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中国网络小说的大问题

（译注：以下所谓的中国小说，都是指中国网络小说，请勿带入严肃文学。另外，我没看过论坛里讨论的小说，所以里面的人名剧情啥的翻译不一定正确。）

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AndyDarren
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Here I am reading Tranxending Vision thinking "man this is a pretty good novel, not much nationalism or racism to speak of..." then the mc takes a trip to a foreign country(Germany) and I immediately had a terrible forboding. Lo and behold we've got a gang of black guys who call themselves Black Dynasty strolling through the streets of Essen kidnapping and raping "white girls" and selling them on the black market while speaking and acting like stereotypical CN beta villians.
Please... CN authors... just stop.
In literally every modern CN novel I've read thus far things always develop horribly when the author writes anything related to foreign countries. Things are all well and good 100 chapters in then all of a sudden the mc goes to America and we meet up with Cleetus, JimBob and their nephsons going n***er hunting after downing a few Pabst Blue Ribbons at the local monster truck derby...
I'm alread 120 chapter into this novel and so far it had been going great but if this kinda bs persists then I'm gonna have to drop it like a bad habbit.

我在读一本叫《超品透视》的小说，一开始我还觉得“这小说真不错，也没啥民族主义或者种族主义...”然后主角去了外国（德国），我立马就感觉要糟。小说中埃森市有一群自称为黑色王朝的黑人帮派，横行霸道到处绑架和不可描述“白人女性”，然后把他们卖到黑市，就像中国版的标准坏人一样。

拜托啊......中国作者......别再这样了。
几乎我读过的每一本中国小说里，只要牵涉到外国就要黑一黑。这本小说前100章都还不错，直到主角突然去了美国遇见了克利图斯，吉姆鲍勃和他们的杂种在本地的怪物卡车大赛喝了几杯啤酒就要去猎杀黑人......
我已经看到120章了，目前还行，但如果再有这种内容我只能放弃了。

Johnnycabra
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you do know that CN webnovel authors don't browse english sites for novel critism.

你知道中国的网络小说作者可不看英文站上的批评。

mmonstra
Member
How unsurprising it is to see folks trying to justify what is being rightly criticized. Yeah, stereotypes are both common and bad in general in CN novels, but "Stereotypes and nationalism being common in CN novels means that racism, especially anti-black racism, is OK" is just about the coldest take I've seen today. Jfc.

果然有认为这种东西辩护。确实，刻板形象在中国小说很常见，但不代表“种族主义和反黑人的种族主义可以接受”。

AndyDarren
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I actually HAVE ranted multiple times about how Chinese authors represent villians in their novels and I'm so used to it that I've already stopped giving a shite. Don't assume that I'm biased just because you've never seen other posts from me. Also there's a difference when writing about yourself and your own people as someone who lives that experience and writing about another people and their lifestyles and cultures based off of stereotypes and your own boased views. This is especially inexcusable when we live in the information age and it doesn't take much to do a little research. This lack of research is especially obvious when foreign characters speak and act just like Chinese characters and villian characters where anybody who is actually from that region will tell you that it's total bs.

我其实对此问题已经发过几次帖子了，说实话我已经不怎么在乎了。但用自己的生活经验写一个角色和用刻板印象写一个角色和他们的文化是非常不同的。更别说我们生活在资讯时代，写一个文化而不做一些资料收集根本说不过去。特别是当小说中的外国人无论说话行为都和中国坏人角色一样的时候，任何来自那个地方的读者都会告诉你这全是扯淡。

Kutaifa
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I can't believe that i am actually reading people being upset over OP not being okay with racism in a CN novel.
To actually see people spout bullshit like: "But so do westerners!" And "Asians are generally very racist, so its okay!" are the most idiotic things i have read in a long time...
To actually see people trying to justify the inclusion of racism is absolutely baffling

不敢相信我真能看到有人因为楼主的贴子而不爽。
看见有人瞎扯什么“西方人也这样！”和“亚洲人都很种族歧视，所以这没问题！”是我这么久以来听过最蠢的话了。

mmonstra
Member
LMAO the misogyny in these novels can just be 
My biggest issue re: misogyny in these novels (by which I mean M/F romances with main FLs, and especially CN novels) is how men can be rapists and still a romantic lead, and how there's no fucking friendship between women. Granted, the first is a problem EVERYWHERE, including some recent Western romances, but the latter is just worse in the CN novels I've read. JP and KR novels are a little better at including friendships in their romances.

我最不爽的是中国小说里厌恶女性的态度。
最大的问题就是男性既是强奸犯又是浪漫领袖，而女人之间完全没有友情。第一点偶尔在西方浪漫小说中也时而得见，但第二点在中国小说中特别严重。日本和韩国的小说至少在浪漫里还有友情。

mmsupreme
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My problem is that almost every single character is so over the top that it somewhat becomes annoying. it gets to the point where if a person is calm in a situation then he is either the protagonist or the greatest villain mankind has seen. i want more standard interactions that arent exaggerated to the nth degree or the villains to actually be smart in a situation without the bs time attack scenario for the mc. hell i want a arc where the main villain dies completely randomly and it does absolutely nothing to the mc and he is just dumbfounded to see all his enemies dead

我觉得中国小说里最大的问题就是里面的人物太过浮夸。如果在意外中有谁能冷静处事，那他不是主角就是最终BOSS。我想看到更多更正常的反应，包括智商正常的坏蛋。我甚至期望看到最终BOSS意外身亡，主角那惊讶的样子。

ToastedRossi
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The book I'm thinking of is 燃烧的莫斯科 and it's about the Eastern Front in World War II. This is an extremely unpopular subject in English. The ones I've read are all based on old historiography so they're trash. Even aside from the subject being unique, this book would still be one of the best novels I've read about World War II.
In general, it's an extremely poor idea to base your opinion on Chinese webnovels purely on what you read on NU. Only a very limited selection of novels ever get translated, and it's not going to be reflective of even what's available in Chinese, much less representative of the best of these novels.

我想到一本书叫《燃烧的莫斯科》，是关于二战东部的故事。这种题材在英语小说中很不常见，而且他们都是根据历史资料写的所以很没意思。就算抛去题材的独特性，《燃烧的莫斯科》也是我读过关于二战最好的一本小说。

我的意思是，不要因为看了几本中国网络小说就为它们定调。事实上被翻译过来的中国小说数量很少，不足以反映中国网络小说的真实情况，更不用说他们未必是中国小说中的佳作。