In one of his first interviews since going on hiatus last year, the megastar steadily steps back into the limelight for David Yurman’s new jewelry campaign.

2022年停工后，肖恩·蒙德兹首次接受采访。最近，这位巨星代言了David Yurman的珠宝广告，慢慢回到了人们的视线。

It’s been a tough couple of months for Shawn Mendes.

 

对肖恩·蒙德兹来说，这几个月过得并不容易。

 

Having kicked off his Wonder: The World Tour in May 2022, the Gen Z megastar performed the first seven concerts, then postponed it for several weeks, citing mental health concerns, before canceling the remaining 80 dates in July. In an Instagram post to his 71 million followers, Mendes promised fans that he would take some time away from the limelight to “ground” himself and “come back stronger.”

 

肖恩·蒙德兹是Z世代巨星。2022年5月，他启动了Wonder：世界巡回演唱会。第七场演出结束后，萌德表示需要调整心理状态，将巡演推迟了几周。7月，他决定取消接下来的80场演出。通过Instagram，他向7100万粉丝承诺，接下来他将远离人们的视线，再度回归时会变得更强大。

Since then, Mendes has been doing the work. He’s been in therapy. He did an Instagram Live last month with self-help guru Jay Shetty. He’s even using terms like “modalities” and “compassionate inquiry.” Gwyneth Paltrow would be proud.

 

从那以后，萌德就在努力兑现承诺。他一直在接受治疗。2023年1月，他与疗愈大师Jay Shetty在Instagram上进行了一次直播。他谈到了“疗法”和“同情心探索”。

In addition to doing the work, Mendes has also steadily been stepping back into the spotlight. He, along with Scarlett Johansson, is the new brand ambassador of David Yurman’s Nature’s Artistry campaign. And to celebrate the release, we caught up with Mendes for one of his first interviews since the events of last summer. We spoke on the phone about the inner journey he’s been on over the last six months, his taste in jewelry and when we might be able to expect some new music.

 

此外，萌德也在稳步回到聚光灯下。他和Scarlett Johansson携手担任了DavidYurman的“Nature's Artistry”品牌大使。为庆祝这一新代言，我们采访了萌德，这是他去年停工后的首次采访。电话中，我们谈到了他过去半年的心路历程，讨论了他的珠宝品味，也试图打听什么时候可以听到他的新音乐。

How are you? Last year was the big tour cancellation news, which everyone was so sad about. What kind of energy are you bringing into 2023?

 

I’m bringing in some honest energy. Last year was a tough year for me, and I spent a lot of time doing a lot of really good things for myself: taking some time to rest and heal, doing some great therapy and just kind of grounding myself again. I’ve been feeling really inspired lately, feeling like I’m ready to start making some music. Sometimes we just need to know when it’s time to take a breath and hibernate for a minute so we can come out feeling stronger. I feel really grateful with how accepting and loving everybody has been. I really think it’s a testament to the way that culture is starting to interact with mental health.

你还好吗？去年你取消了巡演，大家都很难过。2023年来了，你将会给新的一年带来什么样的能量？

我带来了真诚的能量。对我来说，去年是艰难的一年，我花了很多时间让自己变好。我好好休息，认真疗愈自我，接受有益的治疗，让自己重新稳定下来。最近我有很多灵感，感觉已经准备好开始做音乐了。有时候，我们只需要知道自己该喘口气，该休眠一会儿，过后我们就能感到自己变得更强大。我真的非常感激大家对我的接纳和关爱。这证明我们的文化开始认真对待心理健康这个议题。

It’s interesting to think how differently that announcement would have been received even just five or 10 years ago.

 

I think 10 years ago, artists wouldn’t do a thing like that because of the amount of pressure and fear they feel about how it would be received. Which is sad to think about but also amazing to see how far we’ve come. I feel very lucky.

 

要是在5年或10年前，人们听到这样的消息，反应一定会非常不同。

我认为，10年前不会有艺人敢这么做。因为一旦人们听到这样的消息，艺人将无法承受巨大的压力和恐惧，想到这一点，我很难受。但现在情况变了，我们的进步非常值得赞叹。我是幸运的！

You mentioned you’ve been focused on rest, on therapy and on taking care of yourself. Have you tried any out-there modalities?

 

Like ayahuasca?

你提到你非常专注于休息、治疗和照顾自己，你有没有尝试过什么不同寻常的治疗方法？

 

类似喝死藤水的疗法吗？【死藤水是一种药用植物。这种植物和其他几种植物混合起来煮制的汤药，具有祛病提神、强身健体的功效。】

You can answer the question however you want.

 

There are so many modalities of therapy, and I think the important thing for me has been [honoring] whatever my pace is and doing the things that feel natural and safe. It really depends, you know? Each person goes through something different. For me, it’s been a mixture of a few different things, but the best therapy I’ve done is called compassionate inquiry with an amazing therapist. It’s tough and not everybody can afford therapy, but there are great platforms that offer it at a discount. My dream would be for everyone to work with a great therapist once a week. That would be a dream. Do you go to therapy?

 

你怎么回答这个问题都可以。

 

目前有很多种治疗方法，但我最看重的是专注于自己的节奏，做让我自然和安适的事情。这真的因人而异，每个人应对的事情都不一样。对我来说，我在同时应对几件不同的事情。不过我做过最好的心理治疗是和一位很棒的治疗师做的，是一种同理谈话疗法。心理治疗很难，并不是所有人都能负担得起。但现在有好的平台在提供折扣。我的理想就是让所有人每周都能有一次和治疗师在一起的机会，那算是一个远大的梦想吧。那你呢？参加过心理治疗吗？

I don’t, but maybe I should. We’re all on our own path, right?

 

没有。但或许我应该试试。我们都有自己的路要走，对吧？

 

We’re all on our own path, exactly.

 

是这样的，我们都有自己的路要走。

 

You are the new face of David Yurman. What does it mean to you to be a brand ambassador?

 

It really feels great, to be honest. They have such timeless pieces that have always spoken to me, and I’m so honored to be a part of what they’re doing. I love jewelry and have been a fan of the brand for a long time, so it felt natural to do this with them, to bring these collections to life.

 

你是David Yurman的新代言人。成为品牌大使对你意味着什么？

 

说实话，感觉真的很好。他们有如此经典的作品，与自我进行对话，我很荣幸能成为这个品牌的一部分。我喜欢珠宝，并且一直是David Yurman的粉丝，所以，和他们合作，把新的珠宝作品呈现给大家，整个过程非常自然。

I want to ask you about style and your relationship to jewelry. What is your earliest memory of jewelry?

 

My dad used to wear this big silver necklace with an oval that almost looked like it had a mirror on it. I remember as a kid thinking it looked so cool on him. He had this jewelry box in the bedroom, and I used to go in there and put all his jewelry on. It was a thing I did. I remember as a kid really loving that. My mom took me to get my ear pierced when I was in second grade, which at the time was very crazy but very cool. I also used to wear this fake diamond in school. I loved that. But it wasn’t until I was like 17 that I put a ring on, my grandfather’s ring. I still wear it. That was the real intro to jewelry for me. Little by little I’ve started adding pieces, and now it’s become a part of my identity.

 

我想知道你对艺术风格的看法，以及你和珠宝的关系。你对珠宝最早的记忆是什么？

 

我爸爸戴过一条很大的银项链，上面有一个椭圆形的东西，就像一面镜子。我记得小时候觉得他戴这个项链很酷。他的卧室里有一个珠宝盒，我经常去那里把他的珠宝都戴上。我确实干过这件事，小时候真的很喜欢这样。二年级的时候，妈妈带我去打耳洞，这在当时看来很疯狂，但是很酷。我还在学校里戴过假的钻石，特喜欢。但事实上，我17岁时才真正开始戴戒指，那是我祖父的戒指。我现在还会戴着它。祖父的戒指带我走进了珠宝世界的大门。渐渐地，我开始增加佩戴珠宝的数量，现在珠宝已经成为我的一部分。

Tell me about your grandfather’s ring.

 

I never got to meet my grandfather. He passed away a year before I was born. My grandmother gave me their 25th anniversary ring. It’s something I’ve treasured for a long time.

我想知道你祖父留给你的戒指

我从未见过我爷爷，他在我出生前一年就去世了。我奶奶给了我他们的25周年纪念戒指。这是我珍藏已久的宝贝。

What does it look like?

 

Here’s the thing, I’m not telling the entire truth. I feel some shame because, when I was 19 or 20 in the middle of a tour, I lost [that ring]. Now I wear another one of his rings. But which one do you want to know about, the one I currently wear or the one I used to wear?

这个戒指是什么样的？

事情是这样的，我还没有告诉你故事的全部。讲起来实在羞愧，在我19或20岁的时候，有一次巡回演出来到一半的时候，我把那枚戒指给弄丢了。现在我又戴上了他的另一枚戒指，你想了解的是哪一枚，现在戴的还是以前的？

 

The one you lost.

 

The one I lost was a silver ring and it has three stars in the middle, in a row. There are photos of me when I was that age wearing it. It was my biggest loss of an object. I’ve never felt so heartbroken about losing a thing in my life. But it happens.

 

我想了解你曾经丢失的那枚戒指。

我丢的是一枚银戒指，中间有三颗星排成一列。我还保存着曾经和这枚戒指的照片。这枚戒指是我遗失过的最重要的物品。我从来没有因为失去一个东西而如此伤心过，但它确实不见了。

Maybe it will turn it up?

 

Maybe this interview will start a ruckus, and there will be a search party for it.

 

或许通过这次采访会让我们找到这枚戒指？

可能这次采访会让大家关注到这枚戒指，或许将来会有人组队搜寻它的踪影。

What is your approach to jewelry generally? How do you collect?

 

Less is more for me. I’m very, very loyal to jewelry. I’ll wear the same things for years. If I add a piece, I’ll really have to spend a few months with it before I put it into rotation. Talking David Yurman, I have this green emerald piece I’ve worn around my neck for two years now. Not a lot of jewelry speaks to me. It actually takes quite a lot.

你对珠宝的态度是怎样的？你如何收藏珠宝？

对我来说，少即是多。我对珠宝非常忠诚。一件珠宝我会戴好几年。如果我获得了一件新的珠宝，我会等好几个月才把它加入到穿戴选择中。说到David Yurman，我有一块绿宝石，已经在我脖子上戴了两年了。并不是很多珠宝都能跟我产生共鸣，这没那么容易。

Are you into birthstones?

 

To be honest with you, if my birth stone was a little bit nicer of a color, I think I would be. Nothing against this stone, but it’s called peridot and it’s a yellowy-green. I don’t love the color. My birth stone doesn’t speak to me the way an emerald does. If my birthstone was sapphire or emerald, I would be like, yes, that’s all I wear.

 

你对生辰石感兴趣吗？

老实说，如果我的生辰石的颜色再好看一点，我应该会喜欢。我的生辰石叫橄榄石，是黄绿色的，我并不排斥它，只是不喜欢它的颜色。我的生辰石并不像绿宝石那样和我共鸣，如果我的生辰石是蓝宝石或绿宝石，我就会只选它，没错，就只戴这个。

Do you have any guilty pleasures?

I go on YouTube binges most evenings. I’ve been into these camping videos, it’s like ASMR camping. I’ll watch those for like two hours

 

你有什么罪恶的乐趣吗？

我经常夜晚沉迷YouTube。我特别喜欢一些露营视频，是那种ASMR的露营视频，我能看上两个小时。

 

Why are those interesting to you?

 

They’re very calming. I had it on in my house the other day and my parents came in and said, “What are you watching, what is this silent camping video?” And my sister said, “Our generation is very anxious, we need to watch things that calm us down.”

你为什么对这些视频感兴趣？

这些视频让我非常平静。有一天我在家里看视频，我父母看到问：“你在看什么，这个没有声音的露营视频是什么？” 我妹妹说：“我们这一代人非常焦虑，我们需要看一些能让我们平静下来的东西。”

Where are you with making new music? Are you in the studio these days?

 

I’m slowly kind of easing into it. I have some apprehension because I’m nervous. I haven’t been in there for a while. I have a high standard and I just want to make sure I give myself some space. It takes a minute. You have to build up the confidence, you have to build up the inspiration and then you have to go in there every day. I’m at the point now where I’m about to start doing the things; all the building, all the foundation has been set, and now I’m almost ready to start going into the studio.

 

你在哪里写新歌呢？你这几天在录音棚里吗？

我正在慢慢地适应。我有些担心，因为我很紧张。我已经有一段时间没去过了。我对自己要求很高，我只是想确保留给自己一些空间。这会花点时间。你首先必须建立信心，建立灵感，然后你必须每天都保持那种状态。目前的话，我马上就要开始工作了。所有的前期基础都已经打好了，我已经要准备好去录音棚了。

What would you tell your teenage self when you were just starting out?

 

Really great question. I would say something along the lines of, “It’s not easy to do and it doesn’t feel good at the moment, but setting boundaries doesn’t make you a mean person. It actually makes you a really kind person.”

 

你对曾经刚开始事业的自己有什么想说的吗？

 

好棒的问题。我会这样说，“和他人划清界限不会让你显得很刻薄，尽管这做起来并不容易，一时半会可能感觉不太好，但它其实会让你成为一个很善良的人。”

 

Is boundary-setting something you’ve been practicing lately? How has that changed you?

 

No one likes to set boundaries. No one likes to make people feel like they’re crossing something. Ultimately, if there is a real relationship there and real care, even if it feels hard in the moment, I think boundaries are extremely important. I’m starting to learn how to do that. I’m starting to forgive myself. That has been really helpful for me, and helpful for the people in my life. I have more patience, love and more space for them because of that.

 

你最近一直在学会和他人划清界限吗？这是怎么改变你的？

没有人喜欢和他人设定界限。但也没人想让别人觉得他们没有边界感。如果在一段真诚的关系中，真正地关心彼此，即使划清界限一时半会儿很难，我想它最终都会显得至关重要。我正在学会去这样做，我开始原谅我自己。这对我，以及我生活中的其他人，都很有帮助。因为这一切，我变得更加耐心，收获了更多的爱和空间。

 

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