How to enter the state of Zen
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- And the master raised his finger and said,
- 并且禅师竖起他的手指说到,
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"Enter zen from there from here."
“从那里(这里)入禅。”
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Every point is...
每个点都是。。。
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These things cannot be explained,
这些不能被解释,
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that you spoil them if you explain them.
否则它们会被你糟蹋掉。
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I've just explained it unfortunately.
糟糕的是我刚刚就是在解释。
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(audience laughing)
(观众的笑声)
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(screen dinging)
(叮)
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Do you remember the story I recounted I believe
你们是否还记得应该是在《新世界》中的
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in "A New Earth?"
一个故事?
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The story of a zen master who is on a pilgrimage.
那是一个关于一位禅师进行朝圣之旅的故事。
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That's the ancient word for a hike.
朝圣是远足的古语
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(audience laughing)
(观众的笑声)
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He's on a pilgrimage somewhere with a disciple.
他正在进行朝圣之旅,有一个信徒跟着他。
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And so they're walking in silence, of course,
当然,他们一路无言,
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except, of course, the disciple hasn't quite arrived yet
除了这个信徒还没有到达
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at the realization that zen aims at.
察觉到禅的旨意的境界。
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So the disciple is walking
因此这个信徒走着,
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but obviously thinking while he's walking.
显然一路上他产生了很多念头。
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Finally, they sit down somewhere for a little picnic,
终于,他们在某个地方坐下来吃点东西
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a break, and then the disciple says to the master,
休息一下,然后信徒对禅师说道,
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"Master, I've been thinking.
“大师,我一直在想。
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I still don't get it.
但是我仍然没明白。
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I've been here for five years
我来这里已经有五年了。
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and I still don't get what is the essence of what you teach?
但是我仍然没明白您所教内容的精髓。
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What is that essence?
精髓是什么?
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I just can't get.
我不明白。
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I've trying to figure it out but I can't."
我试着弄清楚但是我做不到。
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And the master said,
禅师说到,
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"Can you hear the sound
“你能听到山间小溪
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of that mountain stream, that little?"
的声音吗?
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And the disciple said, "What mountain stream?
信徒说到,“什么山间小溪?
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I don't hear anything."
我没听到任何声音。”
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The master said, "Listen carefully."
禅师说到,“仔细听。”
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And so the disciple goes, and then in the very far distance,
信徒就继续听,然后在非常遥远的地方,
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the disciple hears the sound of water,
他听到了流水声,
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of a little mountain stream, very distant.
来自非常遥远的山间小溪。
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And then the disciple says,
然后信徒说到,
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"Yeah, I can hear it now, master."
“现在我听到了,大师。”
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And the master says,
然后禅师说了大概这样的话:
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something like "That is the portal
“这就是入禅的法门。”
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into zen or there is the beginning of zen.
或者是“禅就是从那里开始。
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That's it. That's it."
就是如此,就是如此。”
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And for a moment,
不久。。。
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I don't know how long, the disciple actually gets it.
我不知道过了多久,信徒悟到了。
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Wow.
哇。
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And he gets it because his mind stops and awareness remains.
他悟到了是因为他的心智停止了,觉察保留了下来。
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And why did that happen?
为什么会这样呢?
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Because all his consciousness,
因为他的所有意识,
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conscious attention was required
注意力被感官知觉所占用了,
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for the sensory, in this case, auditory perception.
在这个例子里是听觉。
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There wasn't enough left so to speak
可以这么说,没有足够的注意力
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to be consumed by thinking.
让念头使用了。
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So there was a cessation of thinking
所以思维停止了,
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and arising of presence.
临在浮现了。
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The master very cleverly arranged it, I mean, in that way
大师很聪明地回答了这个问题,
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rather than saying stop thinking, which wouldn't work.
而不是直接说停止思考,这样不会起作用。
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So the disciple got it.
因此信徒领悟了。
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In some versions, there's a continuation of the story.
在其他版本中,这个故事还有后续。
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So they finish their picnic, they walk on
他们吃完了,继续上路。
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and an hour later, by then the disciple has fallen back
一个小时后,信徒又回到了
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into a stream of useless thinking, of course.
无尽的无用思考当中。
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And the disciple says, "I have another question, master.
这个信徒说到,“我还有另外一个问题,大师。
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What would you have said
如果我没有听到山间小溪的声音,
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if I hadn't been able to hear that mountain stream?
您该如何应对?
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What would you have said then?"
您会怎么说?”
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Okay.
好的。
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Slight correction.
略微纠正一下。。。
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in how I told the story before I finish it.
在我说完这个故事之前稍微纠正一下。
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(audience laughing)
(观众的笑声)
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When the disciple originally says,
当时这个信徒的原话是这样的,
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"Yes, I can hear the mountain stream.
“是的,我能够听到山间小溪的声音。
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Yes, I can hear it."
是的,我能够听到它。”
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The master says, "Enter zen from there or from here.
大师说到,“从那里(这里)入禅。
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Enters zen from there, enter zen from here."
从那里入禅,从这里入禅。”
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In other words, that's the entry point into zen
换句话说,在此时此刻,那就是进入禅境的
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in this moment.
法门。
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And then hours later
一个小时后,
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when the disciple has been thinking again,
当这个信徒重新开始思考,
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they're walking again.
他们又上路了。
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"What would you have said if I'd said to you
“如果我说我无法听到山间小溪的声音,
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I can't hear the mountain stream?"
您会怎么回答?”
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What would you have said then?"
您会说什么?”
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The mind is weird.
心智很奇怪。
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It never stops ruminations.
它从来不会停止反复思考。
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And the master raised his finger and said,
这位大师竖起他的手指说到,
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"Enters zen from there, from here.
“从那里(这里)入禅。
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Every point is...
每个点都是。。。
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These things cannot be explained.
这些不能被解释,
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You spoil them if you explain them.
否则它们会被你糟蹋掉。
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I just explained it unfortunately.
糟糕的是我刚刚就是在解释。
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(audience laughing)
(观众的笑声)
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The mind that doesn't stop.
心智不会停止。
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You have the mind.
你拥有。。。
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Such a wonderful tool,
心智是一个很棒的工具,
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such a wonderful instrument for creation.
一个很棒的用于创造的工具。
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The ability to think
思考的能力和
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that's inseparable from the rising of language,
语言的出现是分不开的,
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related to use language
和语言的使用密不可分。
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and thinking is a kind of inner talk.
思考是一种无声的讲话。
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And it grew and grew
它越来越膨胀,
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and gradually, it took over.
渐渐地,它接管了一切。
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And so humans lost their connectedness with being,
所以在察觉到思考是无意识的之前,
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which before the realizing of thinking was unconscious
人类失去了他们和存在的连接。
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but they have felt that deep...
但是他们曾经感受到那个深层的。。。
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They did not live in a problem-making state of anxiety.
他们没有活在一个制造问题的焦虑状态。
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Or if there was fear, it was short-lived
或者如果感到恐惧,它只是存在很短的时间,
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because there was immediate danger, but there was no anxiety
因为只有即刻的危险,而没有焦虑,
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or fear generated by the thinking process
也没有由思考过程所产生的恐惧,
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because there was no thinking process.
因为不存在思考。
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There was no identities that were before the time
在纳西索斯(希腊神话人物)在水中
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that Narcissus saw his image in the pool of water
看到自己的样貌并痴迷于它之前,
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and became obsessed with it
不存在身份认同,
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that I talked about yesterday.
我昨天说过这些。
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The first selfie,
第一个自拍,
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the world's first selfie, me, that's me.
世上的第一个自拍。。。我,这是我。
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And then people began
然后人们开始产生
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to have a relationship with themselves.
和自己的关系。
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I hate myself.
我恨自己。
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I love myself.
我爱自己。
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Sometimes I hate myself and sometimes I love myself.
有时我恨自己,有时我爱自己。
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Hmm. (audience laughing)
唔。(观众的笑声)
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Loving yourself is certainly preferable
爱自己显然要比恨自己
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to hating yourself.
更合适。
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I would've recommend it, but it's not the last step.
我会这么建议,但是这不是终点。
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It's an intermediate step.
这只是中间步骤。
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Beyond loving yourself
超越爱自己
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is no longer having a relationship with yourself.
是指不再和自己存在关系。
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(Eckhart laughing)
(埃克哈特的笑声)
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I'm ending the relationship with myself.
我要结束和自己的关系。
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(audience laughing)
(观众的笑声)
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Goodbye. (audience laughing)
再见。(观众的笑声)
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This is it. (audience laughing)
到此为止了。(观众的笑声)
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So after loving yourself,
所以在爱自己之后,
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the next step is simply being yourself.
下一步就是简单地成为自己。
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Oh, then you neither, you don't hate yourself.
然后你既不恨自己(也不爱自己)。
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You can't really say I love myself
事实上你不能说爱自己,
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because the moment you say I love myself,
因为当你说爱自己时,
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you have created duality, I and myself.
你制造了二元对立,我和自己。
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So who is that self that you either love or hate?
那么谁是那个你爱或恨的自己?
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And who are you?
并且你是谁?
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(Eckhart laughing)
(埃克哈特的笑声)
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(water rushing)
(流水声)