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Legality of corporal punishment of minors in Europe

欧洲体罚未成年人的合法性分布图
绿色：在家庭和学校都禁止对未成年人体罚
黄色：只禁止在学校对未成年人进行体罚
红色：在家庭和学校都不禁止对未成年人的体罚

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评论翻译

tod315

Italy / UK（意大利/英国）

If Italy were green jails would be full of nonnas.

如果意大利是绿色的，那监狱里已经关满了（容嬷嬷式的）老奶奶

lniko2
And a whole country would starve

然后整个国家都会饿死

S7ormstalker

Lombardy（伦巴第）

And the evidence rooms full of slippers.

并且物证室里塞满了拖鞋

personangrebet

Denmark（丹麦）

simovenx

Italy（意大利）

i dunno if it was a long ago but i remember hearing about this and wishing it was the same here.

我不知道是否是很久以前的事情，但我记得我听到过这个，并且希望我们这里能和你们一样。

kawaiibutpsycho

Turkey（土耳其）

I've met lots of Italians through EVS and I was quite surprised to find out they have been beaten by their parents (one with a belt) and they even found it normal, saying they were behaving really bad and deserved it. I was very surprised. (And another Portugese friend of mine said he would lightly hit his kid if he behaved in a very spoiled way in public, although I'm not sure if he would actually do it when he becomes a dad)

我通过EVS认识了很多意大利人，我惊讶地发现他们都被父母打过（有一个是用皮带打的），他们甚至觉得这很正常，说自己的行为很不好，该打。我当时非常惊讶。(而我的另一个葡萄牙朋友说，如果他以后的孩子在公共场合表现得非常骄纵，他会轻轻地打他的孩子，虽然我不知道他当了爸爸后是否真的会这么做)

OdioIlMioNickname
I'm 44. My mother used to beat me in the typical italian nonna way, my father never touched me but used words. Words cut deeper than beating.

我今年44岁。我母亲经常用典型的意大利奶的方式打我，我父亲从不打我，而是用语言。言语比殴打更深刻。

LimfjordOysters
who thinks that beating a child is a good idea
You should try r/AskAmerican. They will proudly defend the right of American parents to beat up their child.

“谁认为打孩子是个好主意”
你应该试着问问美国人。他们将自豪地捍卫美国父母殴打孩子的权利。

MakeMathNotWar89
Well, I was talking about my experience as italian

我说的是我在意大利的经历

Maultaschenman

Dublin（都柏林）

Wish someone told my parents.

希望有人告诉我父母（体罚是违法的）。

BeepBeepYaGoose
Yeah, nobody told Spain.

是啊，西班牙好像也没人管。

AidenTai

Spain（西班牙）

RyanRagido
I'm as liberal as they come but I'm 100% okay with ther government going after people who hit their kids. Children have human rights and in this case they get hurt by someone they are completely depending on. It's psychologicaly damaging to the kids and in a way damaging to society, too.

我是自由主义者，但我100％同意政府去追捕那些打孩子的人。孩子们也有人权，在这种情况下，当他们受到来自他们完全依赖的人的伤害。这对孩子的心理伤害很大，对社会也有一定的伤害。

brazzy42

Germany（德国）

I don't think it's the government's job to say a mother should be fined or whatever for smacking her son when he's misbehaved.
That is exactly the job of the government: to protect those who cannot protect themselves.
When you hit an adult, it's assault, but when a completely helpless child is hit the the people he or she is completely dependant on that's supposed to be OK? How fucked up in the head do you have to be to think that?

“我不认为政府的工作是说一个母亲在儿子行为不端时打他一巴掌就应该被罚款或之类的。”
这正是政府的工作：保护那些不能保护自己的人。
当你打一个成年人，这是攻击，但当一个完全无助的孩子被他或她完全依赖的人打了，这能忍？你得有多大的心才会这么想？

nayoz_
there has to be a smarter, wiser way to educate children...

但是有更聪明、更明智的方式来教育孩子......

AidenTai
Spain
Probably, and I don't plan on using corporal punishment with my kids. I just don't think that for something like this (especially since the trend of avoiding this punishment is relatively recent) the government should be stepping in banning things outright and imposing fines, imprisonment, etc.

可能吧，我也不打算对我的孩子使用体罚。我只是觉得，对于这样的事情（尤其是这种避免体罚的趋势是比较近的东西），政府不应该出面直接禁止，并处以罚款、监禁等。

Benderillo
Have you ever tried turning off the TV, sitting down with your children and beating them?..

难道你们从来没有试过关掉电视，和你的孩子坐下来然后揍他们一顿吗？......

Zendarian_Monk
Europe
No need to turn off the tv to do that

不需要关掉电视

Dragonaax

Silesia + Toruń (Poland)（波兰）

Yea I totally wasn't beaten with belt

我完全没被皮带抽过

Fil_19

Italy（意大利）

My mom once broke a wooden spoon on my brother's butt

我妈曾经打我哥的屁股打断了一个木勺

ubiosamse2put

Croatia（克罗地亚）

Mine too! We all started to laugh when happened because it was first hit. shitty spoon.

我也是！木勺断掉的时候我们都忍不住笑了，因为这才是第一下。真糟糕的勺子。

SlapOnTitan
You have shitty spoons in Italy.

看来意大利木勺子的质量不怎么样

DonKihotec

Ukraine | Switzerland（乌克兰|瑞士）

I was never beaten. I "just" had to spend multiple hours in the corner, on my knees, on buckwheat.
My parents believed that physical punishment is unpedagogical.

我从来没有被打过。我"只是"不得不在角落里，跪在荞麦上度过一段时间。
我的父母认为，体罚是没有教育意义的。

Dragonaax
Silesia + Toruń (Poland)
I mean I wasn't beaten to the point I couldn't sit or there was any physical harm, nothing that could be called abuse but if physical punishment is legal then some people would say their abuse is just punishment

我的意思是，我没有被打到坐不下凳子的地步，或造成过任何身体上的伤害，没有任何可以被称为虐待的东西，但如果体罚是合法的，那么有些人会把他们的虐待说成是只是惩罚而已。

shizzmynizz
EU
What's corporal punishment ?

什么是体罚？

Hootrb
Cypriot in Germany
Assaulting minors because people think they have the right to do so just because the child is theirs.

殴打未成年人，只是因为孩子是他们的人们就认为他们有权这样做。

OiCleanShirt
Punishing with violence.

使用暴力惩罚。

[dexed]
Physically harming kids

身体伤害孩子

Sankullo
It’s when your ma gives you a slap on the arse for misbehaving.

你妈因为你行为不端而给你一巴掌。

Honest-Option

United Kingdom（英国）

That's just child abuse.

那是虐待儿童。

brazzy42
Germany
So is "corporal punishment".

“体罚”也是如此。

Honest-Option
United Kingdom
Not really.
My mum would give me a slap, I wouldn't consider that child abuse.

不同意。
我妈妈会给我一巴掌，但我不会认为这是虐待儿童。

Honest-Option
United Kingdom
That's because I did deserve it.

那是因为我确实活该。

menishkai
I’m surprised about Lithuania - for me and other children it was normal to be threatened with a belt for misbehaving. Some teachers even encouraged it, but that was 10 years ago so I’m not sure now

我对立陶宛感到惊讶-对我和其他孩子来说，被皮带威胁是正常的行为。有些老师甚至鼓励这样做，但那是10年前的事了，所以我现在不确定。

iuris_peritus
Interesting that the Vatican is greyed out as if none of them had any children ...

有趣的是梵蒂冈是灰色的好像他们都没有孩子似的......

nerkuras
Lithuania
as far as we know...

据我们所知......

iuris_peritus
I am sure they wouldnt obxt to a little beating...

我相信他们不会反对进行“一点”殴打的......

GoodWorkRoof
Wales
If you can get a young boy pregnant by doing him up the arse then the Lord truly has blessed you.

如果你能通过弄（doing up）一个小男孩的屁股让他怀孕，那么上帝真的祝福了你。

PeterFriedrichLudwig
The officers of the Swiss Guard are allowed to marry and have children.

瑞士卫队的军官可以结婚生子。

PengwinOnShroom
Red countries are all outside of Europe ¯\\\\\\\\_(ツ)_/¯
红色国家都在欧洲以外¯\\\\\\\\_(ツ)_/¯
mrmniks
Belarus
That’s weird. I’ve never heard of anything like that in Belarus. Nobody ever touched a kid in school in my experience, don’t know about the law though.

很奇怪。我在白俄罗斯从来没有听说过这样的事情。在我的经验里，从来没有人在学校里碰过孩子，虽然不知道法律是怎么规定的。

slendermaster
I was never touched in school (didnt grow up in belarus), but my mom remembers getting slapped on the fingers with Rulers.

我在学校里从来没有被碰过(不是在白俄罗斯长大)，但我记得妈妈用尺子拍打手指。

GreenTeaPls92
Turkey
This made me sad because both my parents and school teachers beat the shit out of me.
Teachers fav weapon: Ruler,chalk,notepad
Parents favorite weapon: Broom,slipper,rolling pin,backhand

这让我很难过，因为我的父母和学校老师都把我打得屁滚尿流。
老师最爱的武器：尺子，粉笔，记事本
父母最喜欢的武器：扫帚，拖鞋，擀面杖，反手

kawaiibutpsycho
Turkey
I'm very sorry you had to go through that. I've never been beaten by anyone, but I grew up in Mersin. Currently I'm a teacher in a village in Istanbul (not even in Istanbul, quite far from the center) and I have some students who are beaten by their parents, I've talked to one of the parents and it seemed to work, and we had a teacher who were using violence but we reported him. Parents and children these days are more aware of their rights thankfully.

我很抱歉你不得不经历这些。我从来没有被人打过，但我是在梅尔辛长大的。目前我在伊斯坦布尔的一个村子里当老师（甚至不在伊斯坦布尔，离中心挺远的），我有一些学生被家长打，我和其中一个家长谈过，似乎起了作用，我们有一个老师使用暴力，但我们举报了他。很高兴的是现在的家长和孩子都比较注意自己的权利了。

diquee
European unx
It's really heartbreaking that not every country on this map is green.

让人心碎的是，这张地图上不是每个国家都是绿色的。

jonasnee
Belgium and england wtf.

比利时和英国是什么情况。

thekremlinbot
This is a trivial law in most of the green countries. They might as well mostly be yellow. Spain, Italy, Scotland, Portugal, Eastern Europe etc all do some good beating to get those kids in line.

大多数绿色国家都只是实行了一些微不足道的小法规。他们可能大部分其实都属于黄色的。西班牙、意大利、苏格兰、葡萄牙、东欧等国都会为一些小事而体罚孩子。

volchonok1
Estonia
What's up with England? Why are they different from the rest of the UK?

英格兰怎么了？为什么他们和英国其他地方不同？

volchonok1
Estonia
50% ! Woah, it's crazy that half the population thinks beating kids is ok...

50%！哇，有一半的人认为打孩子是可以接受的......

buckshot95
Canada
Corporal punishment doesn't necessarily mean beating kids. There is obviously a difference beating a light swat and an actual beating.

体罚并不一定意味着殴打孩子。轻拍和殴打有明显区别。

Iron-clover
England
I thought it was effectively banned here in England. If you leave a mark (even just reddened skin, not necessarily a bruise) then you've broken the law in my understanding. I remember the fuss certain newspapers kicked up when it came in years ago.

我以为这在英国已经被有效地禁止了。如果你留下了印记（哪怕只是皮肤发红，不一定是瘀伤），那么在我的理解中，你就已经触犯了法律。我还记得几年前，当这种事情被某些报纸报道时是如何掀起了轩然大波的。