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诡秘外国网友评论节选意译 - 【1345-1347】【含本章说】

2023-03-02 17:13 作者:凌冰雪  | 我要投稿

【1345章(倒吊人-79章)又见面了】——本章说

【如果是阿蒙“寄生”格尔曼.斯帕罗这个秘偶,以克莱恩现在的位格和“源堡”之上“灵之虫”们的全天候监控,肯定能第一时间发现问题,而若是查拉图将“灵体之线”转接,也只能短暂瞒住他,且必须有“知识皇帝”或“隐秘之仆”这种天使辅助,达不到这样突然袭击的效果,唯有“观众”给予的人性能慢慢发酵,外表没有一丝一毫异常。】

BreakBreakBreak

In my opinion,the man who was educated with betray would only know that relationship and never believe in friendship I remember that some said in this book different beyonders act different,would it influent their ability?such as Adam's humanity skill is full of betray,because thats all he ever know

在我看来,从小就只被教育了如何背叛的人也只会知道这一种相处方式,他们永远不会相信友谊。我记得这本书里之前有人说过,不同的非凡者行动方式也不一样,这会不会也反映在他们的能力上?就比如亚当的各种技能都是背叛,背叛和背叛,因为这就是他唯一知道的东西


【“源堡”内的“灵之虫”们接收到了他的意志,放弃了这个秘偶的“灵体之线”,并拿起“星之杖”,准备给克莱恩致命一击,自己杀死自己。】

Dex2

A final "giving the finger" to an unruly marionette 😤

对于某个不守规矩的秘偶最后的“竖起某根手指”


【知道亚当是幕后操纵者后,他已不抱任何侥幸。】

Shtriya

Now u have done it . Be ready to die adam .

既然你敢干出这些事情。准备去死吧,亚当。


【这漩涡延伸出一条条滑腻奇异的触手,疯狂地拍打着周围,掀翻了杂物堆,毁灭了斑驳长桌。】

BarabanPlato

Nooo, not the junk pile!

不——,不要打垃圾堆啊!!


【克莱恩的分身与本体断掉了联系,而本体又未真正死去,所以,它们失控了,疯狂了,就像当初的查拉图一样。】

Aeonmist

1 worm of spirit can turn into the mythical creature form? Kinda op

1条灵之虫就可以变成神话生物形态?那还有点挂壁的


【亚当给予的只有人性,没有空想出来的生命,因为后者会被发现。】

Frosty_Wings

That's cruel.

太残忍了。


Skirata

why did giving him humanity make him stab Klein?

为什么给他人性他就会去背刺克莱恩了?


【他死在了这片废墟中。】

Aby55

Died in the past? oh boy...a lot of shenanigans the author could do with this

死在了过去?哦,孩子……作者可是可以用这一点玩很多花样的


【“于祂而言,你成为旧日,就意味着祂必然陨落,可如果是阿蒙成为旧日,祂只要表现出自己的忠诚,依旧可以保留现在的位格和层次,‘诡秘之主’总是需要‘诡秘侍者’的。】

CenserBearer

Im wondering who would be klein's attendant of mysteries when he become lord of the mysteries

我在想,等到克莱恩成为诡秘之主之后,谁会是他的诡秘侍者


(回复楼上)Zoruakun

He needs all three sequence 1 characteristics so he does not need nor can have an attendant of mysteries.

他需要所有3个序列1特性,所以他不需要,也不会有诡秘侍者。


(回复楼上)Santari

A sequence 0 means there cannot be a sequence 1 but if one is above the sequences (for example omnipotent and omniscient God or Lord of Mysteries) there can be sequence 1s. This is proven by the ancient sun god and 'His' Kings of Angels.

一个序列0意味着不会存在序列1,但是如果是序列之上(比如全知全能的上帝或者诡秘之主),那就可以有序列1。这一点已经通过远古太阳神和“祂”的天使之王们证实了。


(回复一楼)Skyfiend13

Himself 😂like always

他自己啊23333一如既往


【那是一块灰扑扑的石板,表面多有斑驳痕迹残留,显得颇为沧桑。】

Anna_94

lmao imagine if the stone slab actually iPad 😂

哈哈哈哈想象一下如果这块石板其实是ipad


【杀了我吧……克莱恩在心里咕哝了一句。】

Redwinter

"Later..." Big bonus points to whoever gets this reference...

“过会再说……”如果有人懂了这个梗,给你们加分……

【一个出自TF2军团要塞2的梗,冰箱里spy的头说了一句“杀了我……”然后医生应付道“过会再说”】


(回复楼上)Aaaalison

Call me by your name?

是Call me by your name?


(回复楼上)Redwinter

Meet the medic. look it up on YT

是医生的梗。你在油管自己查下


(回复一楼)Manaworkz

spy should have quit while he was a head

spy应该在他还只有个头的时候就退出的


【上帝、创造者、造物主、全知全能者、星界之主:】

Observer98

Between this and Longinus having been a thing, it makes me wonder what pathway Jesus was from and what his Sequence was. Or perhaps it takes the idea of the father, son and holy spirit all being one and he was actually a smurf of the God Almighty that existed back then?

既然有这种设定,而且朗基努斯之枪真的存在,这就让我开始思考,耶稣到底是哪条途径的,他的序列又会是什么。或者也许这就是采用了圣父,圣灵,圣子三位一体的理念,祂其实就是当时存在的上帝的一个小号?


(回复楼上)nguyensonhai

Well, Jesus can do the storm things, light and fire things, the Garden of Eden, made humans, know all,... so you guess

嗯,耶稣可以制造风暴,闪电和火焰,还有伊甸园,还能制造人类,还知晓一切……所以你猜呢


【“混沌海”+“空想家”唯一性+“太阳”唯一性+“暴君”唯一性+“白塔”唯一性+“倒吊人”唯一性+1份“作家”非凡特性+1份“纯白天使”非凡特性+1份“雷神”非凡特性+1份“全知之眼”非凡特性+1份“暗天使”非凡特性。】

SphereSama

wait... visionary uniqueness? so he is asg

等等……空想家唯一性?所以他是远太


(回复楼上)Tukang_Sampah

dude, Adam himself is a sequence 0 visionary, so he already has the uniqueness

兄弟,亚当自己就是序列0空想家,所以他已经有唯一性了


(回复楼上)shuiery

adam had the visionary uniqueness when asg still alive.

远太还活着的时候亚当就有空想家唯一性了。


(回复楼上)idoking12

could be a persona

可能是他的身份之一


(回复楼上上)Tukang_Sampah

this will be explained in the next chapter

这个下一章会解释


Observer98

White Tower and Omniscient Eye huh. The Reader pathway really feels like the most under explored one of all.

白塔和全知之眼哈?阅读者途径真的感觉是曝光最少,最需要探索的途径之一。


(回复楼上)Anna_94

just like how author forgot about Edwina. she have big potential represent that pathway but Cattleya suddenly pop up and stole the spot.

就像作者现在已经把艾德雯娜忘了一样。之前明明感觉她在展示她的途径这方面有很多的潜力,但嘉德丽雅突然出现,然后把她的位置抢走了。


(回复楼上)tpk

Cattleya is from Mystery Pryer pathway (hermit)

嘉德丽雅是窥秘人途径的(隐者)


(回复楼上)mxzptlk

you misunderstood their comment

你理解错他的意思了


OLIYAN

So there can be a God and Sequence 1 Angel at the same time since it only need ONE Beyonder Characteristic of each path!

所以真神和序列1天使可以同时存在咯,因为每条途径只需要一个非凡特性!


(回复楼上)Zoruakun

No, that is not possible. A Great Old One still needs to be a god from one pathway (three sequence 1 and an uniqueness) while incorporating the uniquenesses and sequence 1 characteristics of the neighboring ones. From the same path it is impossible even if a god became an old one, he needs to continue being a god in order to not fall to a king of angels' level and die of madness from his myriad characteristics from neighboring pathways.

不,这是不可能的。一个旧日还是需要成为某条途径的真神(3个序列1+唯一性),而且还要融合相邻途径的唯一性和序列1特性。同一条途径里,即使真神成为了旧日,也是不可能同时存在天使的,他必须要保持真神的状态才能不会掉到天使之王的级别,不然他就会因为体内相邻途径的唯一性和杂乱的特性而发疯死掉。


DJ_Yasaqua

I hope the White Tower pathway is explored upon more in the second book, it’s pretty cool

我希望白塔途径能在第二部中得到更多的展示。这个真的很酷


【诡秘之主、时空之王、命运道标、源堡化身、灵界支配者:】

Anna_94

the MC from throne magical arcana also have ability related to space and time right?

奥术神座的主角好像也有和时空相关的能力对吧?


(回复楼上)idoking12

from what I know space time tends to be the peak of knowledge and power in cultivation

据我所知,时空经常被设定为是修仙小说里最难最顶尖的能力


(回复楼上)Bard_Fall

Thats just a perspective From a more creative perspective Fire can burn space-time Water can manipulate space time Earth can seal speace time

我这也就是提供一个新角度,从有点创意的角度来说,火焰可以灼烧时空,水可以操纵时空,土可以封印时空


【“源堡”+“愚者”唯一性+“错误”唯一性+“门”唯一性+1份“诡秘侍者”非凡特性+1份“时之虫”非凡特性+1份“星之匙”非凡特性。】

Observer98

Is this the first confirmation we've gotten that Sequence 0 of the Apprentice pathway is called Door? It's pretty much been hinted all along but I don't remember anyone outright confirming this.

这是不是我们第一次得到正式确认,学徒的序列0就叫做门?之前一直是这么暗示的,但我不记得有没有人出来正面证实这一点了。


(回复楼上)OLIYAN

Yes, since I read the Chinese version and I don't remember anyone mentioned it, it is just Mr. Door call himself as Mr. Door.

是的,我看的是中文版,我不记得有其他任何人提到过这个,只有门先生管自己叫门先生这段。


idoking12

I see a preferential treatment toward the seer pathway

我看到了占卜家途径的特殊待遇啊


(回复楼上)Bard_Fall

Author Worm of time Key of Star Oroburos Red priest Criminal Number 1 sequence they are all op in their own way...

作家,时之虫,星之匙,水银之蛇,红祭司,罪犯,他们的序列1都各有自己的挂壁之处……


(回复楼上)idoking12

I meant in the lord of mysteries trio

我是说在苟三家里


【说到这里,祂微微一笑道: “我们又见面了,诡秘。”】

TomoyaNagase

Has something awaked inside of Klein already?

克莱恩体内是已经有什么东西觉醒了吗?


(回复楼上)OLIYAN

Yes, the original LOTM is awaking. It would be mentioned later.

是的,原初的诡秘已经觉醒了。之后会提到的。


(回复楼上)Luofuchen

Do not post spoilers. What is spoiler? If you post/reveal content from future chapter. Do not spoil anything. Even if people are asking direct questions.

不要发剧透内容。什么叫剧透?如果你发布/透露了任何未来章节的内容,那就叫剧透。不要剧透任何内容。即使有人发布了相关问题也不行。


(回复二楼)Santari

It has already been mentioned some chapters ago. This is not a spoiler. The Lord of Mysteries that is awakening is equivalent to The Original Creator (that is awakening inside Klein).

几章之前其实已经提到了。这不是剧透。和原初造物主同等的诡秘之主已经在觉醒了(在克莱恩体内)。


(回复一楼)Bard_Fall

Beyounder is to become more and becoming more mean being less human and becoming more of the path the beyounder takes So any one reaching sequence 0 or Great old ones will embodi part of the previous entity in a way once you become sequence 0 or great old one you are immortal as a result (not spoiler this can be easily concluded from all previous chapters)

非凡者的晋升都是会有越来越多特性的,越来越多就意味着人性的部分更少,非凡途径的部分更多,所以任何一个到了序列0或者旧日级别的人,都会体现出这条途径之前的存在的某些特征,只要你到了序列0或者旧日级别,结果就是你已经成为了不朽的非人存在(这不是剧透,你可以轻易从之前的章节里总结出来)


WarStrider72

Hello, Ancient Sun God

你好,远太


SphereSama

i knew it

我就知道


ThisDaddy

what? no, how is it possible?

什么?不,这怎么可能?


Shtriya

so he decided to tell him finally😅

所以他终于决定要告诉他了


YuriLover212

I see... So it really is him.

我懂了……所以真的是他。


【1345章(倒吊人-79章)又见面了】

Demoneastz

“We meet again, Mysteries.” -Adam

“又见面了,诡秘。”——亚当


All_Night

So Adam is actually the Ancient Sun God... because when Klein looked back in time using the Unshadowed Crucifix. He looked at him and called him “Mysteries”.

所以亚当其实是远古太阳神……因为克莱恩之前用无暗十字架看到过去的远太的时候,他看向了他,然后叫他“诡秘”。


Tetractys

According to the second Blasphemy Slate, there isn't a ritual at all for ascension. I guess that makes it easier with just the Sephirot, Uniquenesses, and sequence one characteristics. At this point, Klein is definitely not going to free himself under his own power. It'll be up to him convincing "Adam" or getting outside help. At any rate, Klein is more or less under divine house arrest until Amon comes to collect his due. It'll probably be another exposition chapter coming up next. Looking forward to some juicy revelations!

根据第二块亵渎石板的内容,晋升本身其实并不需要仪式。我猜只有源质,唯一性和序列1特性的话应该会更简单一点吧。现在,克莱恩绝对没办法通过他自己的力量逃出去了。现在完全取决于他能不能说服“亚当”或者从外界获得帮助了。不论如何,克莱恩差不多就是被锁在神国里了,只能等到阿蒙来收取他的战利品。下一章可能大部分都是揭秘说明内容。迫不及待想看美味的揭秘环节了!


Whisky_007

Daddy creator back to the game.

造物主爸爸回到了游戏。


Sam_SG

Is Adam the ancient sun God or am I thinking of something else? Then what is The True Creator?

亚当是远古太阳神吗?还是说我想错了?那真实造物主又是谁?


(回复楼上)Ozwin

He is the ancient sun god which means he is from the same era as Klein. “Mysteries” is what he said when Klein gazed far into the past when looking at the origin of the unshadowed crucifix... Adam is how the Ancient Sun God is reviving himself... *gazes high into the sky as this chapter had a lot to take in and consider*

他是远古太阳神,这就意味着他和克莱恩是来自同一个时代的。“诡秘”是克莱恩通过观察无暗十字架的起源时瞥见远太,远太对克莱恩的称呼……亚当就是远古太阳神复活自己的方法……*远目中,这一章真的有很多需要仔细思考的地方*


(回复一楼)Ozwin

Oh sorry forgot the second question. The true creator is another piece the Ancient sun god cut off from himself when he discovered that he was losing his own will and slowly becoming the previous big god in an arrangement to defeat himself and try to get rid of the corruption via revival.

哦抱歉,忘记了还有第二个问题。真实造物主是远古太阳神发现自己正在逐渐失去自我意识,慢慢变成之前的那个造物主之后,从他自己身上切下来的另一个部分,这个部分被安排在将来击败他自己,试图通过复活的过程来摆脱污染。


(回复一楼)Byakuei86

according to Klein theories the 1st God Almighty already perish but like how it goes with Klein and former Lord of Mysteries he can still revive using the body of people who in pathway that under it... if u talking about True Creator that in forsaken Land of god and god for Aurora Order it was said in previous chapter that it 1 of persona created by ASG to resist primordial

根据克莱恩的推测,第一个上帝已经消亡了,但就像克莱恩和上一代诡秘之主的关系一样,他还是可以在任何一个走他的途径的人身上复活……如果你说的是真实造物主,也就是在神弃之地生活的那个神,也是极光会信仰的神,前几章有提到过,他是远太为了抵御初始制造出来的一个身份


TomoyaNagase

All of these developments are quite thrilling I am looking forward to the next couple of chapters!

这些剧情发展也太惊心动魄了吧,我迫不及待想看接下来几章了!!


ThisDaddy

We meet again 😃 but no one seems to be the same, Klein is not Klein, Adam is not Adam.

我们又见面啦~但俩人看起来都和以前不太一样了,克莱恩不再是克莱恩,亚当不再是亚当。


Zarivon

Man, this means the ASG took over his own son to revive himself? Harsh. I wonder why Adam and not Amon? The Lord of the Mysteries requirements sound like an easier path to being a Great Old One. 3 pathways to murder instead of 5.

天啊,这就意味着远太其实占据了自己儿子的身份来复活自己?真是严酷。不知道为什么是亚当而不是阿蒙?诡秘之主途径成为旧日的要求听起来好像要简单一点。只需要杀光3个途径,而不是5个。


(回复楼上)Dex2

It doesn't even have to be his son. It could just be another "separated identity" of himself. We've seen/heard of Visionary pathway do this before - that Barros Hopkins (president of psychology alchemists) mentioned several identities of his, some that even died out; Hermes...

其实甚至都不一定需要是他的儿子。完全可以是他自己的随便哪个“独立身份”。我们都已经见到/听到了,之前空想家途径的人就干过这件事——那个巴洛斯·霍普金斯(心里炼金会的首席)提到过他有好几重身份,有些身份甚至已经宣布死亡;赫密斯……


Byakuei86

still think what Adam/ASG doing kind of pointless for himself(only benefit Amon since he still can become great old one IF Klein is not the MC)... to become great old one he need to fight at least 3 deity class for the uniqueness and i doubt they will be willing to give it him too everytime sequence 2 Error pathway is mention i laugh because it remind me of computer virus XD still what about the last sentence from Adam?? did he think Klein is like him or this is another preparation from author to give us more surprise

我还是觉得亚当/远太做得事情对他自己来说有点毫无意义啊(这一切只对阿蒙有好处,因为如果克莱恩不是主角,他还是能成为旧日)……为了成为旧日,他得战胜至少3个真神,拿到他们的唯一性,我很怀疑他们会不会乐意主动把这玩意给他……每次提到序列2错误途径我都想笑,因为我总是会想到电脑病毒XD但是,亚当这最后一句话到底是啥意思??他是觉得克莱恩和他情况一样吗,还是说这是作者准备给我们来点大惊喜的前摇


elm_in_eden

Wouldn't this mean that Ankewelt was a great old one or at least attempting to become one? Since he had a Sequence 1 subsidiary,

这不就意味着安格尔威德其实之前是个旧日吗,或者至少试图成为旧日过?因为他已经有一个序列1从神了。


(回复楼上)HeinousFox

I think that was something a sequence 0 of his pathway can do, not necessarily a great old one I think. Maybe the same as Amon, who can even create a clone who have the strength of sequence 1 if he get enough characteristics. I would think about that as he creating a new persona of himself, that probably make he more weak than a pure sequence 0, but it allowed him to create a sequence 1. But if he was a Great Old One, since he only needs 1 characteristics and the uniqueness of each pathway, he could separate 2 spare ones he used to ascend to sequence 0 in the beginning to create a King of Angels, or if he tried using more than one characteristics from another pathway he can give up on the idea and pass it on.

我感觉这一点应该在他这条途径的序列0能力范围之内,并不一定非要成为旧日才能做到。也许就和阿蒙一样,如果他获得的特性足够多,他甚至能制造一个和序列1同等强度的分身。我会觉得他应该是创造了自己的一个新身份,也许这让他比纯粹的序列0更弱了,但这也让他能够制造出一个序列1。但如果他之前真的是旧日,既然他只需要1个特性和每条途径的唯一性,那他刚开始创造天使之王的时候,完全可以分出他原本用来晋升序列0的2个空余特性。又或者如果他曾经尝试过使用其他途径的特性来创造天使之王,那他完全可以放弃之前这个主意,转而使用这个方法。


(回复楼上)Dex2

You're right that it is a specialty of Visionary but on the separating the characteristics, if you look at it again, a great old one can't separate the characteristics they need to become a deity to give to someone else. According to Adam, they only need seq 1+uniqueness of neighbouring paths but for their own pathway, they need them all. Otherwise, it would be no issue for Zaratul to survive since Klein wouldn't have needed the seq 1 he has.

关于空想家的特殊你的确说对了,但是关于分裂特性的部分,如果你再重看一遍的话,你会发现旧日是没办法把特性分离出去给别人的,因为他们需要成为真神才能做到这一点。根据亚当的说法,他们只需要相邻途径的序列1+唯一性,但对于他们自己的途径,他们需要全部的特性。否则的话,对查拉图来说活命也没什么问题了,因为克莱恩就没必要非要拿到他的序列1特性了。


Foxvolant

To get caught like that... was that the idea from the get go...? Or did mysteries arrange this meeting?

就这么被抓住了……是一开始就埋藏了这样的想法吗?还是说是诡秘安排了这次会面?


【1346章(倒吊人-80章)“空想家”的特殊】——本章说

ThisDaddy

not uniqueness...huh .

是特殊,不是唯一性吗……哈。


【真实造物主等于收回了萨斯利尔人格后的远古太阳神“恶灵”。】

bookoflogos

So Rosago was killed by LOTM (Klein) and ASGs’ (TCC) ganged up

所以罗萨戈是被诡秘(克莱恩)和远太(真实造物主)联手才杀死的……


【又见面了,诡秘……亚当等于远古太阳神?或者远古太阳神的复活后手?祂知道这一点,却依旧想要复活祂的父亲,所以被梅迪奇称为“偏执狂”?克莱恩脑海内闪过了一个又一个念头,对之前的某件事情有了全新的理解:】

TomoyaNagase

Well it's his own father and if he thinks it's the only way to stop the apocalypse then it seems like a reasonable decision. I believe quite alot of people would take an option of sacrificing themselves to not only revive a passed away relative but save all of the planet at the same time.

嗯,这可是他的亲爹,而且如果他觉得这是唯一能拯救世界阻止末日的方法,那这个决定看起来也挺合理。我相信很多人如果知道牺牲自己不仅能复活过世的亲人,还能拯救这颗星球的话,都会做出一样的选择的。


【他沉默了两秒后,看着亚当似乎不含一点杂质的淡色眼眸道: “你是远古太阳神?”】

Verez

can't wait for the next meeting.

迫不及待想看下次塔罗会了。


【亚当保持着牧师和煦的微笑,用启发的口吻说道: “你不觉得八大天使之王里,我是最为特殊的那个吗?】

SmolSardine

You're also the most narcissistic 🙄

你也是最自恋的那个


Pl4yful_5k3p71c

Bruh: 🧐

噗……


SilverCompass

somehow this "warm smile" makes him look punchable. probably bcs of how he acts

不知为何这个“和煦的微笑”让他看起来非常欠揍。也许是因为他的表现就是很欠揍吧


【“正常的序列0由‘唯一性’加三份序列1非凡特性组成,缺失任何一个,都不能称为真神,只能算天使之王,而‘空想家’可以在成为序列0后,分离两份序列1非凡特性出来,以‘空想’出的相应特性代替。】

Tukang_Sampah

so OP

这也太挂壁了


Anna_94

so if seer bullsht skill is "grafting" and this one is "envision" imagine the other 20 pathways.

所以如果占卜家的挂壁技能是“嫁接”的话,那空想家的就是“空想”……想象一下其他的20条途径会是啥。


(回复楼上)Tukang_Sampah

envision is sequence 0 skill while grafting is sequence 1 skill, so seer ultimate skill is not yet revealed

空想是序列0级别的技能,而嫁接是序列1,所以占卜家的终极大招还没揭露过呢


memehilist

Tyrant seq4: "MOAR LIGHTNING" seq3: "MOOAR LIGHTNING" seq2: "MOOOAR LIGHTNING" seq1: "EVEN MOOOAR LIGHTNING" seq0: food for the Almighty

暴君序列4:“大闪电!”序列3:“超大闪电!”序列2:“超超超大闪电!”序列1:“究极无敌大闪电!”序列0:上帝的盘中餐


(回复楼上)Observer98

Tyrant might legit be the worst pathway. The highest level ability Leodero has used is just bigger lightning, something that everyone and their father can avoid with the ubiquitous teleportation.

感觉暴君就是货真价实的最差途径了。列奥德罗目前用过的最高阶技能真的就是劈大号闪电而已,这东西每个人和他们的爹都可以通过使用超远距离传送来规避吧。


(回复楼上)Bone_God

hey the lightning gets faster too!!

嘿,高级的闪电劈下来的速度也更快呢!!


【“而对‘全知全能者’来说,可以‘创造’一份介于真实与虚幻之间的‘唯一性’来维持自身状态,只要不超过必要的限度。”】

Tukang_Sampah

once again, so OP

重复一次,这也太挂壁了


(回复楼上)Fantasmal

well he is omnipotent and omniscient

嗯,他毕竟是全知全能啊


Observer98

I'm starting to think God Almighty might be more powerful than Lord of the Mysteries. Envisioning alone seems more impressive than anything the cowards can do.

我开始觉得上帝可能比诡秘之主还要强了。光是空想这个技能就比任何苟三家的技能都强了。


(回复楼上)Observer98

Also does this not mean he can envision himself back to God Almighty status or is the Uniqueness thing limited to his own pathway?

而且这不就意味着他可以用空想把自己恢复到上帝状态的时候了吗?还是说唯一性会有限制,让他只能留在自己目前途径的状态?


(回复一楼)HeinousFox

Well, it is 5 pathway while Lord of the Mysteries is 3, God Almighty is probably the most powerful and very combat related. Lord of the Mysteries is probably the most annoying one and it can even seal a great old one like the genie. On the other hand I pit your dear Will Icecream, his pathway don't have any neighbor, but this also mean he can become above the sequence with his sefirot alone, but is probably the weakest.

这毕竟是5条途径,而诡秘之主才3条,上帝可能是最强也最擅长战斗的。诡秘之主可能是最难搞的一个,甚至还能像封印那个灯神一样封印旧日。另一方面,我还得提到亲爱的威尔·冰淇淋,他的途径连相邻途径都没有,但这也意味着,尽管他只需要他的源质就可以成为序列之上,但他可能也是最弱的序列之上。


Loach_that_Leaps

I wonder if Lord of the Mysteries can actually do this too with Historical Projections of the Sequence 1 Characteristics or the Uniquenesses themselves at that level.

不知道如果到了诡秘之主这个级别,是不是也能通过对序列1特性或者唯一性使用历史投影的方式来实现同样的效果了。


【这,就是“空想之龙”安格尔威德和祂孩子“噩梦之龙”阿勒苏霍德的关系?我曾经以为“占卜家”和“偷盗者”途径最为诡异,现在看来,都比不过“观众”……哎,小心观众……克莱恩彻底解开了心中的一大疑惑,也明白了为什么“空想之龙”安格尔威德要安排“0—08”这支羽毛笔与《格罗塞尔游记》相遇。】

idoking12

what you don't understand is naturally scarier

你不能理解的东西天然地就更恐怖


【一旦它们相遇,“0—08”这支源于“噩梦之龙”阿勒苏霍德的羽毛笔就会“苏醒”,成为降低了位格的“空想之龙”安格尔威德,然后,这位复活的古神将利用青铜之门后封印的自身负面人格,间接调动“混沌海”的力量,瞬间达到真神之下最强天使之王的层次。】

MMarci

So he did imagine his son! :D

所以他的儿子的确是空想出来的!:D


【“不过,‘空想之龙’本身受到了侵蚀,且有其他途径的特性,状态不是太好,只能分离一位‘作家’出来,否则会直接失控。”】

SmolSardine

We know he had 3 eyes of different colours. Other than the golden draconic eye, he had a red eye and a third eye that seemed veiled by a shadow. (?) We know Herabergen was one of his subsidiary gods, so ASG most likely retrieved the Tower pathway as well from Anklewelt. The potion formulas didn't exist before ASG's ascension, and it was said that the ancient races used to consume the characteristics that shared a common element. So, the other pathways he possessed? Either "Steam" or Hermit, or even both? But there were no info so far about the appearance of these two pathways before the 4th Epoch. 🤔

我们都知道他有三只不同颜色的眼睛。除了金色的龙眼之外,他还有一只红色的眼睛,第三只眼睛似乎是被阴影遮住的。(?)我们也知道赫拉伯根以前是他的从神之一,所以远太很有可能也从安格尔威德那里收走了高塔途径。魔药配方在远太晋升之前都不存在,而且之前也说到,古代种族以前都是直接吃有共通点的途径的非凡特性的。所以,他拥有的其他途径又是啥呢?要么是“蒸汽”,要么是隐者,又或者是两者都有?但目前为止,还没有任何关于这两种途径在第四纪之前出现的相关信息。


(回复楼上)SmolSardine

"So, what other pathways could he have possessed?"* I was too lazy to delete the comment and write all that stuff again lol

“所以,他可能拥有的其他途径都是什么呢?”我实在懒得把刚才这条评论删了再把这些东西重写一遍了2333


【“阿蒙如果能成为‘错误’,同样可以制造至少两个序列1分身。”】

CaCao

Amon does not deny himself, it is a real ERROR!

阿蒙可从来没有否定他自己,他就是货真价实的错误本误!


【“不是。”亚当目视前方,神情温和地回答道,“在我陨落,‘真实’诞生时。”】

wokaodeshi

Amon lost one dad! Amon got two new dads!

阿蒙死了一个爹!阿蒙有了两个新爹!


WayneZ

The Visionary never existed. Amon is the only child after all.

空想从未存在过。结果阿蒙是唯一的独子啊。


【如果众神知道远古太阳神早就在亚当身上“复活”,第四纪的历史恐怕就是围剿所罗门帝国、黄昏隐士会加阿蒙家族。】

Nila_Ameliena

I've always been perplexed, "This Amon guy has family?! And all of them are blasphemer?" And now I realised that all his family members must be just a bunch of himself...

我之前一直都很疑惑,“阿蒙这种人竟然还有家族的吗?!而且所有人都是渎神者?!”然后现在我才意识到,他所有的家族成员就是一大群他自己……


【想到这里,他又低头看了下插在自己胸口的染血十字木桩,觉得自己更值得同情。】

Ryien

Got stabbed by his own marionette... In short, got betrayed by himself. XD

被自己的秘偶背刺了……总之,就是被自己背叛了XD


LowlifeLurker

😂


【“你以为祂为什么能在成为恶灵后存活那么多年而没被发现?”】

MMarci

Is this implying He is to be replaced by Amon for the god ritual? Actually Amon was really buddy buddy with him so that wasn't ever a good sign for Him xD

这是在暗示他要在成神仪式上被阿蒙顶替了吗?其实阿蒙和他看起来真的还挺像好兄弟的,所以这对他来说绝对不是个好兆头啊XD


(回复楼上)Bard_Fall

???? Spoiler Hes arranged to become a sequence Zero Amon is obviously arranged to become Lord of Mysteries...

???剧透一下,他被安排成为序列0了,阿蒙绝对被安排要成为诡秘之主了……


【“执掌好运的黄黑之王……”】

Solterage

Genie: What's your wish? Klein: Kill me.

灯神:你的愿望是什么?克莱恩:杀了我。


Solterage

Also, as Visionary, Adam/ASG should have forseen this, right? This is no different than letting Klein go willingly.

而且,作为空想家,亚当/远太应该已经看到了这一招,对吧?这和自愿放走克莱恩几乎没区别。


(回复楼上)Frosty_Wings

Wishing Lamp is a level higher than a deity.. At least he used to be. Adam might not even forseen this..

许愿神灯的位阶比真神还要高……至少他以前是如此。亚当可能没办法预见到这个……


(回复楼上)Solterage

Imo, I think it currently sealed self can't really block Adam vision.

我说真的,我觉得目前被封印的他没办法真正抵挡住亚当的视线。


(回复楼上)SendNuds

Visionary here has the conotations of dreamer, not someone that sees everything, so no Adam/ASG doesn't know about this as long as Klein doesn't tell him (willingly or not)

这里的空想家指的是梦想家,不是能看见所有东西的人,所以答案是不会,只要克莱恩没有告诉亚当/远太(不管是自愿告诉还是非自愿告诉的),他就不会知道这些事情。

【这里存在一个歧义,就是visionary这个词原本是由vision(视觉)衍生出来的,从字面上来看的确很有“看见一切”相关的属性,但作为空想家,他们的能力更多与想象有关,而非真实视野】


(回复一楼)bookoflogos

Maybe that's also one of Adam's plans

也许这也是亚当计划的一环


Braccer1

TRAP!!!

陷阱!!!


MMarci

To be honest I knew Klein had a backup plan because before descending he threw some stuff into a prayerlight as a precaution and it was never mentioned since xD Lots of big stuff happened right after in a chain, but as long as you give time to prepare, the performance of the Fool doesn't tend to dissapoint :D

说实话,我知道克莱恩肯定有后手,因为在他降临之前,他把一些东西扔进了祈祷光点以防万一,而且之后就再也没提过那到底是啥了XD突然就发生了这么多大事,还有一连串的连锁反应,但只要给了准备的时间,愚者的表演就永远不会令人失望:D


【1346章(倒吊人-80章)“空想家”的特殊】

CKtalon【英文译者本人】

Adam/ASG/TC = Holy Trinity. Why hasn't anyone noticed that?

亚当/远太/真造=三位一体。为什么就没人意识到这个?


(回复楼上)ThisDaddy

Because author didn't want to.....duh

因为作者不希望我们意识到……噗


Tetractys

Okay, so it seems that the Adam we've come to know has always been ASG. He already managed to resurrect in some capacity beyond the contingencies of his other path through the True Creator. As for Red Angel being a sacrifice, has the Medici trio already perished off-screen for the Red Priest Uniqueness? That part, I'm a little confused.

好吧,所以目前看来我们知道的亚当其实一直都是远太。他已经成功以某种方式复活了,还绕过了他在另一条途径通过真实造物主部署的后手。至于红天使其实是个被牺牲的祭品,梅迪奇三人组不是已经因为红祭司唯一性在屏幕外的地方死过一次了吗?这部分我还有点困惑。


(回复楼上)Bone_God

Unless ASG was trading the uniqueness to the Demoness then I don't think so. He's probably referring to how he was sacrificed by the Blood Emperor although I could be wrong and he got shafted a second time 🤣

除非远太是和魔女交易了唯一性,不然我觉得事情不是你说的这样。他可能指的是他被血皇帝当了牺牲品,不过我也可能猜错了,也许之后他又被骗了第二次2333


(回复一楼)Aaaalison

Medici perished due to Adam’s scheme. He was always loyal to ASG (true creator later) so Klein felt pity for him

梅迪奇的陨落是因为亚当的阴谋。他一直都对远太很忠诚(还有后来的真实造物主),所以克莱恩对他感到怜悯


(回复一楼)Dex2

Do you remember waaaay back when Klein and Sharron spoke to that evil spirit Medici though Klein didn't know it was Medici? Klein said he had not heard of the Medici family and that evil spirit said, "they are a bunch of corrupted angels..." Perhaps this is why Medici had to be killed; something, either an outer deity or the sefirot had corrupted him. The other seq 1 angels at the time were likely just a bonus, killed "by the way"

你还记得很久很久以前,克莱恩和莎伦在克莱恩还不知道那是梅迪奇的时候,和红天使恶灵的那次对话吗?克莱恩说,他没听过梅迪奇家族,然后恶灵说,“那是一群被污染的天使……”也许这就是梅迪奇必须要死的原因:有一些不知道是外神还是源质的东西,污染了他。同一个时代的另一个序列1天使很可能只是个添头,“顺手”就一块杀了


Ozwin

Rofl don’t tell me, Klein left his worms up in the fog to regularly send the old fashioned “if you are receiving this message that means I was unable to prevent it from being sent due to being either dead or captured” but probably reversed so if Bernadette loses some feeling of being blessed or gazed upon, she is to wish for the death of Sparrow or something similar after trying to pray to the Fool and not receiving a response? Hmm maybe not that direct as it could lead her into thinking they are one and the same... but this is very likely a safety trigger set up by our ever prepared Klein.

我笑死,别告诉我,克莱恩在迷雾中留下自己的虫子,只是为了定期给他发一条过时得不能更过时的“如果你收到了这条消息,那就意味着我要么死了,要么被抓了”……但也许是反过来的,这样如果贝尔纳黛发现被眷顾着或者被注视的感觉消失了,她就会先向愚者祈祷,如果没有收到回复,就试着许愿让斯帕罗死,或者其他类似的行动……?唔,也许没有这么直接,因为这可能会导致她觉得他们其实就是同一个人……但这很可能就是我们永远有准备的克莱恩同学设置好的安全开关。


Demoneastz

Hahaha the man Himself had confirmed His identity! GG ASG! of all 7 deities, only Evernight had the suspicions? guess they are more brawny than I thought And, guess Magic Wishing Lamp is the back up plan, kek. I hope it won't make things worse for Klein

哈哈哈这个人已经自证了他的身份!打得不错啊远太!在所有七神之中,竟然只有黑夜有所怀疑?看来他们脑袋里的肌肉应该比我之前猜的还要多一些。而且,我猜许愿神灯应该就是后手了,科科,希望这不会让克莱恩的情况变得更糟糕


(回复楼上)Dex2

But the high level trickery going on is no joke. Even Lilith who had the fate of Omebella managed to trick those like Ouroboros so they thought it was truly Omebella. The lie even lasted 1000+ years 😂🙌

但高层次的互诈技巧可不是开玩笑的,即使拥有欧弥贝拉命运的莉莉丝也成功骗过了像乌洛琉斯这样的存在,所以他们觉得那真的是欧弥贝拉。这个谎言甚至持续了超过1000年23333


Demoneastz

Btw, the way Adam/ASG calling the Hanged Man is cute, "True" 😂

顺便一提,亚当/远太称呼倒吊人的方式真可爱,“真实”


Sollkiri

Now the final battle between the Clown and Joker remains.

现在小丑和小丑之间的最终决战还是注定要发生。


PyCode

I guess the outer deity in the wishing lamp really hates the Lord of the Mysteries.

我猜许愿神灯里的外神应该真的很讨厌诡秘之主。


AKirchner

Ha ha, so when Klein thought "Sasrir, you became Eve" (when he heard from Snowman that Sasrir was created of one of ASC's ribs) it was kind of a foreshadowing. ^^ Since Eve was created from Adam's rib according to Genesis.

哈哈,所以之前克莱恩吐槽道“萨斯利尔,你成为了夏娃”的时候(他从斯诺曼那里听到萨斯利尔是通过远太的肋骨创造的时候),这在某种意义上也暗示了未来。^^毕竟夏娃在《创世纪》里也是由亚当的肋骨创造的。


Surely_Panda

I wonder what ASG was like as a normal person before the whole change. He came from that facility so he may be a scientist and also deeply religious. What he is now though scare the heck out of me. The absolute lack of malice and anger in the way he commit atrocities such as encouraging a war is so unnerving. It feels like if one of his victim chewed him out in person, he would just smile, patch the poor guy kindly then break his neck without his smile slipping a inch.

不知道在世界剧变之前,远太作为普通人是一个什么身份。他是从那座设施里走出来的,所以他可能是个科学家,而且也有很深的宗教信仰。但他现在的样子真的让我觉得很恐怖。他一边施行诸如鼓动战争之类的暴行,一边却又毫无恶意与愤怒之情,这个样子实在令人觉得毛骨悚然。这感觉就像是,要是有个他导致的灾难的受害者之一当面怒骂他,他只会微笑着,温和地拍拍这个可怜的家伙,然后带着他纹丝不动的微笑扭断他的脖子。


Byakuei86

again i will say Visionary is too OP!! please nerf!! it look like this pathway is unbeatable even at same level deity vs deity if it 1 vs 1... i really want to see how Klein escape this crisis... for now i can only see 2 choice its either Evernight personally help him to die or that genie in the lamp that he meet before(since it is mention in this chapter.. i doubt cuttlefish will mention it without purpose)

我还是得说,空想家太挂壁了!!拜托削一下吧!!看起来这条途径就算是在同等级真神1对1的情况下也根本打不了啊……我真的很想看看克莱恩要怎么逃脱这场危机……现在我只能看到2个选择,要么黑夜亲自出手帮他死掉,要么神灯里的灯神(既然这一章里也提到了……我觉得乌贼是不可能随便就提这件事的)


(回复楼上)Dex2

It isn't unbeatable or else Ankewelt would have been the strongest among the ancient gods. Each has its advantages and mainly depends on a good user.

肯定不会打不了,不然安格尔威德早就是古神里最强的那个了。每条途径都有自己的长处,这基本取决于使用者用的好不好。


【1347章(倒吊人-81章)支柱】——本章说

【永恒之暗、万物奇点、时空归一者:】

Observer98

So both this and LoM control space and time? How does that work?

所以这个和诡秘之主都能控制时空?这是什么原理?


(回复楼上)Dex2

It's different. LoTM is "King of time of space". This one the emphasis seems to be on the "singularity" bit where everything "starts" or "ends". Also, we've seen before that even when abilities overlap, the way they are achieved or the one with greater authority is different. For example, Seq 2 Klein can affect fate by changing the probability of something and Seq 2 'Error' can also tinker with someone's fate and even steal it...

这两个不一样。诡秘之主是“时空之王”。这个存在的重点似乎更多落在“奇点”上,奇点是一切的“开始”与“结束”。而且,我们之前也看到过,即使某些能力有重合,他们实现能力的方式或者拥有更多权柄的存在也是不一样的。比如,序列2克莱恩可以通过改变某件事情的概率来影响命运,而序列2“错误”同样也可以修改某人的命运,甚至窃取……


(回复楼上)Daoist3NDFA8

do you know balck hole,it’s kind of “space-time in one” that means end of the space-time.

你知道黑洞吗,它在某种意义上就是“时空归一”,也就意味着时空的终结。


MMarci

Wait if Klein becomes 'the King of Spacetime' and Evernight becomes 'Space-Time-in One' does that mean....well this can be interpreted in interesting ways :D

等等,如果克莱恩成为了“时空之王”,而黑夜成为了“时空归一者”,这是不是意味着……嗯,这个可以用一些很有意思的方向来解读:D


(回复楼上)Bard_Fall

different singularity is kinda obvious lol is more blackhole related than space time so more about gravity or death or cycle

奇点显然很不同吧23333这更像是黑洞,而不是时空相关的概念,所以应该是和重力,或者死亡,或者循环更相关


(回复楼上)MMarci

I was thinking more along the lines that one title seems to suggest a ruling relationship over spacetime, while the other title implies being spacetime itself :D If Klein is the king of spacetime and Evernight is Space-time itself that sounds kinda fun :P

我更多是沿着这条逻辑线来推测的,其中一个头衔暗示的是对时空的掌控关系,而另一个头衔暗示的是成为时空本身:D如果克莱恩是时空之王,而黑夜就是时空本身,那听起来就挺有意思了:P


【“永暗之河”加“黑暗”唯一性、“死神”(永眠者)唯一性、“黄昏巨人”唯一性加1份“厄难骑士”非凡特性、1份“苍白皇帝”非凡特性、1份“神明之手”非凡特性】

Tukang_Sampah

sequence 1 of Evernight is Knight of Misfortune?

黑夜序列1是厄难骑士?


(回复楼上)Dex2

Yes and the seq 0 should be "Darkness" (we see 'Darkness' uniqueness...🤓ℹ)

是的,而序列0应该是“黑暗”(上面也写了“黑暗”唯一性……)


idoking12

for a moment I thought it said you needed 3 more pathways for this...

有那么一瞬间,我还以为这个意思是说需要额外的3条途径才能凑齐……


【“母巢”加“母亲”唯一性、“月亮”唯一性加1份“自然行者”非凡特性、1份“美神”非凡特性。】

Tukang_Sampah

basically, Evernight and Lilith only need their respective sefirot to become a Great Old Ones

基本上,黑夜和莉莉丝只需要她们自己的源质就可以成为旧日了


(回复楼上)Dex2

Though Lilith is in a bit of trouble since she also has to resist the corruption from the outer deity of whom the sefirot used to belong since that outer deity still has influence over it and the pathway. At least Evernight doesn't have an outer deity influencing her pathway 😅

虽然但是,莉莉丝现在遇到了一些麻烦,因为她还必须得抵抗来自外神的污染,而那个源质原本也是属于外神的,所以对源质本身和途径都还有一些影响。至少黑夜没有一个影响她途径的外神233


(回复楼上)idoking12

...at least an alive one

……至少没有一个还活着的影响她的外神


Tyrannical_Book

I i i i i i i sus everknight

我我我我我怀疑黑夜


【失序者、秩序阴影:】

Observer98

The combination of order and disorder leads to...anarchy? Seems to lean a bit too much to the Black Emperor side. Even the phrase "shadow of order" was once used to reference the pathway.

结果秩序与失序的结合竟然是……失序者?看起来似乎也太倾向于黑皇帝那一侧了吧。甚至连“秩序阴影“这个词都曾经是专指黑皇帝途径的啊。


(回复楼上)Skyfiend13

Yeah it came from Son of Chaos

是啊,毕竟是来自混乱之子的途径


【“灾祸之城”加“魔女”(混沌魔女、原初魔女)唯一性、“红祭司”唯一性加1份“末日”非凡特性、1份“征服者”非凡特性。】

elm_in_eden

So Demoness is always a woman and Red Priest is always a man... Is the Calamity of Destruction male or female!?

所以魔女肯定是女的,红祭司肯定是男的……那灾祸之城到底是男的还是女的?!


(回复楼上)usernamenotfound

Good sir, may I introduce you to the wonderful world of futanari...

这位先生,请允许我为您介绍我们美妙的扶她世界……


(回复楼上)Dr_SaltedFish

So the end game of this pathway is futanari eh... That's really ********.

所以这条途径的最后是扶她啊……那可真是xxxx


(回复一楼)IncarnationOfFate

It was answered by the author in a QA session that it will be a hermaphrodite

之前作者在问答环节回答过,这个存在会是雌雄同体


Dex2

I see. Seq 0 of demoness is "Chaos Demoness" or "Primordial Demoness"

我明白了。魔女序列0是“混沌魔女“或者”原初魔女“


bukvyrm

whatever they want to be.

随便他们想变成啥吧(反正都能变)


【“知识荒野”加“隐者”唯一性、“完美者”唯一性加1份“知识皇帝”非凡特性、1份“启蒙者”非凡特性。】

Braccer1

hermit??

隐者??


(回复楼上)Dex2

Seq 0 of Mystery Pryer = Hermit. Seq 1 of Mystery Pryer = Knowledge Emperor Seq 0 of Savant = Paragon. Seq 1 of Savant = Illuminator [Nodding head]

窥秘人序列0=隐者。窥秘人序列1=知识皇帝

通识者序列0=完美者。通识者序列0=启蒙者(点头)


Tyrannical_Book

not turtle hermit kinda disappointed

不是龟仙人我还有点失望

【龟仙人=英文译作turtle hermit,海龟隐士】


【光之钥、无尽的混乱、命运化身:】

Anna_94

holy sht Baby will become the Fate itself,

我去,小蛇宝宝要成为命运本身了


(回复楼上)Braccer1

he knows the fate of ice cream well

毕竟他对冰淇淋的命运了如指掌


【“光之钥”加“命运之轮”唯一性加1份“巨蛇”非特性。】

TomoyaNagase

So the fate pathway only needs the key of light sephirot to reach great old one status.

所以命运途径只需要光之钥源质就能达到旧日状态了。


(回复楼上)orenji0kun

so if baby will just accomodates the uniqueness and gets his hands on the sephirot, he doesn't even need to defeat the other angel of fate and can just jump straight to the status of great old one!

所以如果小蛇已经融合了唯一性,然后把源质拿到手,他甚至都不需要击败其他命运天使,就能直接跳到旧日状态了!


(回复楼上)Dr_SaltedFish

He probably has to brush up goodwill with like universal fate or something so the sefriot can appear at a particular spot, at a particular time that just happens to be in front of him lol

他也许必须要用类似万能的命运或者其他之类的东西来刷一刷好运值,这样源质才会在某个合适的时间点出现,最好是某个正好能直接出现在他面前的时间点23333


(回复楼上)Daoist3NDFA8

Yeah,this is the Fate Pathway,anything can be happen in any situation.....

是啊,这毕竟是命运途径,任何情况下任何事都可能会发生……


(回复二楼)Bard_Fall

Yeah at the same time is very fate dependent

是的,同时这条途径又是非常看命的


DJ_Yasaqua

We got all the Above The Sequences! Woohoo! \(^-^)/

我们已经看到所有序列之上的名字啦!芜湖!


【如果他和罗塞尔大帝能早点了解这方面的神秘学知识,各自都不会落到如今的处境。】

Shtriya

Yeah

是啊


Daoist3NDFA8

If you known earlier,then Great Old One and Outer God in cosmos will also notice you. you will be polluted and pregnant.

如果你早点知道的话,旧日和星空里的外神也会注意到你的。你会被污染然后怀孕的。


【听到亚当最后那句话,克莱恩忍不住低头看了眼自己的左袖,“魔镜”阿罗德斯就藏在里面。】

Tetractys

Arrodes! What are you doing there? Sneaky fellow.

阿罗德斯!你在这做啥呢?鬼鬼祟祟的。


ThisDaddy

Arrodes, Dear Arrodes

阿罗德斯,亲爱的阿罗德斯


SilverCompass

but what will happen to arrodes if klein is to die here and revive in the grey fog? what about arrodes :(

但如果克莱恩死在这里,然后在灰雾中复活的话,阿罗德斯会怎么样呢?阿罗德斯该怎么办☹


【要不是胸口插着一根染血的十字木桩,克莱恩肯定觉得当前的交流氛围不错,好几次恍惚间,他都认为自己和亚当是朋友,正在愉快地讨论一些神秘学知识,等待对方的孩子阿蒙回家用餐。】

Chikage

Lol! It's been a while since he lampooned

哈哈哈哈哈!他已经吐槽了有好一会了


【当然,我是那个“餐”……不得不说,“观众”影响他人认知、体验和状态的能力实在是太强了……克莱恩一边告诉自己要警惕,一边疑惑说道:】

bookoflogos

I'm dinner 🤣

我是那个“餐“哈哈哈哈哈哈


(回复楼上)Bunnybell

foodie become food! XD

当吃货成为被吃的货!XD


draculemorningstar

heh kìnky

哎呦真骚2333

【弔图】


【“简单来说就是,如果黑夜能成为‘永恒之暗’、‘万物奇点’、‘时空归一者’,那祂可以更进一步地占据‘魔女’和‘红祭司’两条途径,包容‘灾祸之城’,成为真正的第四支柱,但到了那个时候,祂要么进入沉眠,要么被动分裂,要么导致包括祂和我们在内的整个宇宙消亡,重新开始。”】

Tukang_Sampah

So, Evernight can becomes a legendary hidden boss

所以,黑夜是可以成为史诗级隐藏boss的


(回复楼上)BarbatosTheYonko

More like the most powerful suicide bomber.

更像是史上最强的自杀式炸弹袭击者吧


(回复一楼)HeinousFox

I an looking forward for this plot, somehow I don't like her, but maybe she won't be a villain in this novel after all... Well, since she may go after the hunter pathway too, if she survives until the end of this novel, maybe in the sequel the new protagonist can have her as final boss, that can be good!

我还挺期待这个情节的,不知为何我不太喜欢她,但也许她在这本小说里根本不会成为反派……嗯,既然她也有可能会走猎人途径,如果她成功活到了本书结尾,也许下一部的新主角会把她当作最终boss呢,这就不错!


(回复楼上)Hastev

why would a person want to become a bomb or a vegetable who will sleep and explode into smithereens when awaken

为什么会有人想要变成一颗大炸弹呢,或者一个只能睡觉,醒来就必须要爆炸成碎片的植物人


Anna_94

the fck klein your mom is scary, and that last sentence holy sht so there is possibility that Klein stuck in Limbo becauae evernight manage to ascend, it reset the entire universe again and again

我x,克莱恩你麻麻可太吓人了,还有最后这一句,我去,也就是说有可能克莱恩会因为黑夜成功晋升被困在地狱边境,她会不断的重复重启这个宇宙


Resirix

This seems more like a card to threaten the Outer Deities with rather than Evernight being the final boss. Like, "Stay away from our planet or we destroy everything"

这看起来更像是一张威胁外神的王牌,而不是真的让黑夜成为最终boss。“离我们的星球远点,否则我们就摧毁所有一切“


Petyo1010

This seems like a giant foreshadowing for the end of the series.

这看起来像是对整个诡秘系列结局的重大暗示啊


XanTheInsane

So basically Azathoth, who dreams all of reality and if he wakes up... Reality itself just ends.

所以基本上就是阿撒托斯,他梦出了整个现实世界,一旦他醒来……现实本身就终结了。


Shtriya

somehow im more happy about this situation of her😅😂🤣

不知为何我还对她这个遭遇挺开心的呢


【还有这样的事情……到了序列之上这个层次,象征意义可能比权柄更重要……亚当,不,远古太阳神的神秘学知识简直丰厚到恐怖,不愧是曾经的准旧日……克莱恩听得一阵感叹。】

Anna_94

damm so lord of the mysteries actually time travel. it symbolizes time and space right?, so do you guys remember in the earlier chapter when Klein meet a girl pretending to be Seer but she actually beast tamer from circus and then klein pick the Fool card. I wonder who she is. Maybe its LOTM travels back in time to help klein 🤔

我去,所以诡秘之主其实就是能进行时间旅行咯。它象征的是时间和空间对吧?所以你们还记得不,之前的章节里,克莱恩遇到过一个假扮占卜家的女孩,但她其实是马戏团的驯兽师,然后克莱恩抽出了愚者牌。我在想她到底是谁。也许就是穿越时间的诡秘之主,为了推克莱恩一把……


(回复楼上)HeinousFox

I think you are thinking to low, he can be actually the first epoch Lord of the Mysteries you know, he can even be the one who sealed that other continent since it was where his home was supposed to be.

我觉得你想得太简单了,你知道,他可能就是第一纪的那个诡秘之主啊,他甚至可能是那个封印了另一片大陆的存在,因为那里应该就是他的家乡所在的地方


(回复楼上)Tyrannical_Book

maybe 'He' is 'She'🤔🤔

也许是“她“呢……


Shtriya

Emperor roselle is truly knowledgeable

罗塞尔大帝知道的真的很多


【他想了想道: “也就是说,‘不眠者’途径的半神可以转去‘魔女’途径?”】

vincentatd

Bookmarked!

在这里加个书签!


【“没错。”亚当目视前方道,“但这样一来,就没法成为旧日了,除非想办法分离之前的非凡特性。”】

Observer98

Demoness Leonard, coming soon to a theatre near you.

魔女伦纳德,即将登陆您家附近的影院!


(回复楼上)LuluoO

Future madam Leonora

未来的列奥诺拉女士


Dex2

This means at just demigod levels, one can switch between any of the following: Sleepless 🔁 Death 🔁 Warrior 🔁 Red Priest 🔁 Demoness too bad those at lower levels will not know of this information.

这意味着在半神等级的时候,一个人可以在以下任意选项中互换:

不眠者🔁死亡🔁战士🔁红祭司🔁魔女

可惜的是,那些低序列的人根本不会知道这条信息。


【“初步拥有‘全知全能’权柄后,我就在推演成为旧日的方法和途径,最终,找到了合适的配方,弄清楚了不同的象征。】

SilverCompass

hes so proud of himself, thats kinda cute tho

他对自己还真是挺自豪的,这还有点可爱


Daoist3NDFA8

Remember this!Math is useful in mystic world!

记住!数学在神秘学世界也是有用的!


【亚当又一次侧过脑袋,眼眸清澈地说道:“他太累了,想要休息,想要自由,哪怕只有几秒。”】

ldc2018

klein is so tired.

克莱恩实在是太累了。


LS10

Freedom, sure. Rest? He spent those seconds doing what he always does... hunting. Unless we're talking about the dying part... he's done that before also tho?

自由,当然了。但休息?他在那几秒的时间里做的也是他一直以来做的事情……那就是狩猎。除非我们说的是他想要死亡……但他之前已经做到了不是吗?


Tyrannical_Book

mountain Klein is very tired and want to retire

克莱恩扛了太多事情了,累了,想退休


pepepepeii

;_; oh klein

;_;哦克莱恩……


SilverCompass

klein needs healing :( hes been through a lot

克莱恩需要治疗☹他真是经历了太多了


【说到这里,克莱恩顿了一下,望向前方,嗓音低沉地问道:“你只剩下了神性?”】

HeinousFox

Is he asking if he still have his "humanity" side? (Let's pretend it's a good side.) Or just a power related question?

他这是在问远太还有没有他的“人性“面吗?(就让我们先假装他的人性面是善良面吧。)或者这个问题其实是和力量相关?


【现在,他收到了回报,那位贫民不仅没有死亡,而且还实现了一些愿望!】

MellowtotheMax

Brainless Abraham indeed...

真是个没脑子的亚伯拉罕……


【1347章(倒吊人-81章)支柱】

Foxvolant

...If I'm not mistaken isn't this Klein's chance to create a miracle? I feel like that's the only way out of this situation.

……如果我没记错的话,这其实是克莱恩创造奇迹的机会吧?我感觉在这种情况下这应该是唯一的解法了


(回复楼上)Hegarde

Maybe Adam and Amon had already prepared countermeasures that would make his miracle useless

也许亚当和阿蒙已经准备好了反制措施,能让他的奇迹无效化的那种


Sollkiri

Now that everyone, is the right way to solve a puzzle. One more step for Klein's ultimate goal.

现在,所有人,都是解开这个谜题的正确方式。又向着克莱恩的终极目标迈出了一步了。


Tetractys

A very nice exposition chapter. Klein probably has some ideas churning in his mind, but I'm not entirely sure how successful they'll be with a Visionary right next to him. It also seems Amanaises has some ways to go. Good luck to her! Also, Verdu is a simp.

非常优秀的一章揭秘章节。克莱恩也许脑海中有一些想法正在翻腾,但我不是很确定如果有一个空想家坐在他旁边,他们能有多大的成功几率。而且看起来阿曼妮西斯面前也有几条路等着她的选择。祝她好运!还有,维尔杜真是个痴汉。


(回复楼上)Chef_C

Klein is playing 20 questions, all these seemingly unhelpful to the situation questions will somehow help him figure out a way out of here.

克莱恩这是在玩海龟汤呢。这些看起来对现状都没什么帮助的问题,最终都会获得火烧帮助他理清逃离这里的方法的。

【20 questions=字面直译是20个问题,这是一种在19世纪的美国风靡一时的口头游戏,“回答者”选择其他玩家(“提问者”)必须猜到的东西。他们轮流问一个问题,回答者必须回答“是”或“否”。这种形式其实和现在的海龟汤很相似,就暂且如此翻译了】


(回复一楼)Gianoria

From what we just learn, if Amanises decides to be more than the Eternal Darkness, then she will be either asleep, dead or deadest (with everything else) So, no. Don't wish her good luck. And don't wish her misfortune either, she controls that.

从我们目前刚刚了解的情况来看,如果阿曼妮西斯决定要超越永恒之暗,那她要么得沉睡,要么得死亡,要么就是跟死了一样(还有其他的一切)。所以,不会的。不要祝她好运。也不要祝她倒霉,因为这是她掌控的领域。


(回复楼上)Dervyn

Amanises as the final, hidden big bad would be interesting if handled correctly.

如果操作得当,阿曼妮西斯作为最终隐藏大坏蛋应该会变得很有意思。


(回复一楼)Reptile_Not_Alien

Who's he simping for?

痴汉?他痴汉的目标是谁?


(回复楼上)Observer98

Mr Door probably. Despite a deity level existence telling him this is a bad idea he decides to mistrust that and seek the help of another deity level existence as long as they give him what he wants. This dude is definitely not going to have a good ending.

也许是门先生吧。尽管一个真神级别的存在告诉他这是个坏主意,他还是不相信,而且还想寻求另一个真神级别存在的帮助,就是为了让这个神给他提供他想要的帮助。这哥们绝对不会有好下场。


Tyrannical_Book

mama Klein daddy Adam and daughter amon what a sweet family

克莱恩妈妈,亚当爸爸和女儿阿蒙,多么温馨美好的一家人啊


Byakuei86

thx for chapter now we all know all the above sequence... so even great old one have grade?? as expected of MC "luck" he on the right path to become 1 of the strongest great old one

感谢更新,现在我们已经知道所有序列之上的名字了……所以甚至连旧日都有等级之分??不愧是有“主角运”,他起码走的是一条正确的途径,能成为最强大的旧日之一


Lordfoxwillow

Just like Klien, ever the cowardly lion king, ask questions find clues pull himself out of the fire and create a miraculous scene that defies logic and makes you think he's not cowardly at all...he's a Fool!

就像克莱恩一样,史上最苟狮子王,一边问问题一边试图找到能让自己逃出泥潭的线索,然后会创造一个奇迹般地场景,用一个缜密的逻辑,让你觉得他其实一点都不怂……他是个愚者啊!


KriShna_Gurung

so this verdu mf doesn't trust the fool even tho he Clearly helped his family but he is willing to trust the god of war because he didn't killed a tramp and even fulfilled some of his wishes ? NANI?

所以这个混蛋维尔杜一点都不愿意相信愚者,即使愚者显然是在帮助他的家族,但他还是宁愿相信战神,就因为他没有杀死一个流浪汉而且甚至实现了他的某些愿望?纳尼?


Zarivon

Seems like Klein's only hope right now is the Tarot Club again? 1 prayer waiting, once enough of them pray will it be enough of an anchor for the worms in the castle to regain control and make a move? After this info dump I'm wondering if Klein will skip sequence 0 straight to Great Old One. Just has to beat the Half-Fool, Mr. Door, and Amon... probably in that order.

看起来克莱恩目前唯一的希望就又是塔罗会了对吧?1个祈祷者正在等待中,一旦凑够了足够多的祈祷,应该就足够构建一个锚,让源堡里留守的虫子能重新获得掌控权,然后开展行动了?经历过这次的超大信息量之后,不知道克莱恩会不会直接跳过序列0达到旧日了。只需要打倒半个愚者,门先生,还有阿蒙……也许就是按照这个顺序来的。


(回复楼上)Frosty_Wings

Doubt it, there's a deity completely blocking off his connection to the castle. Seems the wishing lamp is Klein's last hope.

我很怀疑这一点,有个真神就能完全阻断他和源堡之间的联系。看起来许愿神灯是克莱恩最后的希望。


LazyOracle

The other chapter not getting released?

今天没有下一更了?


(回复楼上)HeinousFox

Sadly, I already come back to check more than 10 times in this last 6 hours, I am already starting to wish to get more busy in my work lol. But let's hope this is for the best, if I am not wrong the last chapter is the 1394 and we already at the 1375 in the privilege, maybe this is because a mass release to the end is comming! (And I am already feeling sad, lonely and empty now, I am feeling like an orphan without LOTM to read...)

悲伤的事,我在过去的6个小时里已经来回检查了超过10次了,我已经开始希望我的工作能再多点了(好让我不要再想),哈哈哈哈。但我们应该先祈祷这就是最好的结果吧,因为如果我没记错的话,最后一章是1394章,而会员章节已经到了1375,也许今天不加更就是因为结局爆更马上要来了!(我已经开始空虚寂寞冷了,没有诡秘读的日子我感觉我就像个孤儿……)

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