【龙腾网】世界上有哪些鲜为人知的古代“奇观”
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Lesser Known Ancient "Wonders" of the World
世界上鲜为人知的古代“奇观”
So everyone knows about Stonehenge, the Great Pyramids, the Colossus of Rhodes, the Hanging Gardens of Babylon, the Lighthouse (and of course) the Library of Alexandria, the Colosseum and Circus Maximus of Rome, and the Great Wall of China. But what are some other important but less discussed architectural achievements of the ancient and classical world?
每个人都知道巨石阵、大金字塔、罗得岛、巴比伦空中花园、灯塔（当然还有）亚历山大图书馆、罗马竞技场和罗马圆形大剧场以及中国长城。但是，古代和古典世界的一些其他一样重要但较少讨论的建筑成就有哪些？
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[dexed]
In term of economic impact or total size: China's Grand Canal.
就经济影响或总规模而言：中国大运河。
（京杭大运河）
[dexed]
Didn’t it kill a shitload of peasants?
它不是导致了很多农民的死亡吗？
Keighlon
The grand canal system is absolutely astonishing. While europe was still chucking sticks at each other and living in huts china was building country wide water highways. The manpower forethought and organization of it blows my mind
大运河系统绝对是惊人的。当欧洲还在互相残杀，住在茅屋里的时候，中国正在建设全国范围的水上公路。他对人力的筹划和阻织度让我大吃一惊。
deezee72
The Grand Canal is an amazing demonstration of China's organization, but let's not get too carried away. It was built at the end of the 6th century - I don't think it's too fair to say that Europe was "chucking sticks at each other and living in huts".
大运河是中国组织度的一个惊人的展示，但我们不要太激动。 它建于6世纪末——我不认为说欧洲“还在互相残杀，住在茅屋里”是一个公平的说法。
Sn_rk
Not really, no. Roman concepts of administration and infrastructure were being maintained for a long time, even if they slowly eroded.
并非如此，真的。罗马的行政管理和基础设施概念在欧洲被维持了很长一段时间，即使它们慢慢地被侵蚀。
Intranetusa
On a similar note, the Qin State's Fish Mouth Levee irrigation and flood control system in use to this day: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dujiangyan
类似地，秦国的河口灌溉和防洪系统至今仍在使用：https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dujiangyan（都江堰的维基百科）
knavillus
The wonder that always amazes me is the Roman road system, including bridges. The number of bridges still standing and in use today was surprising to me and the scale of the road system at its peak was impressive.
令我惊讶的是罗马的道路系统，包括桥梁。今天仍然矗立和使用的来自罗马时代的桥梁数量令我感到惊讶，公路系统在高峰时的规模令人印象深刻。
（古罗马桥梁）
Qafqa
Don't forget the aqueducts.
别忘了引水渠
（罗马引水渠）
recuise
Yeah, but what have the Romans ever done for us?
是啊，但是罗马人为我们做了什么？
ecknorr
Could not have the Superbowl without Roman numerals.
没有罗马数字就不可能有超级碗。
knavillus
I don’t think they thought in these terms though, structural and materials analysis that can predict longevity of a structure just didn’t exist back then. I’m guessing the primary motivation by the designer was to ensure it didn’t fail at any cost. I hadn’t really thought of it in those terms though, it’s really funny!
我不认为他们用这些方式来思考，但是，能够预测结构寿命的结构和材料分析在当时不存在。 我猜设计师的主要动机是确保它不会以倒。不过，我从来没有以这种角度想过，这真的很有趣！
SantasBananas
Yeah, that's exactly my point - they made the bridges with such longevity because they didn't have the engineering confidence to not.
Still massively impressive structures, obviously. I'm just always a little ticked when people say they were able to build structures we can't anymore, or some other nonsense.
是的，这正是我的观点-他们建造了如此长寿的桥梁，是因为他们没有工程信心。
当然，这还是令人印象深刻的结构。当人们说古人能建造我们现代无法再建造的结构，或者其他类似的一些废话时，我总是有点生气。
idan_zamir
Gobekli Tepe definitely counts in my book. It is around 12,000 years old! An incredible a achivement for the time.
哥贝克力石阵在我的这里肯定很重要。它大约有12000岁了！这是一个不可思议的成就。
（哥贝克力石阵）
Andrewescocia
yuppers needs more exposure, if i was of a conspiratorial mind i would say the history of it is being repressed so they don't have to rip up all the text books and start again,
对哒，它需要更多的曝光，如果我是一个阴谋论者，我会说，它的历史正在故意被压制，这样他们就不必撕毁现在所有的教科书，重新编过。
Andrewescocia
That'll confuse the hell out of archaeologists from 4000 AD.
I'm sure they will think we all worshipped a god called "Starbucks" anyway.
"Any town of import would have a shrine dedicated to Starbucks, worship was done by consuming a psychoactive beverage and the shrines where believed to stimulate trade and discourse"
“于是公元4000年开始的考古学家们就会搞糊涂”
我相信他们会认为我们都崇拜一个叫“星巴克”的神。
“任何重要的小镇都会有一个专门为星巴克服务的神社，崇拜是通过饮用一种精神饮料和那些被认为能刺激贸易和言论的神社来完成的”
torn-ainbow
The Budj Bim eel traps. Aboriginal people changed the landscape around an exctinct volcano, carving channels and creating dams to create an ancient aquaculture system that provided them food all year round.
The eel traps at Budj Bim comprise a vast network of weirs, dams and stone canals to manipulate water levels in various lake basins. Some of the channels are hundreds of metres long and were dug out of basalt lava flow.
These structures force eels and other aquatic life into traps as water levels rise and fall. The canals also appear to have been used to create holding ponds to keep eels fresh until they were needed for food. Not only did this provide the region’s Gunditjmara people with a year-round food supply, it was also important for trade.
Located in southwest Victoria, Budj Bim has been carbon dated to 6600 years old, meaning it predates more internationally well-known examples of ancient engineering like the Egyptian pyramids or Stonehenge.
我认为是布吉必姆鳗鱼陷阱，土著人改变了一座火山周围的景观，雕刻了通道，建造了水坝，以建立一个古老的水产养殖系统，全年为他们提供食物。
“布吉必姆的鳗鱼陷阱包括一个巨大的堰、水坝和石渠网络，以操纵各种湖泊盆地的水位。 其中一些通道有数百米长，是从玄武岩熔岩流中挖出来的。
随着水位的上升和下降，这些结构迫使鳗鱼和其他水生生物进入陷阱。这些通道似乎也被用来建造池塘，以保持鳗鱼的新鲜，直到他们需要食物。这不仅为该地区的贡第杰马若人提供了全年的粮食供应，而且对贸易也很重要。
布吉必姆位于维多利亚西南部，它的碳龄已达6600年，这意味着它早于更多国际知名的古代工程例子，如埃及金字塔或巨石阵。”
（布吉必姆的鳗鱼陷阱）
laszlo92
The irrigation systems by the Khmer around Angkor Wat are simply astounding. In a quite rough and unhospitable environment creating a place with that sort of irrigation supporting a complex society is a wonder.
吴哥窟周围的高棉人的灌溉系统简直令人震惊。在一个相当粗糙和不适宜居住的环境中，创造一个有这种灌溉系统支持复杂社会的地方是一个奇迹。
DarthRevan456
Aren't those medi though?
不过这不是中世纪的吗？
DarthRevan456
Angkor is pretty amazing though
不过，吴哥窟真的很神奇
（卡尔纳克巨石遗迹）
joftheholly
Newgrange passage tomb in Ireland- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newgrange
The sun lights up the inner chamber on the shortest day of the year showing impressive knowledge for a structure built 3200 BC in Ireland
爱尔兰的纽格兰奇长廊式墓室-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newgrange
太阳会在一年中最短的一天照亮内室，这个爱尔兰公元前3200年建造的一个结构展现了当时的人们令人印象深刻的知识
（纽格兰奇长廊式墓室）
[dexed]
I would say the Moai on Easter Island. There are about a thousand of them, they weigh more than 10 tons on average. Because of the European invasion in the second half of the 19th century, almost nothing is known about the symbolism of these statues or how the Rapa Nui transported and erected them.
我想说的是复活节岛上的石像。它们大约有一千个，平均重量超过10吨。
由于19世纪下半叶的欧洲入侵，几乎没有人知道这些雕像的象征意义或拉帕努伊岛人是如何运输和竖立它们的。
（复活节岛石像）
boy_wolf
Some archaeologists recently made a pretty reasonable assertion the Maoi were used as markers for farms & fresh water sources. The commonly held theory about their transportation is that Rapa Nui was once forested, but deforested in the process of rolling the giant stones around on logs.
一些考古学家最近做出了一个相当合理的断言，这些石像被用作农场和淡水来源的标记。 关于他们运输的普遍理论是，拉帕努伊岛曾经是森林，但为了用来滚动巨大的石头在这个过程中被砍伐完了。
CommandoDude
how the Rapa Nui transported and erected them.
Actually that's pretty well known, they were transported using trees (why the Island is now deforested).
“拉帕努伊人是如何运输和竖立它们的。”
事实上，这是众所周知的，他们是用树木运输的（这就是为什么这个岛现在是光秃秃的）。
[dexed]
Almost nothing is known for sure, I would say (no written or orally transmitted testimonies). Some research was done and I think the use of trees is the most probable hypothesis indeed. But I'll look into it again, see if no one disputes that anymore. That's a good point you made in any case
我想说，几乎没有什么是可以确定的（没有书面或口头转达的证词）。一些研究已经完成，我认为使用树木确实是最可能的假设。但我会再查一遍，看看有没有人再对此有异议。不管怎样，你说的观点很好。
CommandoDude
The soil erosion on the island basically confirms there used to be trees.
岛上的土壤侵蚀基本上证实了曾经有树木。
