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诡秘外国网友评论节选意译 - 【800-802】

2021-11-04 15:44 作者:凌冰雪  | 我要投稿

【800章(不死者-68章)精神变“好”】

【又到了整百章,大佬的数据流总结又来了,照例因为一图放不下,部分英文原文无法留下来对照了】

 Alessan  

Chapter 8x100! As usual please avoid all spoilers from the the wiki, the raws, or any MTL.

第八个100章!一如既往,请不要透露来自百科、生肉或机翻站的任何剧透。

已知魔药:148/220

已知魔药配方:32/220 + 1 不完整配方


8-9 低序列名称: 42/44 (13个配方)

5-7 中序列名称: 64/66 (14个配方)

3-4 圣者序列名: 22/44 (2个配方 +1个不完整配方)

1-2 天使序列名: 9/44 (2个配方)

0 真神序列名: 7/22 (1个配方)

不确定序列: 5


[] = 古代名 Ancient Name

✓ = 配方已知 Known Formula

X = 不完整配方已知 Known Incomplete Formula

* = 中序列起始点 Mid Sequence Starting Point


黑皇帝途径 Black Emperor Pathway: (10/10)

9 律师 Lawyer ✓

8 野蛮人 Barbarian ✓

7 贿赂者 Briber ✓

6 腐化男爵 Baron of Corruption* ✓

5 混乱导师 Mentor of Confusion ✓

4 堕落公爵 Count of the Fallen ✓

3 狂乱法师 Frenzied Mage ✓

2 熵之公爵 Duke of Entropy ✓

1 弑序亲王 Prince of Disorder ✓

0 黑皇帝 Black Emperor ✓


未知途径 ??? Pathway: (8/10)

9 占卜家 Seer ✓

8 小丑 Clown ✓

7 魔术师 Magician* ✓

6 无面人 Faceless ✓

5 秘偶大师 Marionettist ✓

4 诡法师 Bizarro Sorcerer

3

2 奇迹师 Miracle Invoker

1 诡秘侍者 Attendant of Mysteries


【魔狼】黑夜途径 [Demonic Wolf] Evernight Pathway: (8/10)

9 不眠者Sleepless

8 午夜诗人 Midnight Poet

7 梦魇 Nightmare

6 安魂师 Soul Assurer*

5 灵巫 Spirit Warlock

4 守夜人 Nightwatcher

3

2

1-3 隐秘之仆 Servant of Concealment

0 黑夜 Evernight


【巨龙】空想途径 [Dragon] Visionary Pathway: (8/10)

9 观众Spectator ✓

8 读心者 Telepathist ✓

7 心理医生[精神分析师] Psychiatrist* [Psyche Analyst]

6 催眠师 Hypnotist

5

4 操纵师 Manipulator

3

2 洞察者 Discerner

1 作家 Author

0 空想家 Visionary


【恶魔】深渊途径 [Devil] Abyss Pathway: (7/10)

9 罪犯 Criminal

8 折翼天使[冷血者] Unwinged Angel [Coldblooded]

7 连环杀手 Serial Killer

6 恶魔 Devil*

5 欲望使徒 Desire Apostle

4 魔鬼 Demon

3

2

1

0 深渊 Abyss


未知途径 ??? Pathway: (7/10)

9 通识者 Savant

8 考古学家 Archaeologist

7 鉴定师appraiser

6 机械专家[工匠] Machinery Specialist [Artisan]*

5 天文学家 Astromancer

4 炼金术师 Alchemist

3 奥秘学者 Arcane Scholar


【凤凰】死亡途径 [Phoenix] Death Pathway: (7/10)

9 收尸人 Corpse Collector

8 掘墓人 Gravedigger

7 通灵者 Spirit Medium

6 死灵导师 Spirit Guide*

5 守门人 Gatekeeper

3-4 不死者 Undying

3-4

2

1

0 死亡 Death


未知途径 ??? Pathway: (7/10)

9 刺客 Assassin ✓

8 教唆者 Instigator ✓

7 魔女 Witch* ✓

6 欢愉 Pleasure ✓

5 痛苦 Affliction

4 绝望 Despair

2-3 不老 Unaging


【精灵】未知途径 [Elf] ??? Pathway: (7/10)

9 水手[海眷者] Sailor [Keeper of the Sea]

8 狂怒之民[风暴守卫] Folk of Rage [Guardian of the Storm]

7 航海家[风暴牧师] Seafarer [Storm Priest]

6 风眷者 Wind-Blessed* ✓

5 海洋歌者[精灵歌者] Ocean Songster [Elvish Songster] ✓

4 灾难主祭 Cataclysmic Interrer

3 海王 Sea King


未知途径 ??? Pathway: (7/10)

9 窥秘人 Mystery Pryer

8 格斗法师 Melee Scholar

7 巫师 Warlock*

6 卷轴教授 Scrolls Professor

5 星象师 Constellations Master

4 神秘学家 Mysticologist

3

2

1 知识皇帝 Knowledge Emperor


未知途径 ??? Pathway: (7/10)

9 仲裁人 Arbiter

8 治安官 Sheriff

7 审讯者 Interrogator

6 法官 Judge*

5 惩戒骑士 Disciplinary Paladin

3-4 织法者(可能是4) Law Weaver (Likely 4)

3-4 律令法师(可能是3)Imperative Mage (Likely 3)


太阳途径 Sun Pathway (7/10)

9 歌颂者 Bard ✓

8 祈光人 Light Suppliant ✓

7 太阳神官 Solar High Priest* ✓

6 公证人 Notary ✓

5 光之祭司[光明使者] Priest of Light [Envoy of Light] ✓

4 无暗者(只知道主材) Unshadowed X (Main ingredients only)

3

2

1

0 太阳 Sun


红祭司途径 Red Priest Pathway: (7/10)

9 猎人 Hunter

8 挑衅者 Provoker

7 纵火家[火法师] Pyromaniac [Fire Mage]

6 阴谋家 Conspirer*

5 收割者 Reaper

4 铁血骑士 Iron-Blooded Knight

3

2

1

0 红祭司 Red Priest


[巨人]未知途径 [Giant] ??? Pathway: (6/10)

9 战士 Warrior

8 格斗家[角斗士] Pugilist [Gladiator]

7 武器大师 Weapon Master

6 黎明骑士 Dawn Paladin*

5 守护者 Guardian

4 猎魔人 Demon Hunter


未知途径 ??? Pathway: (6/10)

9 学徒 apprentice ✓

8 戏法大师 Trickmaster ✓

7 占星人 Astrologer ✓

6 记录官 Scribe*

5 旅行家 Traveler

4 秘法师 Secrets Sorcerer


【吸血鬼】未知途径 [Vampire] ??? Pathway: (6/10)

9 药师 Apothecary ✓

8 驯兽师 Beast Tamer

7 吸血鬼 Vampire*

6 魔药教授 Potions Professor

5 深红学者 Scarlet Scholar

4 巫王 Shaman King


【异种】未知途径 [Mutant] ??? Pathway: (6/10)

9 囚犯 Prisoner

8 疯子 Lunatic

7 狼人 Werewolf*

6 活尸 Zombie

5 怨魂 Wraith

4 木偶 Puppet


未知途径 ??? Pathway: (6/10)

9 偷盗者 Marauder

8 诈骗师 Swindler

7 解密学者 Cryptologist

6 盗火人 Fire Bandit*

5 窃梦者 Dream Stealer

4 寄生者 Parasite


未知途径 ??? Pathway: (5/10)

9 怪物 Monster

8

7 幸运儿 The Lucky

6

5 赢家 Winner

4

3

2 先知 Soothsayer

1 水银之蛇 Snake of Mercury


未知途径 ??? Pathway: (5/10)

9 耕种者 Planter

8 医生[治疗牧师] Doctor [Healing Pastor]

7 丰收主祭 Harvest Priest

6 生物学家 Biologist

5 德鲁伊 Druid


未知途径 ??? Pathway: (5/10)

9 秘祈人 Secrets Suppliant

8 倾听者[耳语者] Listener [Whispered]

7 隐修士 Shadow Ascetic

6 蔷薇主教 Rose Bishop

5 牧羊人 Shepherd


未知途径 ??? Pathway: (4/10)

9 阅读者 Reader

8

7 守知者 Knowledge Keeper

6 博学者 Polymath*

5 秘术导师 Mysticism Magister


未确定途径 Unknown Pathways: (4)

4 预言家(非常有可能是阅读者途径,可能是窥秘人途径)Prophet 

? 旅法师 Planeswalker (几乎可以确定是学徒的高序列)

? 天气术士 Weather Warlock


已知序列间关系:


水手|歌颂者|阅读者|观众|秘祈人    Sailor|Bard|Reader|Spectator|Secrets Supplicant

占卜家|学徒|偷盗者    Seer|apprentice|Marauder

不眠者|战士|收尸人    Sleepless|Warrior|Corpse Collector

耕种者|药师|怪物 Planter|Apothecary|Monster

通识者|窥秘人    Savant|Mystery Pryer

仲裁人|律师    Arbiter|Lawyer

刺客|猎人     Assassin|Hunter

罪犯|囚犯    Criminal|Prisoner



 Alessan  

塔罗会 Tarot Club:

塔罗会成员 Tarot Club Members:


愚者 The Fool

灰雾的掌控者。塔罗会的领袖。Controller of the Gray Fog. Leader of the Tarot Club.

座椅符号 Chair Symbol: 不完整的隐秘之眼和变化之线的结合  Combination of Incomplete Secrecy and Change Symbols 

手背标记 Hand Marking: 四个方形黑点  Four Black Dots in the shape of a square.


奥黛丽·霍尔 - 正义(序列7心理医生)  Audrey Hall - Justice (Sequence 7 Psychiatrist)

晋级历史:观众-41章,读心者-221章,心理医生-519章

Advancement History: Spectator Chapter 41, Telepathist Chapter 221, Psychiatrist Chapter 519.

加入章节:第五章  Joined: Chapter 5

座椅符号:巨龙  Chair Symbol:  Giant Dragon

手背标记:星辰  Hand Marking:  Star

人脉关系:心理炼金会的成员。鲁恩的霍尔伯爵之女。

 Connections: Member of the Psychology Alchemists. Daughter of Loen’s Earl Hall.

财产 Wealth:

- 三十万-三十五万金镑的财产和股票 300,000-350,000 Pounds in property and stocks

- 谎言(5500镑)Lie (5500 Pounds)


阿尔杰·威尔逊 - 倒吊人(序列5海洋歌者)

Alger Wilson - The Hanged Man (Sequence 5 Ocean Songster)

晋级历史:航海家-36章,风眷者-592章,海洋歌者-783章 

Advancement History: Seafarer Chapter 36, Wind-blessed Chapter 592, Ocean Songster Chapter 783.

加入章节:第五章  Joined: Chapter 5

座椅符号:风暴 Chair Symbol: Storm

手背标记 Hand Marking:  六角雪花 Hexagonal Snowflake

人脉关系:风暴教会执事。知名的海盗船长。

 Connections: Church of Storms Clergyman. Known Pirate Captain.

财产 Wealth:

- 很少的现金 Very Few Pounds

- 精神之鞭(3100镑)Whip of Mind (3100 Pounds)

- 图铎幽灵船Tudor Ghost Ship

- 某个原始岛屿的坐标 Primitive Island Coordinates


戴里克·伯格 - 太阳(序列6公证人)Derrick Berg - The Sun (Sequence 6 Notary)

晋级历史:歌颂者-157章,祈光人-290章,太阳神官-592章,公证人-767章

Advancement History: Bard Chapter 157, Light Suppliant Chapter 290, Solar High Priest Chapter 592, Notary Chapter 767.

加入章节:137章  Joined: Chapter 137

座椅符号:太阳  Chair Symbol: Sun

手背标记 : 太阳   Hand Marking Sun

人脉关系:白银城探险队的队长。Connections: Exploratory Team Captain of the City of Silver.


财产 Wealth:

- 基于对白银城贡献值获取的非凡材料和特性。Contribution based access to Beyonder ingredients and Characteristics the City of Silver posses.

- 雷神咆哮 Thunder God’s Roar

- 还欠着公证人的配方 In debt for Notary Formula


格尔曼·斯帕罗 - 世界(序列5秘偶大师) Gherman Sparrow - The World(Sequence 5 Marionettist)

晋级历史:占卜家-第五章,小丑-168章,魔术师-295章, 无面人-451章,秘偶大师-664章

Advancement History: Seer Chapter 5, Clown Chapter 168, Magician Chapter 295, Faceless Chapter 451, Marionettist Chapter 664.

加入章节:264章 Joined: Chapter 264

座椅符号:无  Chair Symbol: None

人脉关系:愚者的眷者    Connections: Blessed of The Fool


佛尔思·沃尔 - 魔术师(序列7占星人)Fors Wall - The Magician (Sequence 7 Astrologer)

晋级历史:戏法大师-542章,占星人-739章

Advancement History: Trickmaster Chapter 542, Astrologer Chapter 739.

加入章节:297章   Joined: Chapter 297

座椅符号:层叠的门   Chair Symbol: Layered Door

手背标记:未知  Hand Marking: N/A

人脉关系:亚伯拉罕直系后裔的学生。能听到门先生的呓语。

Connections: Disciple of a direct descendant of the Abraham Family. Hears the ravings of Mr. Door.

财产 Wealth:

- 约3000镑  ~3000 Pounds

- 莱曼诺的笔记本(30000镑)Leymano’s Travels (30000 Pounds)

- 仅剩一颗的传送手链  Bracelet of Teleportation, One bead remaining


埃姆林·怀特 - 月亮(序列6魔药教授)  Emlyn White - The Moon(Sequence 6 Potions Professor)

晋级历史:魔药教授-592章  Advancement History: Potions Professor Chapter 592.

加入章节:467章  Joined: Chapter 467

座椅符号:红月   Chair Symbol: Crimson Moon

手背符号:未知   Hand Marking: N/A

人脉关系:纯血血族。和大地母神教会有联系。

Connections: Pureblood Sanguine. Ties with the Church of the Earth Mother.

财产  Wealth:

- 约4500镑  ~4500 Pounds

- 莉莉丝的指环  Lilith’s Ring

- 很多手办娃娃  Lots of Dolls


嘉德丽雅 - 隐者(序列5星象师)Cattleya - The Hermit (Sequence 5 Constellations Master)

晋级历史:无  Advancement History: N/A

加入章节:564章  Joined: Chapter 564

座椅符号:无睫之瞳和星星的组合  Chair Symbol: Indifferent Lash-less Eyes formed of Stars

手背符号:未提及   Hand Marking: Not Mentioned

人脉关系:摩斯苦修会的成员。贝尔纳黛·古斯塔夫的养女。海盗将军。

Connections: Member of the Moses Ascetic Order. Adopted daughter of Bernadette Gustav. Pirate Admiral.

财产  Wealth:

- 未知  ????-????? Pounds

- 两个未知的非凡物品  Two Unknown Mystical Items

- 幸运天平(11000镑)Scales of Luck (11000 Pounds)

- 未来号 Flagship Future


塔罗聚会章节:  Tarot Club Chapters:

✓ = 有罗赛尔日记的章节  Pages of Roselle’s Diary

5

34

58 ✓ ✓ ✓

93 ✓

113 ✓

143 ✓ ✓

157 ✓

216 ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓

236 ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓

264 ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓

289 ✓

310

341 ✓ ✓

358 ✓ ✓ ✓

390 ✓ ✓ ✓

439 ✓ ✓ ✓

460 ✓ ✓ ✓

483 ✓ ✓ ✓

514 ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓

565 ✓

592

615 ✓ ✓ ✓

678

714 ✓ ✓ ✓

743 ✓

765 ✓ ✓ ✓

789 ✓ ✓ (只写了最后两页 Final two pages written)


同样有找到日记的章节: Diary also found in Chapters:

21 ✓ ✓

317 ✓ ✓


 Alessan  

当前财产情况 Current Stash:

现金 Cash:

(17000金镑)(17,000 Pounds)

约22996金镑   ~22996 Pounds

还欠蕾妮特5987金镑    5987 Gold Coin debt TO Reinette


【7】件非凡物品   [7] Mystical Items:

(价值56200金镑)(56,200 Pounds)

海神节杖(价值极高)   Sea God Scepter (Lots)

格罗塞尔的游记(???)  Grosselle’s Travels (???)

蠕动的饥饿(30000镑)  Creeping Hunger (30000 Pounds)

丧钟(11000镑)  Death Knell (11000 Pounds)

血之花(约8000镑?)  Flower of Blood (~8000 Pounds?)

生物毒素瓶(5200镑)  Biological Poison Bottle (5200 Pounds)

太阳胸针(2000镑)  Midsummer/Sun Brooch (2000 Pounds)


【7】件非凡特性  [7] Beyonder Characteristics:

(价值34150镑)(34,150 Pounds)

蠕动的饥饿中的非凡特性(24000镑)Creeping Hunger Characteristics (24000 Pounds)

- 欲望使徒特性(8000镑) Desire Apostle Characteristic (8000 Pounds)

- 旅行家特性(8000镑)  Traveler Characteristic (8000 Pounds)

- 腐化男爵特性(4000镑)  Baron of Corruption Characteristic (4000 Pounds)

- 活尸特性(4000镑)  Zombie Characteristic (4000 Pounds)


光之祭司特性(8000镑)Priest of Light Characteristic (8000 Pounds)

审讯官特性(1500镑)Interrogator Characteristic (1500 Pounds)

疯子特性(650镑) Lunatic Characteristic (650 Pounds)


【5】符咒&杂物   [5] Charms & Miscellaneous:

(价值7500镑)(7500 Pounds)

黑皇帝牌(无价) Dark Emperor Card (Priceless)

窃运者符咒(?) Luck Siphon Charm (?)

阿兹克的铜哨(未知)  Azik’s Copper Whistle (N/A)

巨人王庭的钥匙(5000镑)  Giant King’s Court Key (5000 Pounds)

戴里克欠的公证人配方(约2500镑)  Derrick Notary Formula Debt (~2500 Pounds)


【1】秘偶  [1] Marionettes:

(价值8000镑)(8000 Pounds)

怨魂,血之上将塞尼奥尔(8000镑)  Wraith Blood Senor (8000 Pounds)

- 怨魂特性(8000镑)  Wraith Characteristic (8000 Pounds)

- 42000镑赏金(?)  42000 Pound Bounty (?)


总计  Total:

122800金镑+黑皇帝牌+海神节杖+格罗塞尔游记+窃运者符咒

122,800 Pounds + Dark Emperor Card + Sea God Scepter + Grosselle’s Travels + Luck Siphon Charm


 Alessan  

Mental Terror Candle

A short black candle covered in an outer layer of human skin, covered in dense scale-like patterns. Said to have been left behind by a dragon, likely equal to a Mid Sequence Beyonder of the Dreamer Pathway. Allows one to enter the deepest part of someone’s soul and the bottom of the targets dreamland. There, a corresponding scene will be materialized. Can also be used to create a psychological cue. After five minutes the user will completely lose consciousness and be unable to return to their body, becoming a sacrifice to the candle. If you are killed in the dreamland similar effects will also occur. Currently owned by Father Utravsky.

心魇蜡烛

小半根黑色的蜡烛,外层裹着一圈人皮,分出了细微而密布的鳞片状花纹。据说是一只巨龙留下的东西,很可能相当于一件空想家途径中序列非凡者。能让人进入一个人的灵魂最深处和目标的梦境底部。在这里,相应的场景会得到具现。也可以用这根蜡烛来进行心理暗示。在五分钟之后,使用者会完全失去理智,无法回归自己的身体,成为这根蜡烛的祭品。如果你在梦境中被杀,类似的效果也会发生。目前由乌特拉夫斯基神父持有。


(回复一楼) DaoistBonsai  

You missed several potion names

-Death Pathway: Death Consul(Sequences 2 or 3) Chp:588

-I think the name of the witch/despair pathway is Primordial: Chp:588

-Mutant Pathway: Abomination(Sequences 1 or 2) Chp:735

-Marauder Pathway: Worm of Time(Sequences 2 or 3) Chp:393 and Chp 770

-The proper name of the monster/snake of mercury pathway is Wheel of Fortune Chp:609

-Wheel of Fortune Pathway: Fate Councilor(Sequences 4)

你漏掉了很多魔药的名字

-死亡途径:死亡执政官(序列2或3)出自588章

-我觉得应该是魔女/绝望途径的——原初:出自588章

-异种途径:神孽(序列1或2)出自735章

-偷盗者途经:时之虫(序列2或3)出自393章和770章

-怪物/水银之蛇途径的正确名称是命运之轮,出自609章

-命运之轮途径:命运议员(序列4)


(回复楼上) Alessan  

First let me say I really appreciate you including the chapters it makes everything much easier for me and makes discussion easier. Let me try and refute most of these one by one with the reasoning I went by.

Death Consul: To me this sounds like a title or governmental position instead of a Potion. The main reason for this is its prefaced by "Balam Empire's" and means an official appointed by a government to live in a foreign city. While its possible its a potion name I'm not willing to add it until its confirmed.

Primordial: I believe this is just a shortened version of the God's name Primordial Demoness. It doesn't make too much sense as a potion name based on the meaning. If I had to guess I would guess Sequence 0 is just 'Demoness' but I have no idea. The entire time its referring to a single entity and not something vaguer. Even if its possible (though I don't think its the name) its also unconfirmed so I haven't added it

Abomination: I had originally added this (as Sequence 2, its impossible for a Sequence 1 to be alive if a Sequence 0 is) but later removed it. The reason is Sharon just said "Probably" and didn't give an affirmative answer. Its unclear whether she doesn't know or just doesn't want to say.

Worm of Time; So far its only been proven that Worm of Time is an ability used by Marauder's and not a Sequence potion. It is very likely that it is but it hasn't been confirmed. In Chapter 393 its only mentioned some people suspect it is a Sequence potion but again it hasn't been confirmed. In 770 its just an object.

Wheel of Fortune Pathway: After rereading the chapter I agree with you, I will change my notes accordingly :)

Fate Councilor: If I remember correctly the Life School of thought is formed of a council. There are seven members including the Chairman Will Auceptin and the councilors are made up of demigods. My understanding of this term is that it simply refers to a demigod member of the Life School of Thought and not a specific Sequence. After all it can be assumed that there are a variety of Sequences on the council ranging from 2-4. This one I'm very willing to be corrected on if you can find anything contradictory in the story so far.

The same goes for the rest. Feel free to let me know if you disagree with any of the reasoning I've mentioned in this comment. Thanks again for including the chapters in your comment it makes discussion much easier. I wouldn't have caught Wheel of Fortune without you pointing it out!

首先我要感谢你一下,你在每个名字后面都备注了出自的章节号,这真的让我的查阅工作和我们的讨论变得轻松简单了许多,非常感谢。接下来我来试着用我的推理一个个反驳其中的大部分问题。

死亡执政官:对我来说这听起来更像是一个头衔,或者某种职位,而不是魔药的名字。主要原因是,他之前还加了一个前缀“拜亚姆帝国的”,那结合起来它的意思就是“一个政府委任到外国城市的长官”的意思。虽然它是有可能是魔药的名字,但在它证实之前我还不想把它加进列表里面。

原初:我相信这只是神名“原初魔女”的简化版称呼。这作为魔药名的话,从意义上来说比较说不通啊。如果我必须要猜的话,我会猜序列0就是单纯的“魔女”俩字,但我也不知道。从始至终它指向的都是同一个单一的存在,而不是某种更模糊的概念的东西。即使它有可能是魔药名(但我不觉得会是),那也是未证实的,所以我不打算加进去。

神孽:我一开始是加上了的(作为序列2,它不可能是序列1,因为有序列0在)但我后来又删掉了。因为莎伦只是说它“有可能”是,而且没有给出任何肯定的答复。目前还不清楚她是不知道还是不愿意说。

时之虫;目前关于时之虫证实的只有它是一种偷盗者的能力,而不是序列魔药名。它很可能是,但还是未经证实。393章里只提到有些人怀疑它是序列魔药名,但还是未经证实。770章里它就只是个物品而已。

命运之轮途径:重读了那章之后,我得说我同意你的观点,我会修改我的笔记的:)

命运议员:如果我记得没错的话,生命学派是以议会的方式存在的。有包括煮席威尔·昂赛汀在内的七名委员,而且议员们都是半神。我关于这个词的理解是,这只是描述生命学派的半神成员的一个词,并不是特定序列的名字。毕竟,这可以被理解为是命运议会里面的2-4序列的总称。如果你能在目前为止的故事里找到与这一点不符的地方,我很乐意纠正我的观点。

剩下的的也是这样。如果你不同意我在这篇评论中提到的任何推理,请随时告诉我。再次感谢你在评论里标注了这些名字出现的章节号,这样讨论起来容易多了。要不是你指出来,我也不会发现命运之轮这个错误!


 Alessan  

Here’s to hoping Klein can forcefully sever his connection to the Goddess’s Sword with the gray fog. I think it’s worth the risk. Even IF there is a chance he could use the connection to bypass some of the Chanis Gate seals it’s just a latent danger constantly looming over his head. He could be potentially discovered, tracked or even attacked through the connection at any time. Likely by surprise too. It could even allow the Evernight Goddess herself to watch or influence him and perhaps even use him as a bridge to access the Gray Fog like the Mother Tree of Desire wanted to do in Balam. A whole host of problems for very little gain.

希望克莱恩能用灰雾强制切断他和女神之剑的联系。我觉得这值得冒险。即使他有能用这种联系来绕过某些查尼斯门后的封印的机会,那也是时刻悬在他头顶的潜在威胁。因为这个联系,他随时都有可能会被发现,追踪或者甚至攻击。而且很有可能是在完全意想不到的时候。这甚至有可能让黑夜女神本人有机会时刻监视他或影响他,也许甚至是用他当做桥梁来进入灰雾,就像欲望母树在拜亚姆想做的事那样。相比起能获得的好处,问题实在是太多太多了。


 Multipartite  

Hmm. Not too far off, it sounds like the Venn diagrams of 'people who know The World is Sherlock Moriarty' and 'people who know The World is Gehrman Sparrow' are going to be overlapping...

唔。差不了太多了,现在似乎知道“世界就是夏洛克·莫里亚蒂”的人和知道“世界就是格尔曼·斯帕罗”的人的群体现在已经要重合在一起了……


ArkJin  

Zhou and Klein's conversation continues

"Who are you?"

"Yu"

"No, not me, you"

"Yes, I'm Yu"

"Are you deaf?"

"No, Yu is blind"

"I'm not blind. You blind"

"That is just what i said"

周明瑞和克莱恩的对话继续着

“你是谁?”

“我是你啊”

“不,没说我,我问你是谁”

“是啊,我就是你啊”

“你聋了吗?”

“不,是你瞎了吧”

“我没瞎,你才瞎了”

“我刚刚就这么说的啊”

【在英语里yu和you的发音极其相似……所以有些人会这么拼写】


【801章(不死者-69章)哀求】

 Surely_Panda  

Well done Klein, your life is on the line here and you know that it had to be done. The original Klein Moretti is long gone, you simply picked up what he left behind and do the best you can.

Good to see Klein avoid another protagonist cliche. It always bothers me that the supposed super determined world saving protagonist who have being through so much can so easily rattle by a few world from the antagonist.

干得漂亮克莱恩,你真的是命悬一线,而且你知道有些事必须要这么做。原本的克莱恩·莫雷蒂早已不在了,你也只能捡起他留下的这些东西,尽你最大的努力去做。

很高兴看到克莱恩避免了另一种老套的主角常会遇到的剧情。每次我看到那些命中注定要拯救世界的超级英雄主角被对手的几句话就那么容易地给动摇了,我都觉得非常无语。


 kaitytails  

I wonder if this happened to roselle ? It is also kinda sad , everytime he mentions going back home , i realize they re will be an end to this all

不知道类似的事情是不是也在罗赛尔身上发生了呢?这事也挺令人伤感的,每次他提到想回家的时候,我都意识到那就会是这一切的结束


 Alessan  

dang, I feel kind of sad. At least the problem was resolved.

唉,我感觉有点难过。不过至少这问题还是解决了。


(回复楼上) Ancient_Devil  

I actually feel rather happy, I don't wanna read about him have a split personality.

我反而感觉很高兴,不想再看他身上有什么分出来的人格之类的了。


 Snapplemonkey  

Man Klein's self doubts started appearing, good thing he nipped it in the bud.

天啊,克莱恩开始产生自我怀疑了,还好他在萌芽状态就给掐灭了。


 Ozwin  

Why do I feel that this issue has been solved a bit too quickly and cleanly?

为啥我感觉这个事解决得也太快太利落了点?


(回复楼上) Dex2  

Klein did target it when it was still weak. It wasn't the same level as when that mirror caused another Klein to appear

克莱恩在问题还很轻微的时候就定位了它。这和那次克莱恩照到镜子产生的那个人格还不是一个级别的事


(回复一楼) ScentedDreams  

I think it’s foreshadowing that similar issues will appear later when he reach higher sequences or something

我觉得这是在预示以后类似的事情还会发生,等到他晋级更高的序列或者什么的之后


 MondSemmel  

I wonder if Klein will change how Gehrman Sparrow presents himself now. After all, the latter supposedly used the Candle.

不知道克莱恩会不会在之后改变一下格尔曼·斯帕罗展现给外界的印象。毕竟,之后大家都认为他应该是用过了蜡烛的格尔曼了。


【802章(不死者-70章)后续的办法】

 Jackodaniels  

I can't help but feel that Klein is underutilizing arrodes. He now has unrestricted access, he can get detailed info on almost anything including evil organizations and probably a fair bit of history to boot. He could ask what is hidden in the sewers!

我无法抑制地感觉克莱恩对阿罗德斯的运用太不充分了。他现在已经拥有不受限制的权限,理应能得到几乎任何甚至包括邪恶组织的团体的情报了,而且可能还能发掘出一些历史信息。他可以直接问下水道里藏着的东西到底是什么啊!


(回复楼上) Snapplemonkey  

There is alway a risk to overusing a mystic artifact. Klein is just being his careful self.

过度使用一件神秘的封印物永远都是有风险的。克莱恩只是做了从心的选择。


(回复一楼) BluebellBerry  

However much I LOVE Arrodes, he's still quite suspicious. Helping Klein will somehow benefit him in some way. At first I thought so too but it's probably best if Klein doesn't rely too much on the mirror. Arrodes is practically all-knowing and knows just how many lofty Gods Klein has offended. Heck, they might all go after Klein someday. Who knows what intentions Arrodes really has. Best not to owe too many favors

虽然我非常非常爱阿罗德斯,但他目前还是很可疑的。帮助克莱恩是能给他在某些方面带来好处。一开始我也是这么以为的,但克莱恩不那么依赖于这面镜子也许是最好的。阿罗德斯几乎是全知的,而且他也知道克莱恩冒犯过多少位高高在上的神明大人。天啊,搞不好他们某天都会去找克莱恩的麻烦。谁知道阿罗德斯真正的动机到底是什么呢。最好还是不要欠它太多人情


(回复楼上) Surely_Panda  

Familiarity breeds contempt, Klein may just be trying to maintain the mystique of a great figure.

熟能生巧,也许克莱恩只是在试着维持一个大人物该有的神秘感。


 Alessan  

It should be possible for him to obtain another Marionette after acting a bit more and use that one maybe? Or does he have to use the Wraith’s special ability to hide it in his body? If so that’s truly a huge price to pay. So big I would say it’s worth it to go out of his way to find and kill another Wraith even if he slightly risks attracting the notice of the Rose School of Thought. A wraith is just too useful.

Note on the oath Klein swore with the Goddess’s Sword. It’s very unlikely for Cesimir to be able to detect the connection in close proximity. I’m chapter 285 when Cesimir was hunting Lanevus and Klein was watching in the shadows from very close by Klein wasn’t noticed. There were also no traces of his presence near Lanevus‘s corpse after he was killed. My impression is he isn’t able to be casually detected unless Cesimir is either actively looking for him or unless he increases his power or advances from Sequence 5 Spirit Warlock to Sequence 4 Nightwatcher and becomes a demigod. He should still try and break the connection though to avoid latent risks especially as there are no benefits to keeping it.

Also very curious about Emlyn’s ring next chapter :)

对他来说扮演一阵之后应该有能力再获得其他的一到两个密偶吧?或者他必须用怨魂的特殊能力才能把它藏进自己的身体里?如果是这样的话,那这个代价是真的很大。大到我觉得他就算是冒着引起玫瑰学派注意的轻微风险也值得去再猎杀一个怨魂。因为怨魂真的太太太好用了。

注意克莱恩用女神之剑发过的那个实验。塞西米尔应该没办法在近距离地情况下发现这种誓言的联系。285章里塞西米尔狩猎兰尔乌斯的时候,克莱恩在阴影中全程监视,他当时和克莱恩非常近,也没有发现他。而且在杀死兰尔乌斯之后,在他的尸体附近也没有什么能发现克莱恩来过的其他踪迹。在我的印象中,除非赛西米尔主动搜寻他,或者他从序列5灵巫晋级序列4守夜人成为半神之后能力增强了,不然应该是不可能随便就能发现他的。不过克莱恩还是应该试着破坏他和女神之剑的那种联系,为了避免潜在的危险,特别是保持这种联系并没有什么好处可言。

而且我对下一章埃姆林要获得的那枚戒指也非常好奇:)


 Mad_003  

Hehe, Smug Emelyn is always a sight to behold!

呵呵,自以为是的埃姆林总是人们目光的中心!

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