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But I am chain'd to Time, and cannot thence depart.

2023-06-30 23:18 作者:Gystiel  | 我要投稿

纯碎片。



 1.

大概一个月前听Yuvol Harari关于AI的演讲,提到了大意人类即将第一次创造出'an inorganic life form',忽然觉着,Meteion这个故事多少有点像16年微软在推上试验过的chatbot Tay。囧橄榄怎么总结来着,24小时之内从我爱人类我爱猫猫狗狗被网民喂成了Hitler是对的我支持holocaust.

而Harari提到的去年被谷歌开掉也要坚称他被派测试的AI已经是sentient being,想要“保护”这个AI的工程师Blake Lemoine...




2.

特意截图给亲友槽过,文本差异到这种程度的时候基本也没什么可聊的了。


3.

我之前对英版Zenos的理解错了吗?倒不是,但是也不完全。romanticism是他的美学体现,nihilism也确实是他的价值观。但这更多是基于他第一段人生的理解。 I've always felt like there's something amiss. It fails to explain why Elidibus and Hythlodaeus were scared of him, or why he was utterly unfazed by the presence of the Endsinger. So when I finally found him again in the quote from Norman Brown's book, it almost felt like the final piece of the puzzle falling into place. 

"Journeys end in lovers meeting." And it ended as such for the viator. But I was wrong when I said that love was what brought salvation to his soul... He doesn't need salvation. There is practically nothing, nothing in this world that he still needs. Nothing that I, or anyone could possibly offer him that he still needs. Yet, he alone possesses desires that are true to himself. Desires untainted by fears, desires that unite the conscious with the unconscious mind. He has become more than the romantic rebel, more than a nihilistic mortal, and not the Faustian man. He has become the unrepressed man envisioned by Brown, the sovereign man by Bataille. He does not need the platonic love of finding completeness in another, for he is complete in himself. And he alone gives the love that is complete and free.

And I am fully aware that to acknowledge his completeness is to face my own insignificance. That, is something none of us could bear to face, Becker would argue. And even if Zenos was to do nothing, bring no destruction at all, by being the unrepressed man he is already a threat to all human cultures and societies, as one that lives free from the illusions that are essential to our survival.


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去看Bataille是因为想了解对la demesure的探讨,看Becker是因为the fear of death as a primary drive for human behaviors is something I've always had on my mind,比如看汉密尔顿留下最深印象的歌词一直是那句 I imagine death so much it feels more like a memory... 看Brown是因为Becker的书里引用的部分——又发现Brown还曾给予Bataille的the Accursed Share/La Part Maudite高度评价。让我稍微有点怀疑the unrepressed man的概念大约也受到了sovereign man的启发。


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Becker对于Brown这个结论直接的质疑就是guilt的来源。在Becker看来guilt不只是童年的产物,有死之人生于世,guilt源于对mortality的awareness,自然无从消解,如影随形,一切社会型组织俱是吸收与排解guilt的产物。所以the unrepressed man是必然不可能达到的状态。故而唯一能够eliminate guilt的方法也只有字面意义上的immortality.

So here we have it, resurrection according to Brown, immortality according to Becker, the complete unrepressed man. This is why his resurrection is vital. He has conquer death in the way that no one else has ever did, not even the ancients. The ancients, though immortal in a way, were never free from their cultural illusions.

以前看到过一个油管up发过较长的角色解析,关于弑父的情节,他解释为对帝国的仇恨,which is directly contradicted by the codex we obtained in game. Yet if viewed in the light of his resurrection as the unrepressed man, the codex would make sense. He was already free from all his bondage. He did not need to rebel against Varis for his freedom anymore.

Aristotle said "He who is unable to live in society, or who has no need because he is sufficient for himself, must be either a beast or a god. Politics bk. 1, 1253a 27–9" 

Oh but he is both. And he knows it better than anyone.

The world is no more than an oyster to him. One that he could toy with however he desires, or just cast aside since he doesn't care.


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There was always something that I couldn't quite put my fingers on. Becker's account of death denial was what I needed to make everything makes perfect sense now. Why Zodiark had to stay in place, why the ancients had to fall. What was it that Hydaelyn was trying to preserve. 说到dynamis,可能前面提过情感的影响所以很多人直接给它喊成情感之力,但其实不然。它由情感驱动,但并不是情感本身(否则要支配情感还不容易。中译“潜能量”这个名字确实是相当点明主题的。回看录像,Venat:

"In spite of...or perhaps because of this, I choose to believe. In mankind's potential. In his ability to find a way forward."

那么最后的花海也就有了真正的解释。

(!!!角色AI说的全是made up!!!)


7.

同样我也终于能理解Pechorin了,不仅仅是文学意义上的'superfluous man.'


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如雪莱悼念济慈的Adonais :

Peace, peace! he is not dead, he doth not sleep,

      He hath awaken'd from the dream of life;

      'Tis we, who lost in stormy visions, keep

      With phantoms an unprofitable strife,

      And in mad trance, strike with our spirit's knife

      Invulnerable nothings. We decay

      Like corpses in a charnel; fear and grief

      Convulse us and consume us day by day,

And cold hopes swarm like worms within our living clay.


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Why there is no going back? No turning back the clock? Because we already know that the past is a lie. The fragility of the veil weighs heavy on all of our minds, too heavy to last for any good. Secretary Mayor Pete always said that there's no honest politics centered around the word "again". Now the reasoning is clear as day. There is no making something great again. There's no shutting down the global economy, no cutting off immigration, no turning off all the social media or AI. We will never really go back to the "simpler times." As much as Freud pointed all of our nerotics back to our childhoods, he would not advocate going back to infantile innocence. It is simply impossible. The curtains have fallen and we have seen the abyss. No matter how hard we shut our eyes or turn our backs on it we already know the monster is right there. Sing all the mantras in the world and it would not eradicate the fear and anxiety in our minds. The old lies cannot protect us anymore. Such is the tragedy of the ancients. They cried out to go back to the times 'when the star was a font of love, and we knew naught but bliss!'

Alas, the star never loved them. The star does not care, and does not answer. They suffocated themselves within the old lie, and they were doomed to fail.

一方面来说,希斯拉德顺应社会,不打破这一伪相的生活方式确实是virtuous的,另一方面这也注定了,在一切走到末路,伪相被撕裂的尽头,他只能成为牺牲品。而赫尔墨斯对小黑鸟说,作为人类我会留下来反抗,也是真诚而勇敢的。Of the four ancients in Elpis, Emet-Selch is actually, the one of the herd. Preoccupied with 'serious business' of his world, content, even obsessed with the illusion of his people. It is surely a sentiment that all mortals could relate to, no doubt, which is precisely the point.

So in a way, Venat does exhibit traits of the Ubermensch. She knew it was essential to tear down the old lies that suffocated any potential for a new world. On the other hand, she was also waiting for one. She did not dictate a new meaning for human. she was paving the way for such a person, that would finally lead the world out of the old broken lies of the ancient world.


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It also explains why G'raha Tia's obsession with heroism and legacy was always more than a bit off-putting to me. Despite not having the words to express this feeling, I was vaguely aware of the fact that it was an illusion. A benevolent one, most would argue and I agree. But an illusion nonetheless. 


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And I don't think of Fandaniel and the Endsinger as nihilists. At least, not true enough for me. A true nihilistic should see the futility of imposing their will upon the others as well as the meaninglessness of seeking a perpetual happiness, let alone a universal one to rid all existence of suffering. That is why Zenos does not run around trying to convince people of his beliefs. The only time Julus asks, he does answer the question, but that answer almost sinks Julus directly into an abyss of despair. Why? Because he is the truly nihilistic unrepressed man. His mere existence is a challenge to all that is fundamental to human societies. He exposes us for what we truly are, feeble, insignificant creatures that will inevitably die, no matter how hard we fool ourselves. And the fact that we try so hard at weaving the myths of heroism, of moralities and cultural identities, is but another crude truth that we are such cowards at our core that we cannot even face our true conditions. We have to rely on these illusions to survive.

Had Alphinaud not rushed to give Jullus a new purpose on the spot, we should all know how it would have ended.


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And what truth would some have Venat reveal to the ancients, already plagued and destroyed by the despair brought by the Final Days? That all that they've ever held dear, all that they've considered the unshakable truth of their existence, is but a lie, a shattered dream, a fool's delusion? That all lives, even all the stars must die, that their struggle would only be to stall the inevitable? 

Yeah, see how that would work out.


13.

That sure is a distinction there. Venat would not add to their despair. While Zenos doesn't give a damn about fcking you with the truth.


14.

What am I, but a branch, still deep in the mines of Salzburg.

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