞快透明,进入了灵界。】

Wu_Kong

Are all the rental apartments in East borough secret bases for unaffiliated beyonders😅?

所以所有东区的出租公寓全都是非官方非凡者的秘密基地吗?

 

(回复楼上)EmeraldMountain

No, but perhaps all such secret bases are located in East Burrough.

不是,但也许所有这种秘密基地都在东区。


(回复一楼)lindatan90

Well, it has the largest population in Backlund and not much people care about the identity of people live in there after all.

嗯东区在贝克兰德的确占有最多的人口,毕竟以他们的身份而言,并没有多少人在乎住在那里的人过得如何。


【抬头看了眼覆盖高处的七道不同颜色的纯净光华,克莱恩放开两个秘偶的手臂,取出一个盒子,解除了表面的“灵性之墙”,让里面雾之魔狼絮化心脏的气息能够传出。】

Dex2

Klein's gone fishing. For seq 4, he gave the Spirit World Plunderer to be used to bait the Bizarro Bane.

Now at seq 3, he is using the same method

克莱恩这是在钓鱼啊。序列4的时候,他用灵界掠夺者来引诱诡术邪怪,现在序列3了,他又用了这一招


【它外形如同猎犬,通体覆盖漆黑短毛,眼窝位置是两团燃烧的,暗红的火焰,嘴角一直延伸到了脑后,明明以实体存在于那里,却给人一种虚幻不够真实的感觉。】

CaCao

In the fool's card there is a dog trying to bite him ... let's see how this part of the hound ends ...

在愚者牌的图像上,的确有一只试图张嘴咬他的狗……让我们看看这章里这猎犬会有什么样的结局吧……


【“……它就这么跑了?”克莱恩一边在心里愕然自语,一边更加警惕地预防着可能到来的突袭。】

sugber

An enemy more cowardly than Klein himself, what a challenge...

一个比克莱恩本人还怂的敌人,这还真是个挑战……


【可是,这两个怪物的眼窝处,分别只剩下了一团暗红的火焰,剩下的那团在它们的爪子里。】

Shtriya

are they donating for world betterment ?

它们这是要为世界大同捐款吗?


【不等克莱恩做出反应,这两条福根之犬在灵界虚空里趴了下来,摇起了尾巴。】

aryss

wow! these hounds know him? or are they familiar with the grey fog's real owner 🤔

哇哦!这些猎犬认识他?或者他们其实是认识灰雾真正的主人……

 

Observer98

What I'm wondering is how they even know what he needed specifically. Do all Hounds of Fulgrim naturally know what the Scholar of Yore formula is?

我奇怪的是,他们怎么会连他具体需要什么都知道?这些福根之犬难道全都是天生就知道古代学者配方内容?

 

(回复楼上)lindatan90

They should know which part of their own body is the source of their power. Also, they are naturally attracted to the other ingredient they need, knowing that it is what makes them "complete". So it's not hard to know what Klein needs when he Appears with the other ingredient.

它们应该是知道它们身体的哪个部分是它们的力量来源。而且,它们和其他需要的素材应该是天然相互吸引的,它们知道这是让它们变得更加“完整”的东西。所以克莱恩身上带着其他素材出现在它们面前的时候,它们知道克莱恩需要什么也就不难理解了。

 

MandabulltheMad

Who's a good doggo? Klein had fur babies and he didn't even know.

让我看看谁才是乖狗狗?克莱恩在自己不知道的情况下养了几只毛孩子,哈哈哈。


【摇起了尾巴。】

Strider1337

Don't forget to give them belly rubs!

别忘了要揉揉它们软软的小肚子!

   

(回复楼上)Yayando

He got to find a way to prepare a kind of spirit world treats too !

他还得想办法准备一顿灵界大餐好好款待它们一下!

 

Randompasserby

what the fu.... 😮

我了个c……

 

LowlifeLurker

how truly unexpected it is.. important thing should be mentioned thrice, with exclamation in the end..

now I can imagine Tarot Club unleash an army of high-sequence adorable doggie when the king attempt to complete his advancement.. 🐕🐕🐕🐕

I wonder what reaction Audrey would have after knowing about it.. 😄

这可真是完全没想到……重要的事情说三遍,结尾还得加上感叹号……

现在我能想见塔罗会在他们的王成功晋级之后,拉出一整只高序列狗狗大军的样子了……

不知道奥黛丽要是之后知道了这事会是什么反应……

 

(回复楼上)Solterage

I want to see Fors' reaction more lol.

我更想看佛尔思的反应哈哈哈哈哈

 

lindatan90

They are the dog in The Fool card. Susie, you need to try harder or your place is stolen!!!

它们就是愚者牌卡面里的狗狗。苏茜,你可得再努力一点啊,不然地位不保啊!!!

 

headlimit

the palace above the gray fog is the uniqueness of the seer pathway,or a divine kingdom of previous seer seq 0 deity,with an authority in some of the spiritworld with may or not be, related to the underworld.arodes and the hound being servile while the other yellow light play dead fake scientist being relatively friendly definitely a point in support of this.

the previous lord of mysteries either is dead and was once a transmigrator from earth/the earth is xonnected to this beyonder world via the cosmos.or it could also be because the uniqueness gain sentience and finding for it master

灰雾之上的宫殿就是占卜家途径的唯一性,要么就是前任占卜家序列0神明的神国,里面有部分灵界的权柄,也有可能和冥界有关,也有可能没有。阿罗德斯还有猎犬表现得如此顺从臣服,而那个黄光扮演的死掉的科学家表现得相对友好,这一切绝对是支撑这个理论的要点。

前任诡秘之主要么是死了,要么是曾经是地球的穿越者/地球和这个非凡者世界是通过星空关联在一起的,要么也有可能是因为唯一性活化,为自己寻找主人去了

 

(回复楼上)lindatan90

The Uniquenes of seer is with Antigonus. Previously, Pallez said that during the 4th epoch, the Zaratul He knows (current Zaratul ancestor ) planned to look for the 2nd seq 1 characteristic after the War of Four Emperors. But he encountered the half-Fool Antigonus during the war and was killed. This means that the three seq 1 characteristics were with 1) Zaratul, 2) Antigonus, and 3) unknown location. But since Antigonus is addressed as "half-Fool", it means that He is a King of Angel. And because there are only 3 seq 1 characteristics for each pathway, He must have accommodated the Uniquenes to be a King of Angel. Therefore, the Uniquenes is with Him on the Hornacis Mountain peak.

占卜家途径的唯一性在安提格努斯身上。之前,帕列兹已经说过了,第四纪的时候,他认识的那个查拉图(现在这个查拉图的祖先)曾经计划在四皇之战结束后去寻找第二份序列1的特性。但他遇到了身为半个愚者的安提格努斯,在战争期间就被杀了。这意味着三份序列1特性分别在:1)查拉图,2)安提格努斯,还有3)未知去向。但既然安提格努斯被称为“半个愚者”,这意味着他就是天使之王。而且目前只知道三份序列1特性,他必须要融合唯一性才能成为天使之王。因此,唯一性就在他身上,目前位于霍纳奇斯山山顶。

 

(回复楼上)headlimit

i really have no idea what u talking bout or how u reach that conclusion with that explanation but u seem really confident with ur argument hence it must be right then.haha

我完全没懂你说的这些东西还有你是怎么得出这个结论的,但你好像对你的话很有自信,那应该就是对的吧,哈哈哈

 

(回复楼上)Dr_SaltedFish

Antigonus was called half-fool back in the day, it was also known that old Zaratul is the other seq 1 and he had clues on where the final seq 1 was at. Meaning for Antigonus to be "half-fool"/King of angels he has to have accommodated the uniqness. Sanity aside, since Antigonus is still alive, the uniqness must still be with him.

安提格努斯之前被称为“半个愚者”,而且我们已知老查拉图是另一个序列1,他也知道最后一个序列1在哪里。这意味着安提格努斯要够格被称为“半个愚者”/天使之王的话,他必须要融合唯一性。撇开有没有理智不谈,既然安提格努斯还活着,那这份唯一性就应该还在他身上。


(回复楼上)headlimit

ok.but why is half fool considered a king of angel?really dont know.another question,does all king of angel must have uniqueness?the tri spirit red angel is king also right?i dont think he has the uniqueness.although it is mention amon and adam was born with the uniqueness,and i might have forgotten it but i really dont recall the red angel mention as having war pathway uniqueness.

likewise evernight trying to consume the fake death which if i recall correctly is a death pathway uniqueness getting sentience/the old death trying to revive via mr azik plus the uniqueness.

now..fight me!

i dont like assumption as i find it meaningless as thats the author job to entertain us with good plot,but i do love reading in between the line for the hidden subtle point.and it helps the other reader enjoy the novel more.and LoM is good in this aspect.

好吧。但为什么半个愚者就是天使之王呢?我真的不懂。还有一个问题,所有的天使之王都必须有唯一性吗?那个三合一恶灵红天使也是对吧?我可不觉得他有唯一性。虽然之前提过阿蒙和亚当都是天生自带唯一性,我也可能忘了一些细节,但我真的不记得红天使有提过他有战争途径的唯一性。就像是黑夜试图消化假死神一样,如果我没记错的话,那事就是死亡途径唯一性知性化/旧死神试图通过阿兹克先生加上唯一性复活。

所以现在……和我辩一下吧!

我不喜欢瞎假设,因为我感觉这毫无意义,而且这是作者的工作,他就是需要用好的情节设计来娱乐我们,但我也的确喜欢逐字逐句咀嚼出字里行间隐藏的微妙细节。这也的确能提升其他读者阅读这本书时获得的乐趣。而且诡秘在这方面做得的确很好。

 

(回复楼上)tomi97origin

red angel did have the uniqueness of red priest pathway. That's why he has 3 lines honorable title.

To be King of Angels you have to have either at least 2 sequence 1 characteristics or 1 characteristic and uniqueness

There are only 3 sequence 1 characteristics.

If Zaratul has 1, knows about another one and Antigonus has one. Then there is only the uniqueness left.

Antigonus was called half-fool meaning he was something more than normal sequence 1 angel.

He couldn't have more than one sequence 1 characteristics as there are no left we have already accounted for all 3. This makes it clear, that he has to have accommodated the uniqueness.

Since he is still alive the uniqueness should still be with him.

Following the logic and all available information. This is the only possible explanation

红天使的确有红祭司途径的唯一性。这也是他能用三段式尊名的原因。

要成为天使之王,你要么有至少两个序列1特性,或者有一个特性+唯一性

目前只有3个序列1特性。

如果查拉图是1,那我们知道另一个存在还有安提格努斯都有1个。那就只剩下唯一性了。

安提格努斯被称为半个愚者,意味着他有一些比普通序列1天使更强的地方。

他不可能有超过1个的序列1特性,因为其他的都有归属了,而且我们已经发现所有3的持有者了。这就很清楚了,他肯定是融合了唯一性。

既然他还活着,那唯一性肯定就还在他身上。

根据逻辑推理还有所有目前的已知信息,这就是唯一可能的解释

 

(回复楼上)headlimit

interesting.where or when was it mention that having three lines title equivalent to king?the old angels was considered subs god already and has their true name and title too but no uniqueness if im not mistaken

有意思。是什么时候,在哪里有提过拥有三段式的尊名就等于天使之王的?以前天使被称为从神的时候,他们已经有自己的神名和尊名什么的了,但他们可没有唯一性啊,如果我没弄错的话


(回复楼上)tomi97origin

In a chapter 1086 it's written, that Medici has the standard deity's honorific name, because he has accommodated the uniqueness.

In a chapter 61 it's said that 3 line description is for gods.

There is also one other difference.

Sea God Kalvetua has a name starting with "Blessed of the sea and spirit world" and 4 line description.

Neither Medici nor any other God is blessed of something. They are always the symbol.

I believe that under normal circumstances these that didn't accommodated uniqueness has name starting with blessed.

Klein's circumstances should be special as he is using the gray fog.

1086章里面有写过,梅迪奇拥有标准的,真神的尊名,因为他融合过唯一性。

61章里也写过,三段式尊名是真神用的。

而且还有一个区别的地方。

海神卡维图瓦的尊名是以“大海与灵界的眷者”开头的,还有四句描述。

不管是梅迪奇,还是任何神明,都不会说自己是什么东西的眷者。他们永远都是象征的符号。

我相信在正常情况下,没有融合唯一性的都得用眷者作为尊名的开头。

克莱恩的情况应该比较特殊,因为他用的是灰雾。

 

(回复楼上)headlimit

but klein pseudo deity name came from whatever chinese ritual that he came up with from earth right?

and the thing about name irregardless of how many line is to be very specific in order to reach and refer to that particular identity or deity.not because of more power equal to less name line.

and like the old subs god,they too wasnt a blessed of anything,each representing an authority albeit smaller in influence but in actuality they were just angel level sequence in klein's current timeline standard.

otherwise at the time of plotting the fall of the ancient sun god,the sub gods would also be a blessed of the sun god or creator etc,but nope each of them were a minor god in their own respective field of authority.like dawn.dragon of wisdom.dragon of imagination.some deities even has overlApping authorities.that would be conflicting what with there so many uniqueness then.author mislook these points?or im still missing things?

但克莱恩的伪尊名是来自那个让他从地球穿过来的那个什么中国仪式的,对吧?

而且关于尊名方面,能有多少段应该是非常具体的,已经定死了的,才能指向某个存在或者神明。不是什么段落更少,力量更强什么的。

就像那些以前的从神一样,他们也不是什么东西的眷者,每个人代表的都是一个小一点的权柄,相对影响力更小一点,但在克莱恩现在所处的时代中的标准,其实他们也只是天使级序列而已。

不然在谋划远古太阳神的陨落的时候,那些从神们也都应该是什么太阳神的或者造物主的眷者之类的,但不是,他们每个人都是自己所在的领域里的稍小一些的神明,执掌小一点的权柄。比如晨曦,智慧之龙,空想之龙。有些神明的权柄甚至是相互重叠的。要是有这么多唯一性,那岂不是相互冲突了吗。是作者看错了吗?还是我漏掉了什么东西?

 

(回复楼上)tomi97origin

Dragon of wisdom was still just angel. Those minor gods were just angels.

It's just that the term angel was invented by Ancient sun God and before that they were known as subsidiary gods

We don't know any honorific name of those minor gods from that time.

Honorific name can change over time depending on you gaining or loosing level/authorities

智慧之龙那会还只是个天使。这些小神也只是天使。

只是天使这个词是被远古太阳神发明的,在那之前他们被称作从神而已

我们目前还没见到任何一个当时的小神的尊名。

尊名也是可以随着时间改变的,这取决于你是否有获得或失去权柄/位阶

 

(回复楼上)headlimit

honorific name changing overtime?and changes as one loses or gain level?

i doubt that though as there a bunch of fallen god and angel and newly arising ones,but we not made aware of their name changing.and exavtly as you says.these sub gods are just angel in modern standard.but sayin their true name or looking at their true form irregardless cause death and harm,vause only seq 0 is considered god.seq 1 is still an angel king or not,uniqueness or not.

so i would say half fool still dont necessarily equates to king of angel but maybe just saying antigonus is super strong?and it still doesnt equate to having uniqueness makes one a king of angel in general terms.right?

尊名会随着时间改变?还会随着等级上升或者下降改变?我很怀疑这一点,陨落的神明和天使可是有一大堆,新近崛起的也是,但我们都不知道他们的尊名到底变没变过。而且就如你所说,这些从神在现在的标准来看都只是天使。但无论你是念了真神的尊名或者直视他们的真身都会导致死亡或者受伤,因为只有序列0算是神,序列1无论有没有唯一性,也就只是天使之王而已。

所以我会说,半个愚者也并不等于天使之王,但也许只是说明安提格努斯特别强?而且一般来说这也依然不意味着拥有唯一性就能让一个存在成为天使之王,对吧?

 

SirZapdos

if this is other novel, I'd suspect that it's the pinnacle beast taming technique 🤣

换成其他小说,我就会怀疑这是什么神级驯兽术之类的玩意了哈哈哈哈

 

(回复楼上)headlimit

9 star zhang master teacher,is that you?

九星名师张大师,是你吗?

【出自天道图书馆。】

 

Ukeme_Zanny_Inyang

Lol.. Whattttttttt!

哈哈哈哈哈……啥——!


【“……”克莱恩嘴巴半张,怀疑自己在做梦。】

Ozwin

Wut

 

KlyntarSupremacy

The only option is to take'em home!!!!

现在只能把它们全都带回家了!!!!!


Shtriya

These hounds knows how to deal with life . They know how to make a choice with life and death .

This is really unexpected .

这些猎犬很清楚怎么才能保命。他们知道在生命和死亡中间应该选哪个。

这可真是万万没想到。

 

tpk

They door keeper for sefirah castle so

它们可是源堡的守门人,所以……

 

desertfox

Keyword: Sefirah Castle Keepers. The gray fog might be the Sefirah Castle and the hounds are the gray fog's gatekeepers.

关键词:源堡看守者。灰雾可能就是源堡,而这些猎犬是灰雾的守门人。

 

(回复楼上)BrokenMortal

I like that theory 👏

我喜欢这个推测

 

(回复一楼)jckars

What is this sefirah?

这个源堡是什么?

 

(回复楼上)Anna_94

the official nane of Source burger/source Castel or commonly know as The Grey Castel, the place where those cocon reside

是源头汉堡/起源堡垒的正式译名,或者一般被俗称为灰雾堡垒,就是放那些光茧的地方

【看的出来外国读者在用机翻啃中文生肉的时候,对于“源堡”这个词遇到了很多理解上的问题……】

 

(回复楼上)jckars

Where did we first saw this term? On which chapter?

我们第一次看见这个词是在哪来着?哪一章?

 

(回复楼上)lindatan90

The term was first mentioned in the Scholar of Yore formula, to describe the hound of Fulgrim as Sefirah Castle Keeper. As for what it means, you will need to wait for a few more chapters.

第一次提到这个词是在古代学者配方上,把福根之犬称作源堡看守者。至于它的意思是什么,再过几章你就知道了。


Braccer1

sad, but onee of the 2 needs to bed put down for his powers

难过,但它们两个之中总要有一个为了他获取新的力量而牺牲

 

(回复楼上)Danshire

no they both removed one eye each

so no they are nor blind neither dead it seems

不它们两个各挖了一只眼睛

所以不会的,现在看来它们既不会因此瞎掉,也不会死掉

 

Alloysius

Cerberus meets Hades

当地狱犬遇上了哈迪斯

 

Anna_94

Really remind me of Sherlock Holmes The Hound of bakerville

这真的让我想到了夏洛克·福尔摩斯的巴斯克威尔的猎犬

 

YuckaMountain

Klein in future, enjoying winter in cabin with two hounds (of Fulgrim) laying on carpet near the fireplace...

未来的克莱恩,就可以在小木屋里和两只(福根)猎犬惬意的躺在壁炉旁的地毯上享受冬天了……


【1126章(红祭司-180章)“出乎意料”】

Randompasserby

Laughing my ass off at Emlyn accidentally getting "invited" for a cup of coffee in the basement of the Evernight Cathedral as well 🤣😂

埃姆林意外被邀请到黑夜教堂的地下室“喝茶”的时候我屁股都笑掉了23333

 

GoodWithAToaster

I forgot the formula already. Does he just need a pair of eyes from a hound of fulgrim? That’s what popped into my head when it mentioned that they’d each removed an eye. That way they still get to keep their sight somewhat and don’t have to be butchered. If that’s all he needs then these are some bright-minded and decisive creatures.

我已经忘了配方内容是啥了。他是需要一只福根之犬的一对眼睛吗?我看到它们各自挖了一只眼睛的时候,这个问题立刻就浮现在我脑海中了。如果不是的话,那它们还是能保证自己不失明的,而且也不用被杀了。如果他只需要这些的话,那它们可真是挺聪明也挺果决的生物。

 

(回复楼上)Tetractys

Oh, you're absolutely right!

哦,你说的完全没错!


(回复一楼)BrokenMortal

He needs a pair of eyes and 100ml of their blood. I wonder how he will get that? All that is left is historic documents.

他需要一对眼睛和100毫升它们的血。不知道他要怎么拿到这些东西?剩下的就只有历史记录文件了。

 

(回复楼上)Jay_Crew10

The dogs just gouged out one of their eyes.

这两只狗不是已经自挖一只眼睛了吗。

 

(回复一楼)Dex2

Aaah, You're right! He only needs a pair of eyes. Since they are giving them up, they don't even need to die. Thanks for reminder.

Here are the needed things:

✔ Main ingredients

- Hound of Fulgrim pair of eyes

- One Demonic Wolf of Dog's transformed heart (given by Evernight)

✔ Supplementary Ingredients

- 100ml of Hound of Fulgrim blood

- 30 grams of White Frost Crystal of Demonic Wolf of Fog (given by Evernight)

- a large amount of real ancient historical records

啊,你说得对!他只是需要一对眼睛而已。既然它们自己献上了眼睛,那它们也不用死了。感谢提醒。

下面是他需要的东西一览:

✔ 主材

- 福根之犬的一对眼睛

- 雾之魔狼的絮状心脏(由黑夜提供)

✔ 辅材

- 100毫升的福根之犬血液

- 雾之魔狼的白霜结晶30克

- 大量真实的古代历史记录

 

PreHIZtoricDevil

The fool card shows a guy near the cliff with a dog. so these are the that is similar to the fool card. they will be his pet?.

The card im talking about is when you search the fool tarot card in google not from the novel.

愚者牌的牌的卡面就是一个在悬崖边带着一只狗的人。所以现在发生的这一切还挺像卡面内容的。它们会成为克莱恩的宠物吗?

我说的卡面不是书里的设定,就是塔罗牌愚者牌的卡面,你们可以搜一下。

 

Ozwin

I... okay that works... can we keep them? Can we, can we?! Klein needs a whole pack of sequence 3.5 hunting hounds/guard dogs.

我……行吧这也行……我们能养这两只狗狗吗?能吗能吗?!克莱恩需要这些序列3.5的猎犬/护卫犬!

 

(回复楼上)Randompasserby

Sure, Susie needs some mystical playmates too 😁

当然,苏茜也需要一些神奇生物玩伴嘛233

 

Tetractys

Hmm, well I guess Klein's MC luck has pivoted towards "exceptionally good" this time around. It looks like one can be incorporated into the potion and the other one will be a dedicated guard dog?

唔,我猜克莱恩的主角运这次终于向着“究极好运”方向靠近了。现在看来一只狗能用进魔药里,另一只可以做忠诚的护卫犬?

 

(回复楼上)TomoyaNagase

They are spirit creatures so they probably sense the power of the Grey fog which is fusing with Klein more and more. But this means we will get the rank up soon and not only a simple rank up but he will probably digest alot of not all of the Scholar of Yore potion instantly and we all know the more of a potion you digest the more powerful your abilities become. Speaking of which we didn't have any mention of Klein's abilities improving while he digested the Bizarro Sorcerer potion. Like shouldn't his control range have increased to 1300 meters from 1000 meters and his marionettes numbers from 50 to 100 or something? Normally we had progression like that.

它们是灵界生物,所以也许它们可以感知到越发融合在克莱恩身上的灰雾的力量。但这就意味着我们也需要尽快升级了,不能只是单纯地升级,克莱恩也许会立刻消化掉很大一部分古代学者魔药。我们也知道,魔药消化得越多,你的能力就越强。说到这个,目前好像还没提过克莱恩消化了诡法师魔药之后能力的提升效果呢。比如,他的操控范围不是应该从1000米提升到也许1300米,或者秘偶数量从50提升到100什么的吗?一般来说都有这样的提升效果吧。


Jay_Crew10

Dogs are smart.

Dog 1: Hmm, who is that? Oh, soon to be ruler of the gray fog. Seems like he is weak. Oh, he's ready to advance. Let me go call my bro. *runs off*

Dog 2: Hey, bro what's the rush?

Dog 1: The soon to be ruler is ready to advance. He's here.

Dog 2: For real? Well then, you know what we need to do. Gauge out our eyes so that he rules again!

Dog 1: Exactly my thoughts.

Both one-eyed dogs a bit later: We did good.

狗狗都是很聪明的。

狗1:嗯,是谁来了?哦,是马上就要成为灰雾主宰的那位啊。看来他现在还挺弱的。哦,他已经准备好要晋升了。等我呼叫一个老哥过来。*跑走*

狗2:嘿,兄弟,什么事这么急?

狗1:马上要成为主宰的那位准备好晋升了。他就在这里。

狗2:真的吗?那,你知道我们该做什么。把我们的眼睛挖出来吧,让他再度君临于此!

狗1:我也是这么想的。

片刻后,两只狗狗:我们做得不错吧。

 

Blazss

Totally unrelated, but I had just a random thought. Amon's Uniqueness(Marauder PW) confused us as to why ASG would even consider it as it is not interchangeable on his case. So perhaps that Uniqueness came from the previous owner of the Gray Fog, dying tragically and ASG found the Uniqueness and hastily digesting but will result in accumulating the madness thus giving it to Amon.

I started to think a theory that the previous owner of it(Uniqueness and the Gray Fog) was really even more powerful than ASG because he got the Gray Fog And to acquire such power is to get the interchangeable pathways(For example Seer, Apprentice, Marauder) and especially the Gray Fog.

So who killed the previous owner of the Gray Fog? Considering the characteristics of the three pathway, it is tough to kill such person. And if he/she had been killed by ASG where's the Uniqueness of the Seer and Apprentice pathway?

和本章完全不相关,但我突然有了个想法。阿蒙的唯一性(偷盗者途径)就令人很困惑,为什么远太竟然会把这个唯一性分出来呢,这和他的途径又不可互换。所以也许那个唯一性是来自灰雾的前主人,他死掉之后远太发现了他的唯一性,就赶紧消化了,但这会导致疯狂的累积,于是就丢给了阿蒙。

我因此总结出一个理论,那就是它的前主人(唯一性和灰雾)真的是甚至比远太更强,因为他得到了灰雾,而获得这样的力量的同时,就意味着他也得到了所有的可互换途径(比如先知、学徒、偷盗者),尤其是灰雾非常强大。

所以到底是谁杀死了灰雾的前主人呢?考虑到这三条途径的特点,要杀死这样的人是很难的。而如果他/她是被远太杀死的,那么占卜家和学徒途径的唯一性又在哪里呢?

 

AKirchner

Hounds of Fulgrim: Master, here are our eyes! Aren't we your favorite subordinates?

Arrodes: I'm his most loyal servant!

福根之犬:主人,这是我们的眼睛!我们是不是你最喜欢的仆人呀?

阿罗德斯:我才是他最忠诚的仆人!

 

Heshin

It's a conspiracy I tell you!

It has all been to convenient for Klein the whole way through. Even his transmigration feels planned. The seer pathway has emphasized control the whole way through. From control of your fate, body, and identity.. To the control of others and now the control of history.. I'm getting some serious time travel vibes here. 😬 You could blame the aura but it just smells of some high end manipulation by some unknown forces. 🐕🐕

我告诉你们,这肯定是一个阴谋!

对克莱恩来说这一切都有点过于顺利了。甚至连他的穿越现在都感觉是被算计好的。占卜家途径一直在强调的概念就是控制。从控制你的命运,身体,到身份……一直到控制他人,现在还控制历史……我现在真的有很强烈的“这一切都是时间旅行类情节”的感觉。你可以说这只是主角气运,但这一切真的很有种背后被某未知力量进行了相当高妙的操纵的感觉。

 

Kyndig19

Welp its about time he got himself a pet

哎呦,他是时候给自己养一只宠物了

 

Seion_Ozora

Here i was wondering why Emyln didnt run... I mean he is still a priest... looks like he forgot, really Emyln 🤦‍♂️

我在想为什么埃姆林不逃跑呢……我的意思是,他现在还是个牧师呢……看起来他已经忘了,这真的很埃姆林


benj8

Two things I learned so far LOTM: dogs are adorable, while mushroom is absolutely disgusting.

我从诡秘之主中学会的两件事:狗狗们都超可爱的,但蘑菇绝对是最可怕恶心的东西。


【1127章(红祭司-181章)“源堡”】

Ozwin

Ahh so she wants to call Mr. Door is it? That sounds like it will be a fascinating experience, and possibly an incredibly foolish one lol.

啊所以她是要召唤门先生对吧?这听起来既令人神往,也极其愚蠢,哈哈哈

 

(回复楼上)Tetractys

I'm guessing Trissy is going to be the fall-guy should Mr. Door try anything funny.

我猜只要门先生想玩点什么花样的话,特莉丝立刻就会成为那个替罪羊。

 

(回复一楼)Randompasserby

I was afraid it'll involve the Mother Tree of Desire or Primordial Moon but yeah I think Mr. Door makes better sense actually with the portal and Abraham family connection 🤔

我怕的是这件事会牵涉到欲望母树或者原始月亮,但没错,我觉得门先生更有道理一点,毕竟既有传送门,又有亚伯拉罕家族的关系

 

magicpootang

Wait, klein already knew all of that lol. He just wasnt confident in getting anything from mr door

等等,克莱恩已经全都知道了吗23333。只是他对门先生有关的事情都不太有把握


Demoneastz

So Grayfog is a part of Sefirah Castle....

This Sequence 3 might be the easiest for Klein. All ingredients is provided with ease.

所以灰雾其实是源堡的一部分……

这个序列3对克莱恩来说可能是最简单的一个。所有材料都轻轻松松就到手了。

 

(回复楼上)Roland

Cough..cough..

Sequence 9 seer...

咳…咳…

序列9占卜家……


(回复一楼)chillytaka

Not only the ingredients, there is a high chance he will digested it completely right when he drink it

不只是材料,还有很高的几率他喝完之后直接消化呢

 

Mr_Scary_Cat

Is the gray fog really the uniqueness of the seer pathway? Because it feels like it's more special than that because of its hints to its connection to the marauder and Apprentice pathway. I don't think uniquenesses can have multiple sequences since each pathway has its own uniqueness.

这个灰雾真的就是占卜家途径的唯一性吗?因为感觉这东西比唯一性还要特殊啊,之前就暗示这东西和偷盗者还有学徒途径都有联系。我不觉得唯一性能和复数条途径产生关联,因为每个途径都有自己的唯一性。

 

(回复楼上)desertfox

Nope. Pallez told Leonard that Antigonus has the uniqueness hence why he is called the Half-Fool. As for the Sefirah Castle, I think it's a different thing but still related to the Fool Pathway or neighboring pathways since Amon is also interested in it. Also, only Angels can accomodate the uniqueness but Klein already is bound to the Sefirah Castle even withlut being a beyonder.

不是。帕列兹跟伦纳德说,安提格努斯拿到了唯一性,这也是他被称为半个愚者的原因。至于源堡,我觉得这应该是另一个东西,但依然和愚者途径或者相邻途径有关,因为阿蒙对这东西也很感兴趣。而且,只有天使能融合唯一性,但克莱恩已经和源堡绑定上了,他那个时候甚至还没成为非凡者呢。

 

Ats

Can anyone recommend a good novel to me please?

Something "different", not-cliche, enchanting, and comprehensive (not only telling about this one overpowered MC with spectacular luck and overwhelming plot armors).

I read a lot of novels, and gave up following most of those. I need more than something that makes me thrilled or curious. I need something like Lord of Mysteries.

I hope this novel stays interesting, and the author did not sacrifice quality over chapter quantity.

能来个人给我推本好书看看吗?求求了?

来点“不一样”的,不要那些老套情节,来点让人着迷的,描写比较全面的(不是完全只写一个究极无敌强运气爆表的主角还有一大堆金手指的那种)

我看过很多本小说,大部分都弃了。我需要一些能让我读的时候感到激动或者好奇的小说。一些类似诡秘这样的小说。

希望这本书能一直这样有趣下去,作者也不要为了章节数量牺牲质量,拜托了。

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