亲爱的心友们，大家好，我是超高校级的心理委员。

在之前《弹丸论破中的希望和绝望是什么？》的视频和专栏里  ，我通过狛枝和盾子这两大弹丸圈内公认的“教主”，来分析了一下，弹丸论破中希望和绝望的引申义，以及他们给社会带来了什么，反映了什么样的社会思想。

然而，上一期友小伙伴反馈：狛枝凪斗似乎不能代表希望阵营的整体意志。

换言之，教主一词，更多是一种戏称与代指，并不意味着他的思想精神，能够代表所有人对希望的理解。

仔细回想，确实如此，苗木诚、七海千秋与狛枝凪斗对希望的观念，可以说是截然不同的。这种差异，让他们与狛枝之间，形成了明显的对立感。其中最为明显的，莫过于苗木诚与狛枝凪斗的价值观差异了。

本期，我将从价值观层面与MBTI荣格八维，以及一点点九型人格的角度，来系统地探讨一下狛枝与苗木对希望理解上的差异。

本位不同

苗木诚与狛枝凪斗的希望观差异，基本上都可以在“本位”这个概念上找出来。

何为本位，大家可以理解为“以什么为根本”或“以什么为基本遵循”。当世界以黄金这一贵金属作为本位货币时，黄金将作为衡量纸币、其他钱币购买力的根本，我们称其为“金本位（Gold Standard）”。

而在“人的希望”这一主题上，狛枝与苗木的分歧点，大多是集中在何为本位上。也就是说，狛枝是以抽象的希望为本位的，而苗木，是以具体的人为本位的。以此为结论，我们可以解释他们许多行为上的分歧。

狛枝凪斗追求着人的希望，但他对希望本身的优先级要高于人。在他眼中的人们是高度抽象的概念，或者说，抛开“希望”和“绝望”这些高度抽象的概念以外，其他的部分已经不重要了。因此，为了让希望成长，为了让希望战胜绝望，他会选择通过煽风点火，来牺牲人的生命，以实现希望。

而究竟什么代表着希望呢，如何判断一个人是否是希望的象征呢？

一个抽象概念的诠释，往往需要另一个没那么抽象的概念。于是，教主在对人类社会的洞察中发现了“才能”与“希望”之间的强关联。于是，这成为了才能象征希望这一推论的一个逻辑前提。

苗木诚支持着人的希望，但最终的落脚点是人，而不是希望。对于苗木而言，希望并不是一种高度抽象与凝练的概念，而是蕴含在人身上的。换言之，有人就有希望，或者说，有人才有希望。必须用尽一切办法去把人保住，把生命保住。

于是我们可以看到当盾子说自己要给自己处刑时，苗木诚本能性地产生了阻止盾子寻死的念头。而在未来机关下令要杀死二代众这些个绝望残党的时候，苗木诚也是执意要包庇他们，还要偷偷送去做思想改造。

无论在什么时候，苗木的观念一直是“以人为本”和“人命关天”的，在希望和人之间，苗木想必会坚定不移地选择“人”。而狛枝凪斗则用他的所作所为告诉我们，他会坚定不移地选择“希望”，即便牺牲人命。

至此，我们便理解了两者希望的主要异同：

他们的相同点在于，都在追求希望，也都有帮助他人实现希望的倾向，也存在一定的成为希望的潜质与意愿。在不同点在于，一个把人看得大于希望，一个把希望看得大于人。

只是，仅仅得出这个结论，似乎也有些太浅了。只知其然，而不知其所以然，似乎并不能完成我们“人物分析”的这一目标。

因此，接下来，我将从MBTI荣格八维和九型人格，这两个人格类型理论工具，来系统地分析，他们理念差异的成因。

荣格八维分析

在往期的弹丸论破人物分析中，我们有系统地分析过苗木诚与狛枝凪斗的MBTI，分别是ENFJ教育家和INFJ引路人。

（考虑到有许多人并不认可这一结果，我会在文末引用一段解析，大家可以自行讨论）

考虑到并不是所有人都对荣格八维有较为深入的了解，本期只讨论他们的前两个功能，也就是Fe（外倾情感丨Extrovert Feeling）和Ni（内倾直觉丨Introverted Intuition）。

Fe常常与关注他人情感需求，把握人际关系与氛围相关联。而Ni则常常与洞察事物本质与趋势，把握抽象概念相联系（这里简单讲讲，详细版会放在文末）。

在荣格八维的理论模型中，苗木诚的功能序列是ENFJ，这套函数是以Fe为主导功能，Ni为第二功能，也就是辅助功能的。

一个人的主导功能，常常反映其核心追求。而辅助功能，则通常是充当工具人，以满足第一功能的追求的。

也就是说，苗木诚最为核心的追求，更倾向于他人的需求，群体视角下大家的情感倾向（Fe主导）。而他的第二功能Ni（内倾直觉），更多的是作为一个满足Fe需求的工具，用以洞察他人的想法，以及看到他人身上的潜质。

就算是面对绝望残党和没有才能的普通人，苗木显然也能从他们身上看到闪光点与潜质，不愿意放弃他们，而是试图将他们引上正途。

而狛枝凪斗的功能序列是INFJ，是以Ni为主导，Fe为辅助的。

因此，狛枝凪斗最为核心的追求，是把握人与社会的发展趋势，同时最大限度地抽象出其中的本质概念，用以强化自己对世界的认知（Ni）。

因此，我们常常会看到狛枝会对事态未来的发展作出预测，疑似偷看剧本。也常常说着一些大家听不懂的抽象概念，并认为那是接近本质的抽象。

值得一提的是，Ni作为感知功能，是不带任何价值观和逻辑理性色彩，它只是一种感受方式，就像你用眼睛看，用耳朵听，用手触摸来感受世界一样的道理。

Fe作为辅助功能，常常被狛枝用作“实现希望”的工具。例如用情感话术煽动大家，蛊兮兮地勾出厨师心中的杀人欲望，同时与大家敌对时，用各种心理战去诱导大家往错误的方向渐行渐远，以此完成他极为复杂的案件设置。

由此，我们可以看出，人与希望的优先级，也许能用荣格八维来进行一定的解释。

在苗木诚的心中，Fe代表的是核心追求，Ni仅仅是辅助。换成弹丸世界观下的语境，便是，人最重要，希望只是辅助人向好的精神力量（工具），本质上还是要保人。

在狛枝凪斗的心中，Ni代表的是核心追求，Fe仅仅是辅助。换成弹丸世界观下的语境，便是，世界朝着希望的方向发展最重要，人只是希望的载体，本质上，世界是希望的成长史。

然而，许多MBTI爱好者会认为，比起其他的ENFJ，苗木诚似乎特点并不鲜明，没有其他ENFJ那种特别明显的小太阳特质，也不像他们那样本能性地领导团体（如赤松枫、舞园沙耶香和灶门炭治郎）。

此外，比起其他的INFJ，狛枝凪斗似乎过于在意自己的内心感受，并无时无刻不将其以一种反常的形式表达出来，甚至让人有了狛枝是Fi阳面的感觉，并不像其他INFJ那样有沉稳、含蓄的外在表现（普奇神父、艾莎和真宫寺是清）。

这里，我们引入九型人格，来进行讨论。

九型人格分析

苗木诚的九型人格更倾向于被认为是9w1，跟心委的九型一样。

9号人格也被称为和平型或和平主义者，会优先考虑维护大家的和平氛围，尽量避免冲突。这可以解释为什么苗木会在十神和大和田快打起来的时候，跑去劝架（虽然自己被打晕了）。

在这一内心本能下，9号人格有时会为了较为和平与舒适的氛围，而刻意不彰显自己的个性，从而减少纠纷。这也可以解释为什么苗木诚的个性并不外显，并以此为自己的特点（“我就一普通高中生”）。

1号人格被称为完美型，9w1的意思，是核心人格为9，外在表现为1。

9w1会通过尽力把事情做好，来维护大家的和平。相比9w8的叶隐康比吕，9w1的苗木诚会更多地表现出认真与严谨的态度，全力以赴且尽职尽责地应对接下来面临的一切，给人十分靠谱的感觉。

的九型人格倾向于被认为是4w3。

4号人格被称为自我型或浪漫型、艺术型，会聚焦于对自身情感与自我的观察，健康的第四型是自我反省的、自觉的，不断“寻找自我”，和感觉与内在冲力有密切连系。对自己和对他人都很敏感、直觉。他们会自我表现，很有个性，个人主义。

狛枝凪斗会本能性地探索最深层的自我，挖掘自己内心的渴望，并将其以一种十分艺术化、戏剧化的方式去表达出来，但因为这些情感表达过于个人化，很多时候会让人感到不解。

3号人格被称为成就型，也有称成功型，表演型。比起自闭到底的4w5，4w3们更倾向于投身于外界事物与人际关系，通过自己的努力，去实现4号对自我内心情感的追求。狛枝内心渴望见证希望，因此，他想要通过自己对人和事的把握，通过自己动手推动，来实现这个成就。

结语

本期分析内容就到此结束了，干货有点多，要考虑到大家的接受度，写得还蛮辛苦的。专栏赚的不多，希望大家多多支持┭┮﹏┭┮

因为会有很多好奇宝宝来问问题，所以这里把Fe和Ni的详细诠释，以及一些对这两个人物的分析资料放在后面了，需要的话可以自行观看喔~

Fe和Ni详解

Fe是一种判断功能，常常是关系导向的，倾向于把握外部世界的人际关系（例如，他人的情感/需求，群体的意志与氛围等），以此指导自己的行为。

发展较好的Fe使用者，会很好的把握他人的情绪，以较为舒适的社交礼仪去照顾到他人的需求与感受，给人如沐春风的感觉。

Ni是一种感知功能，常常关注事物的发展趋势和本质，追求对事物未来趋势的把握。在此驱动下，常常会有希望把握“全知”视角的一面。

发展较好的Ni使用者，会看穿许多人或事的发展方向，并对结果作出一个预测。经过良好的训练，Ni使用者会有极强的洞察力，给人一种偷看剧本的感觉。

外网PDB上的人物分析

苗木诚：

ENFJ totally. His FE is highly developed, in fact in the series we can see that he can easily understand people's feelings and often it seems that he hardly cares about himself. His NI is developed but not dominant, it is based a lot on his intuition that is sometimes good and sometimes bad, he grasps the patterns very well thanks to his tertiary SE that goes to play with the NI. As for the tritype I don't think it's 926, but 927, by the guys the 6 isn't really like him. The most optimistic guy in the world, I've hardly ever seen him worried, and he doesn't pay much attention to his insecurities. One of my favorite characters, well done and different from many others.

狛枝凪斗：

Komaeda may seem like he values Hope through Fi, but he actually perceives everything through the lens of Hope. The synthesis of all perceived objects into one solid subjective perspective is Ni, not Fi. Contrary to Ne, which diverges from one single abstract point, Ni takes many points and connects them to a single meaningful point. In other words, everything Komaeda sees and experiences connects to this one point: Hope. It is easy to confuse, since Ni and Fi are both connotative functions. Rather than an individualistic, contextual Fi/Te judgement, Komaeda employs a collective, universal Fe/Ti judgement. Talent is the main judgement he enforces, insisting that there are only two kinds of people: the talented and the untalented. There is no contextual nuanced individualism that's necessarily seen in an Fi judgement. Instead, he claims that society as a whole (Fe) runs on an algorithmic underlying principle (Ti), and tells it from his own subjective perspective (Ni): if someone is untalented, they are as useless as garbage. > "For a long time, humans have been taught that if you try hard enough, you can accomplish anything. Even if we weren't told this directly, you'd know it just by looking at the world around us. The internet, TV, and newspapers are overflowing with hopeful messages that say exactly that... But people who can't win...people who don't try to win...people who try their best and still can't win... ...They are all worthless trash." There is no subjectivity in the feeling realm. The judgement would have to be exclusively aimed at himself or another individual. Instead, there is impartial awareness of how society as a collective (Fe) works - based on an infallible algorithm (Ti). Furthermore, when Komaeda looks at the Ultimates, he does not see individual people, nor does he value them as individuals. He values them conceptually, which is common of Ni-Fe: viewing humans impersonally and non-subjectively (Fe/Ti) through the lens of their own personal meaning (Ni) Even if you still wish to argue for Fi, INFJ have 6th Fi. Fi will be more prominent in them than in INTJ. The difference is that they will not value it. They may even loathe it, viewing it as selfish. We can see this consistently in Komaeda, who insists that the Ultimates solve the mysteries, even when he already has everything figured out. He reduces his value as in individual to shine light on the group. However, we occasionally hear his Fi crying for help; he unconsciously wishes to be someone significant. There is no conscious wish because Fi is not conscious for INFJ - Fe is, and it reinforces the belief that his unconscious Fi dream is impossible based on how society works. There is also a hatred of Te in him. He despises the idea that the talentless can ever be anything superior to trash, no matter how hard they try. This is completely contrary to a Te perspective. Te/Fi wishes to assert it's individual will above that of other individuals - to grow stronger than other, in whatever way they are wishing to. Ni-Te wishes for efficient, objectively measurable growth. Komaeda literally does not believe that this is possible, which is what Te blindness typically looks like. Instead of growth, he advocates for Ti principles that remain logically consistent and infallible throughout time and circumstance. His thought process looks like this: "Growth is impossible because it is illogical. No one else can grow, and I can observe this in the real world (Ni/Se), so there is no reason to believe that I, as an individual, am capable of growth (devaluation of Fi/Te)." I also just think that Fe blindness is kind of absurd. Think of Maki, Kirigiri, and Kamukura. What differentiates them from Komaeda? They are expressionless, unable to see any value in objective expressions of feeling - why should they need to prove what they feel inside with expressions? They are blunt and matter-of-fact - uncaring about what others think of them. Komaeda, on the other hand, is quite polite. His brand of "bluntness" is more akin to social awkwardness, which is possible for any introverted type - even IxFJ. It is accidental - a short break from his usual sunny, polite demeanor. He is expressive, aware of social rules, and even worries excessively about what Hinata might think of him, as seen in his "Shot through the Heart" event. I think that the vote change is progress, for sure. There is absolutely no way that Komaeda is an Ne type, o and no one has provided adequate evidence to suggest otherwise. That being said, I think that Fi/Te vs. Fe/Ti has been the real center focus of debates all along, and I think that criticqlal evidence has been dismissed based on the stereotype that Fe types will always do what is selfless. Fe is not selflessness, and Fi is not selfishness. Fe is not dishonesty, and Fi is not honesty. The problem here is that those are behavior-based judgements, when MBTI is a theory about *cognitive* functioning.