JP 对圣经的认识 Jordan Peterson's Realization About the Bible

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第一本是《圣经》，然后它变成了

各种各样的书，每个人都可以买

但所有这些书在某种意义上

但所有这些书在某种意义上都是从那本基本的书中产生的，而

那本书本身，圣经并不是一本书

它是一个图书馆

它是一个书的集合

the jurogan experience if categories

just just dissolve especially

fundamental ones

the culture is dissolving because the

culture is a structure of category

that's what it is

so and in fact culture is a strat

culture is a

structure of category that we all share

so we see things the same way well

that's why we can talk i mean not

exactly the same way because then we'd

have nothing to talk about but

roughly speaking we have a bedrock of

agreement

that's the bible by the way

so i just walked through the museum of

the bible in washington that was very

cool it's a very cool museum so the

structure that's what the bible is what

i figured out i mean i just figured this

out this week

so it was a cool

it was a cool thing to walk through

because

it's it's chronological they have one

floor which is the history of the bible

it's not exactly that it's really what

it is is the history of the book

now in many ways the first book was the

bible i mean literally

because

at one point there was only one book

like as far as our western culture is

concerned there was one book and for a

while literally there was only one book

and that book was the bible and then

before it was the bible it was a you

know scrolls and it was writings on

papyrus and but it was we were starting

to aggregate written texts together and

it went through all sorts of

technological transformations and then

it became

books that everybody could buy the book

everybody could buy and the first one of

those was the bible and then it became

all sorts of books that everybody could

buy

but all those books in some sense

emerged out of that underlying book and

that book itself the bible isn't a book

it's a library

it's a collection of books

and so

what i figured out was partly because i

was talking to my brother-in-law jim

keller who's

the world's greatest chip designer and

has now designed a chip

that's as powerful as the human brain

which is optimized for artificial

intelligence learning by the way and so

i talked to him about that he said you

heard of the internet

i said yeah jim i've heard of the

internet he said

this is way more revolutionary than that

so in any case we were talking about

meaning in text because we were talking

about translation and the problem of

understanding text and jim said

the meaning of words is coded in the

relationship of the words to one another

and the postmodernists make that case

that all meaning is derived from the

relationship between words that's wrong

because

well what about rage that's not words

and what about moving your hand that's

not words so it's wrong but but part of

it's right because

the meaning we derive from the verbal

domain is encoded in the relationship

between words

so

so now then you think well let's think

about the relationship between words

well some words are dependent on other

words some ideas are dependent on other

ideas

the more ideas are dependent on a given

idea the more fundamental that idea is

that's a definition of fundamental

so now imagine you have an aggregation

of texts in a civilization you say which

are the fundamental texts and the answer

is

the texts upon which most other texts

depend and so you put shakespeare way in

there in english because so many texts

are dependent on shakespeare's literary

revelations and milton would be in that

category and dante would be in that

category at least in translation

fundamental authors part of the western

canon not because of the arbitrary

dictates of power

but because those texts influenced more

other texts and then you think about

that as a hierarchy

okay with the bible at its base which is

certainly the case

now imagine that's the entire corpus of

of linguistic production all things

considered

now how do you understand that like

literally how do you understand that the

answer is you sample it by reading and

listening to stories and listening to

people talk you sample that whole domain

you build a low resolution

representation of that in your inside

you

and then you listen and see

through that

and so it isn't that the bible is true

it's that the bible is the precondition

for the manifestation of truth

which makes it way more true than just

true

it's a whole different kind of true and

i think this is i think this is not only

literally the case

factually i think it can't be any other

way

it's the only way we can solve the

problem of perception

朱罗根的经验如果分类

就会溶解，特别是

基本范畴

文化就会消亡，因为

文化是一个类别的结构

这就是它的本质

因此，事实上文化是一个结构

文化是一个

文化是一个类别结构，我们都共享

所以我们看待事物的方式是一样的

这就是为什么我们可以交谈 我的意思是不完全一样

不是完全相同的方式，因为那样我们就

因为那样我们就没什么可谈的了，但

大致上，我们有一个基础的

协议

顺便说一下，那就是圣经

所以我刚刚走过华盛顿的圣经博物馆

所以我刚刚走过华盛顿的圣经博物馆，那是非常

这是一个非常酷的博物馆。

结构 这就是圣经的内容

我想明白了，我是说，我只是想明白了这一点

我是说我这周才发现的

所以它是一个很酷的

这是一个很酷的事情，走过

因为

它是按时间顺序排列的，他们有一个

一层是圣经的历史

这并不完全是说，它是真正的

它是这本书的历史

现在在很多方面，第一本书是

我的意思是，从字面上看，《圣经》是

因为

因为在某一时刻，只有一本书

就我们的西方文化而言

就我们的西方文化而言，有一本书，而且有一段时间

有一段时间只有一本书

那本书是《圣经》，然后

在它成为圣经之前，它是一本你知道的书卷

在它成为圣经之前，它是一个你知道的卷轴，它是写在

纸莎草纸，但它是我们开始

但我们开始将书面文本聚集在一起，并

它经历了各种各样的

技术的转变，然后

它变成了

书籍，每个人都可以买到这本书

每个人都可以买到的书，其中第一个

第一本是《圣经》，然后它变成了

各种各样的书，每个人都可以

买

但所有这些书在某种意义上

但所有这些书在某种意义上都是从那本基本的书中产生的，而

那本书本身，圣经并不是一本书

它是一个图书馆

它是一个书的集合

所以

我想明白了，部分原因是我

和我的姐夫Jim谈话

凯勒，他是

世界上最伟大的芯片设计师和

现在已经设计了一个芯片

和人脑一样强大

这是为人工智能学习而优化的

人工智能学习的方式，所以

我跟他谈起这个问题，他说你

他说你听说过互联网吗？

我说是的，Jim，我听说过互联网。

互联网，他说

这比那更有革命性

所以在任何情况下，我们都在讨论

文字中的意义，因为我们在讨论

因为我们在讨论翻译和理解文本的问题

理解文本的问题，Jim说

词语的意义被编码在

词与词之间的关系

而后现代主义者提出的观点是

所有的意义都来自于

后现代主义者认为所有的意义都来自于词语之间的关系，这是错误的

因为

愤怒又如何，那不是文字

还有移动你的手是什么，那不是

不是文字，所以它是错的，但也有一部分

它是正确的，因为

我们从言语中获得的意义

的意义被编码在词与词之间的关系中

词语之间的关系

所以

所以，现在你想，好吧，让我们想想

关于词与词之间的关系

好吧，有些词是依赖于其他

词的关系，有些想法是依赖于其他的

思想

越多的想法依赖于一个特定的

思想，这个思想就越基本

这是对基本的定义

所以现在想象一下，你有一个文明中的文本汇总

文明中的各种文本，你说哪些是

是基本的文本，答案是

答案是

大多数其他文本所依赖的文本

所以你把莎士比亚的方式放在

所以你把莎士比亚放在英语里，因为有很多文本

因为许多文本都依赖于莎士比亚的文学作品

启示，米尔顿就属于这个范畴。

米尔顿属于这一类，丹特也属于这一类

至少在翻译上是这样的

西方基本作家的一部分

不是因为权力的专横

权力的支配

而是因为这些文本影响了更多

其他文本，然后你就会想到

这就是一个等级制度

好的，以《圣经》为基础，这是

当然是这样的

现在想象一下，这是整个语料库的

语言生产的全部内容

都考虑到了

现在，你如何理解这一点呢？

从字面上看，你是如何理解的呢？

答案是你通过阅读和

听故事和听

人们的谈话 你对整个领域进行采样

你建立一个低分辨率的

在你的内心建立一个低分辨率的代表

你

然后你听和看

通过它

所以并不是说《圣经》是真的

而是《圣经》是真理显现的先决条件

为真理的表现

这使得它的真实性远远超过了单纯的

真实

它是一种完全不同的真实，而且

我认为这是我认为这不仅是

从字面上看是这样的

事实上，我认为它不可能是任何其他方式

办法

这是唯一的方法，我们可以解决

观念的问题